Blog Buzz

Dear fellow searchers,

As you mingle amongst the blogs and find anything of interest that you think would be a good topic for discussion, please reply here with a link. I will then add it in the sidebar under “Blog Buzz”.

Thanks.

Mike

832 thoughts on “Blog Buzz

  1. September 19, 2017 at 8:02 pm
    Posted by ‘Valerie’ on MW (I think she’s correct)

    @Pdenver, the Doukopoli interview was an early one, and in my opinion is one of the most helpful in eliminating Montana/Yellowstone. MT is the treasure state but according to Fenn’s statements and logic, it does not hold his box of golden treasures – unless he lied as he says he does 15/85 percent of the time.

    In choosing the location, Fenn himself told me (Tony Doukopuli) Fenn was thinking “10,000 years down the road … I considered mudslides, forest fires, earthquakes, and floods.” And yet he maintains that the treasure is readily accessible to him, even today. “I could go right there.”

    Ask yourself:
    Where is the safest place to conceal a treasure for 10,000 years?
    1. Where is the oldest inhabited Capitol city?
    Answer: Santa Fe, NM
    2. Where is the oldest house standing in the USA:
    Answer: Santa Fe, NM
    3. Where is the oldest Church standing in the USA:
    Answer: San Miguel in Santa Fe, NM
    4. Where is the oldest seat of gov’t. Building:
    Answer: Palace of Governors, Santa Fe, NM
    5. Oldest pueblos still standing?
    New Mexico

    The fact is FF emphatically stated he considered “mudslides, forest fires, earthquakes, and floods” to place the treasure in a SAFE place to withstand the wiles of nature and populations for 10,000 years.

    He has also stated the Yellowstone super volcano would not affect the treasure chest. After carefully and logically considering his logical statements, the safest place that FF could “go right to, even today.” would be near Santa Fe, NM.

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    • ok Anna boom…ill bite.
      asking myself where is the safest place to conceal a treasure for 10,000 years….
      hmmm, another planet? yes thats my first response. or how about deep underground, like a mile. to me anywhere other than these two would be iffy for 10,000 years.

      in regard to your other things…
      1. oldest capitol city?
      2. oldest house?
      3. oldest church?
      4. oldest seat of govt.?
      5. oldest pueblos?

      relatively speaking these things are all new compared to a planet.

      i guess im missing your point.
      never mind.
      sorry.
      in my opinion.
      leave me alone.
      lol

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      • Bob, you asked me “to leave you alone.” And yet, I didn’t knock on your door. You said…”ok Anna, I’ll bite”

        I must be mistaken about this forum. In past years folks have enjoyed discussing ideas about the chase here.

        That said, I’m a big believer in apologizing when someone takes offense. I’m sorry that I bothered you Bob. It won’t ever happen again. I dislike the ‘toothful’ mean looking icon next to my name anyway.

        Take care all.
        Thanks Mike for the past fun.

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  2. bob:
    Luckydog i shall embrace Irma as a lover. mother natures swirling daughter of beauty cleansing the land. bringing new life to a polluted landscape of mans construct. new smells to replace mans stink. never mind the money, shes priceless.

    Bob, I take it you don’t have elderly parents who can’t evacuate due to health living in Florida.

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  3. Mike:
    Sorry. Been busy. Thanks for asking. I escaped to Dallas with my daughters that live there, but as you probably know, Harvey veered off to the east, leaving Corpus Christi with only minor damage. My home had a bunch of tree branches in the yard, and a fence that needs repairing, but otherwise my home is fine. Rockport did not fair as well, and I know a few people that had some major damage.

    Mike – glad to hear you and yours are safe.

    Best to you,
    Anna bloom

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  4. Thank you Bob…..you’re a good man and one of these days we WILL get together. Just returned from Santa Fe. Didn’t see Fenn this time but lots of talk around town about his credibility (or lack of). I’d like to challenge him to a lie detector test but I don’t think he would go for it.

    bob:
    hey Tom, you got me feeling your frustration but I dont know what to say. only thing I can think of is when Forrest said…”lets both consider ourselves winners.”is because you are a winner in that you found the treasure being the great outdoors of New Mexico. and Forrest is a winner because his poem led you to the treasure.

    i know is not much consolation, sorry.

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  5. Eric:
    New to the hunt. But I’ve quickly come to the conclusion the hunt has gotten a little stale. So here are some new possibilities: is HOB a reference to the Brown Scapular? Not the original location, but the new one sited about the time Forrest hid his box – and near a meeting place near, or far.

    Blaze – “belays”

    Mike- is this Eric Ashby the missing guy in Colorado?

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    • THE LOCATION
      Meadow at Goose Lake, Red River New Mexico

      Clue #1, “Begin it where the warm waters halt”. The longest chapter in Forrest’s book was about his experiences in the armed services and Vietnam. Vietnam is surrounded by warm waters, the tears shed at the Vietnam memorial are warm and the word “halt” is a military expression. Would Forrest do all of this without including some reference to Vietnam? I don’t think so.

      Clue #2, “Take it in the canyon down”. The Vietnam memorial sits high atop a hill. Traveling from the memorial down the driveway to Route 64 takes you into the canyon……turn left and head north towards Eagle Nest and Red River.

      Clue #3, “Not far but too far to walk”. From the Vietnam memorial to the location of the next clue (Home of Brown) is 9 miles. “Not far but too far to walk”.

      Clue #4, “Put In below the home of Brown”. Eagle Nest Lake, nine miles from the memorial is stocked with Brown trout. Keep in mind that Forrest is an avid & passionate fisherman. Going from the memorial, head north.

      Clue #5, “From there it’s no place for the meek. Meek is a fossil. Keep in mind that Forrest is an archeologist. No Meek west of Eagle Nest.

      Clue #6 The end is ever drawing nigh” As you are entering the town on Red River there is green sign that says “End” on it. You are at a fork in the road and to your immediate left are the Red River horse stables. You have to make a U turn at the fork and head up the road to the next clue.
      Dictionary Nigh: (of an animal or vehicle) being on the left side:
      to be astride the nigh horse.

      Red River Horse stables on your immediate left.

      Clue #7, “There’ll be no paddle up your creek”. You will be on a rocky, dirt road. Goose Creek runs from top to bottom of mountain as does the trail to Goose Lake. Trip from top to bottom is approximately 1-hr.

      Clue #8, “Just heavy loads and water high”. there are multiple heavy duty electrical power lines crossing the dirt road you turn off to and up to Goose Lake road…..”heavy loads”, power loads. Just after crossing under the power lines you have to drive thru a small pond as you head to the trail and location of the treasure at the top of the mountain, below Goose Lake. Both the pond and Goose Lake are references to “water high”.

      Clue #9, “Look Quickly down your quest to cease” Look down from the parking lot into the meadow, Clue, your effort will be worth the cold” Sure, with little ground cover in the colder months, the meadow, blaze and treasure become identifiable.

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      • PART OF Tom H posting 2014……..

        This may get a little confusing but think with me. If you reference Forrest’s comments about his flight pattern and details when flying in Vietnam, follow this on a map “All you need is a good map” of Vietnam and match it up to a map of New Mexico it all comes together. In Vietnam Forrest took off from an airstrip and flew north. He put in there below the Home Of The Brown Navy, the river boats in Vietnam. He flew north to the 11 o’clock position into Laos……Laos/Taos. Are you with me?

        Taos? Remember Forrest talked in his book about Olga and spreading her ashes over the mountains on Taos. He say’s flittered and later in the book says “there are other clues sprinkled in my book”. Yes…..he sprinkled her ashes over one of the most beautiful places I have ever been…….a huge meadow just south of Gooose Lake in Red River. When Forrest was asked where he would hide a treasure he replied in “The Place Of Peace”. Olga’s resting spot is the place…….the location of the hidden treasure.

        After I was certainI had located the area I used Google Earth to figure out how I would get up there. In doing so I discovered some very interesting things. Remember I said some things had double meanings……Goose Lake is at the base of a beautiful mountain…….ironically name Gold Hill. If you google Earth the photo you will see a picture of a large tree trunk marker at the top of Gold Hill. This was my first blaze alert and I looked “quickly down” into the meadow. Back to the road up there…..I discovered there was a trail…..trail 66. You need a jeep or ATV to get up there. Can check it out on Youtube.
        Back to the blaze…….and here’s my proof. When I zoomed in on the meadow on Google I came upon a photo taken in the meadow. I cannot post this as the photo is copyrighted. You can however find this yourselves. When looking at the photo I thought I saw something and blew the picture up. sure enough there it was…….the treasure chest under a small tree. There is even a bird sitting on top of it. The tree is clearly the blaze……stripped tree bark, white. In total amazement I proceeded to compare the markings on the chest in my blow up photo with other pictures of the chest. Bingo……I was able to positively identify it!!!!!!!!! Regarding the location…….Forrest also said he would hide the treasure in the past and present with a river stepping stone between them. Thats exactly what he did. When you walk from the parking area thru the words and down into the meadow which is well hidden you come upon the small creek filled with stepping stones. The past is the meadow, the present is now……the parking lo and the blaze is right behind that area.

        I hope by now the people that made the negative comments are giving this some serious thought!

        The treasure was sitting on top of a flat white rock, probably taken from the creek. Forrest was smart to position the box on an angle for rain to roll off. The box was masked by growth which Forrest hinted about when he posted pictures of his back yard and discussed whether the growth was flowers or weeds. He said “us gardeners” which leaves me to believed he planted things around the treasure to hide it better. While I’m talking about his postings let’s look at multiple references to tobacco. Yes…….one of the most well know tobaccos is called Red River. His other postings also included clues such as Remuda which is clearly a reference to what the blaze looks like. He talks about it having warm clothing. This relates to the poem……Your efforts will be worth the cold. Note that is would certainly be easier to locate the treasure in cold weather as there would be less growth covering it. The area has very soft ground, marshy and it might be easier to walk around when it is not as soft.

        Back to our search…….We arrived at the site on July 26, 2014. We were looking for the wide open area with the single tree as depicted in the photo. By doing so we completely missed it as there had been quite a bit of growth around this area and it did not look like the spot in the photo. It is a very large area, the altitude was killing us, I had bronchitis and we made the mistake of not identifying other markers in the background on the Google photo. We thought this was going to be a quick find and therefore took a short rental on the jeep. We had to get it back and could not use our cellphones. We left empty handed.

        When I got home I reviewed the video I took coming down into the meadow. It almost dropped dead as there, in the last few frames of the video was the blaze. My brother and I both had other trips planned and could not make it back to the location until my brother did on Saturday 9/20. To our disappointment the treasure was gone and so was the blaze. My first Hope was that it had already been found before we were there on July 26. I would certainly feel better knowing I wasn’t 50 feet in front of it.

        I wouldn’t be sharing these comments and making these statements unless I was sure the treasure was not at this location and the blaze was no longer there. It appears that the person who found the treasure cut off the trunk and may have it hanging over their TV. Or, someone came along later, after the treasure was found and took it. Regardless, The only thing that remains is the flat white rock Forrest laid the treasure on. In the original photo there were two (distinct size) dandelions in front of the rock. I have before and after photos with the same two dandelions……but no tree (blaze) in the later photo…..gone. I also found it interesting that in a scrapbook posted by Forrest following my revelation Forrest was talking about makeng Christmas decorations out of nature objects. Included in his comments were that he enjoyed using things from nature “especially dandelions”

        If you wish to continue your search we wish you the best of luck. We have shared what we have found and know. I will be posting my personal pictures but cannot post the Google photo for reasons previously noted. Go see for yourself and you decide.

        Regards…..Tom & Jim

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        • MORE………

          Why was Forrest talking about and showing tobacco related photos in an earlier scrapbook/Vignettes ?…….Red River Tobacco…..Red River NM.

          Why did Forrest say there were searchers within 500 ft. of the treasure? From the parking area to the location in the meadow is 500 ft. I measured it!

          Why is Forrest showing us pictures of his garden? What’s with the pictures of lavender flowers? Forrest asks….are these flowers or weeds? What’s with the flat white rocks in the picture? What does Forrest mean when he says “us gardeners”. The growth under the blaze in the meadow is clearly different and thicker than the surrounding ground cover. Forrest, the gardener apparently did some planting under the blaze to better cover the target in the warmer months…..”You’re effort will be worth the cold”. Easier to identify the chest in colder weather.

          The Santa Fe conference scheduled for October 2014 was cancelled shortly after I shared our findings with Fenn. Here, Dal is making a statement that as far as he knows the chest has not been found indicating he doesn’t know why the conference was cancelled. He goes on and clearly notes that he does know why. Somewhere on his site he made note around this time indicating that he needed to make a trip out west. From that point on I always felt Fenn called an emergency meeting and that Dal along with Fenn’s grandson Shiloh took a trip and a shovel to Goose Lake in Red River……………..

          “Forrest’s health is fine. As far as I know the chest has not been found but Forrest would know about that long before me. Anyway, that has nothing to do with why we cancelled.
          All is good.
          We just ran up against a roadblock that we couldn’t get around with the conference. As you know, we’ve been working on this for about a month and it looked like all the duckies were properly lined up..
          But something came up today and there is no working around it…so the event had to be cancelled…
          I do not see the possibility that it can be restaged this year so it’s off till next year at the earliest..
          I am not at liberty to discuss what went haywire..
          but it’s nothing to do with Forrest’s health or desire to have fun with us.
          I am truly sorry…I was really looking forward to this”.

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        • EVEN More…….

          My mistake was letting Forrest know where I was searching and my feeling he wasn’t happy about the photo of the treasure I found on Google Earth after figuring out the location. I was sending Forrest e-mails and he was answering all of them almost IMMEDIATELY!

          In one of his last e-mails to me (after years of doing battle) he said “Let’s both consider ourselves winners”

          I should have known not to trust him as he once said he was not giving away any more clues. After meeting with him in Santa Fe….as I left he said to my brother and I “I’ll give you a clue” and did. “Don’t be looking at the sky. Keep your eyes on the ground”. Pretty much what a pilot needs to do while flying a plane.

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          • hey Tom, you got me feeling your frustration but I dont know what to say. only thing I can think of is when Forrest said…”lets both consider ourselves winners.” is because you are a winner in that you found the treasure being the great outdoors of New Mexico. and Forrest is a winner because his poem led you to the treasure.

            i know is not much consolation, sorry.

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  6. I got tired of reading comments on Dal’s blog when searchers there were comparing the deaths of Randy and Paris to those of any hiker or fisherman or kayaker that gets killed doing what he or she loves. I do not agree that the deaths of Randy and Paris are the same thing at all.

    the hikers reward is arriving at the trailhead, getting out of the car and enjoying the great outdoors. then there is the hike itself, exercise, alone time, walking in natural beauty hoping to see and possibly photograph wildlife. the fresh air. so even if the hiker gets mauled to death by a bear, he has died doing what pleases him or her. the hiker goes to their grave doing what they love.

    the fisherman also has his reward arriving at the spot he believes will produce a fish on the end of his line to battle. selecting the proper gear the fisherman, as soon as he steps up to the river to make that first cast, has found the treasure. he doesnt even need to catch one single fish. like the hiker, if attacked and killed by a mountain lion or drowning in the river they will go to the grave doing what they love.

    same for the kayaker or canoeist or motorcyclist or wildlife photographer. whatever the great outdoors inspires you to do.

    and here is the difference in my opinion…the fenn treasure hunt is not inspired by a desire to hike nor fish nor kayak nor canoe nor motorcycle ride nor wildlife photograph. the fenn treasure hunt is inspired by greed.
    the bronze box is a bribe. and while the hiker and all the rest have REAL treasure to be had, Randy and Paris will have died in vain because the bronze box is not in the wilderness to be found. the only reward Randy and Paris could have possibly gained is the bronze box and nothing else.
    time will tell.

    IN MY OPINION!

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    • Ha Ha! I saw some of your comments as Dodo Bird, Bob. LOL! That’s good stuff.

      I should start a new personae…like Dingle Berry. 🙂

      There are so many new Scrapbooks from Forrest at Dal’s. I can hardly keep up…especially since I have a ton of work to do these days.

      The new Scrapbook about Pony Ault and Graciella is very intriguing to me. There is so much there that it’s difficult to grasp it all.

      I’d love to know the “Back Story” of Graciella. Who was She?

      www.lesleyhumphrey.net/lessons-key3-yield/old-betty-war-pony

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    • blog buzz…..scraFFbook 183 features the painting- “the scream” as the last photo. oddly enough compare to my “a fun, safe side trip” thread which also features a yellowstone ground squirrel …..screaming.

      go figure.

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    • hey everybody. im sad.
      i think the mushroom cloud you saw off the coast was dodo bird being nuked by Dal. i tried to bribe Dal with a box of Omaha steaks, but it didnt work. most of my posts didnt even make it on the blog and the ones that did showed up 24 hours after i wrote it. and, the ones that showed up 24 hours later were not noted in the “recent comments” column. so nobody ever saw them. what in the world can a dumb old dodo bird possibly say that could cause such censorship? I dont get it.
      I got real mad and accused Dal of sending my comments to FF for approval. Dal said- “prove it you dumb old dodo bird!” of course i cant prove it, so i gave up. Dal and Forrest can really work an audience. they dont need me. i’ll just keep scratchin and peckin around ….see what i can raise. lol

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      • Hello, Bob.

        Hang in there and don’t be sad. I don’t think Dal’s a big fat meany. He must have his reasons.

        Look on the bright side…and consider the likely possibility…that what you’ve dug up is a bit too close for Dal’s comfort.

        Maybe. Just sayin’…

        I wouldn’t worry about weird things happening at Dal’s. Whatever is going on there will probably come to light one day. I say…probably.

        “There are strange things done in the midnight sun
        By the men who moil for gold;
        The Arctic trails have their secret tales
        That would make your blood run cold…”

        Oh…wait! Wrong story… LOL!

        I meant to say that Karma always has a way of coming back around full circle…

        …even for Big Ol’ Dodo Birds. 🙂

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYTrIcn4rjg

        Hang tight, my Friend…and don’t get your feathers rufflled.

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        • thanks for that video JC. im with you, Dals blog is for the birds. its best if i dont land in the middle on the wire causing all the little chicks to come my way. if Dal allowed me to speak freely, they would just peck me to death anyway. just like the video. mocking and ridicule why, i can get all i need of that right here at home at Mikes blog. thanks again JC my feathers arent ruffled at all. thanks wolf too.

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          • Ha ! I am glad to see you guys still around. I couldn’t post here for the longest time, technical difficulties.

            I like the Omega man idea. It works for me from what I know of Forrest. He just wants to see us all do our best at whatever it is that makes us happy. I love that, don’t you?
            I will try and remember to read here . I have been worrying about our government. Doesn’t look like that will change anytime soon. Argghhh !

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          • Hello, Deb.

            Isn’t Mike Great? I’m happy to see the A-Team reuniting. And it’s also nice of the A-Team to let me hang out. I can only hope to be on the y-team…or maybe z-team.

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD6ghskNKa8

            Regarding some of your other comments, Deb, I got to thinking about Scrapbook 172…The Sound of Bells…over at Dal’s…and Our recent Independence Day Celebration. I also thought about Forrest’s clarion call to “Sound the Bell Loudly”.

            So…I went looking for a video of The Liberty Bell ringing…because I don’t think that I’ve ever heard it in real life…especially not in person.

            Then I got distracted by this…

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=L83XAgsl_Gg

            …which is certainly not The Liberty Bell. I just thought it was cool…and probably cold to the touch.

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  7. Well ol VGBoss is back in town…..over to Dals blog today. guess he will make over to mikes soon….probably be trouble in town tonight once him an woody bogg an chris yates hook up. they always up to no good. specially on saturday night. i wonder where hes been holed up lately. using words like “methinks” ha! been readin shakespeare or somethin i dont know. im just gonna ignore him til he goes away again. rest of you is on your own.

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    • Thanks for the info, Bob.

      I haven’t heard from VGBoss in a long time. I’ll have to mosey on over and see what’s been goin’ on all this time…I reckon. I mean…methinks. 🙂

      Maybe he’ll be like Stan Lee and make a cameo appearance here like you said.

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  8. wow! scrapbook 173 has it all….indians, cowboys, art, guns. everything at the buffalo Bill Center of the West. ole FF even talks a bout a buddy name o bill. imagine that.

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  9. Hello, All.

    Even though the banter is a little slow here…(or maybe it’s just me) 🙂 …there are still some eyebrow-raising topics happening on other sites.

    Like this one…for example…

    mysteriouswritings.proboards.com/thread/315/omega-man

    Which made me think of this…

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzahJRRCmPw

    www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/police/omegaman.html

    And I totally agree with jl’s comment… Forrest “should do an old spice commercial”.

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    • I just listened to that song all the way through. It’s been years!

      Sting sings over and over…”I’m so tired of the Omegaman”. LOL!

      Which is certainly not the message I would send…if Forrest is, in fact, the Omega man. 🙂

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    • Good Morning A team, Everyone enjoying spring weather? I’ve been absent a while working on other projects. Good to see you JC1117 – followed you to chase chat to engage my brain on Omega man comments. Here’s my two cents…

      Forrest is a complicated individual with more complexity and brain power than I’ll ever understand as a TTOTC participant. It would be fun to hear what Peggy and his daughters think of this conversation.

      Omega – yes. reasoning: Forrest built a successful gallery partially on promoting deceased great western artists, but moreover Forrest thrives on assisting others with achieving their dreams. Cases in point – Glenna Goodacre, Wolf Pogzeba, and of course Eric Sloane.
      “Seventeen Dollars” and FF’s memoirs pay tribute to the people Forrest loves and also those who have influenced him.

      Alpha – yes, but only when needed or called upon.

      With twin genetics running thru ffs maternal family, who knows…mayhap he inherited two peoples DNA. After 4 years of doing my best to study Forrest and follow the Chase, nothing would surprise me.

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      • Arthur Teems on March 14, 2017 at 12:21 pm said:
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        I have solved FF poem and I did it in one day! My name is Arthur Teems and I live in Florida. So I am a long way from the Rockies. I am going to lead you right to the treasure. Begin it where warm waters halt. That took about 5 seconds for me. The deepest warm water well above Santa Fe is Pagosa Springs witch goes into the san juan river. The river halts at the El vado Dam in New Mexico hwy 84 and 112 not far from there but too far to walk is Coopers El Vado Ranch. Google there web site and then click on record trout . Now you know where the home of brown is. The put in spot is just below Coopers El Vado Ranch witch is also the home of Brown. I found the same wording in the old BLM land maps for the Rio Chama. They have put a new one on the web site now but it said the put in is just below Coopers. From there it is no place for the meek. That is because it is a class 2 or 3 rapid. the end is ever drawing nigh There’ll be no paddle up your creek just heavy loads of water high. This is where the Rio Chama meets the Nutrias river. I could imagine both of those rivers at full stream back in the day when F.F. was a fishing guide on the river. heavy loads! Now the best part where the treasure is> If you look on the BLM land for the Rio Chama on the web. Then look up maps it has a Legend Look at the Legend and look for Trail The Trail is the Blaze and it leads just south of the Nutrias river to a no camping zone. I f you go back to the legend you will see where you can camp private and public lands in pink. The trail is a single dotted line. Know I have never been to this site I know I told you all that I found it and I believe I have. At this site there is a parking lot and at the north end of the parking lot I think the Trail might go across water. The trail leads back towards the Nutrias river. If you have been wise and Found the blaze look quickly down your quest to cease. So here me all and listen good. Your effort will be worth the cold. If you are brave and in the wood I give you title to the gold! So I have tried to get there twice on the road that F.F. took the 303 off 84 , You would need a 4 wheel drive. Back to the gold. It will be worth the cold if you are brave and in the wood! I think it is in the tree roots in the water or you have to swim through the tree roots like I said I have never been there but I did get a live satellite feed the first day I was looking and I believe there could be a small cove here. Anyway take a wet suit and maybe a rebreather or an airplane oxygen tank a mask and a bright flash light or two. I don’t know how deep it is or how far under the land you my have to go. Remember F.F. was a fighter Pilot He could hold his breath for a long time. At 80 years old. Hope you guys find the gold and if you do I need a new Truck and a plane about 70 grand total Arthur Teems 12274 Crusader pl. Port Saint Lucie Florida 34987 Good Luck I was going to give it to the Smithsonian!

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        Arthur Teems
        on March 14, 2017 at 1:01 pm said:
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        The River starts flowing may 1 better get there before that! The water will be all muddy!

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        I have solved FF poem and I did it in one day! My name is Arthur Teems and I live in Florida. So I am a long way from the Rockies. I am going to lead you right to the treasure. Begin it where warm waters halt. That took about 5 seconds for me. The deepest

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  10. New to the hunt. But I’ve quickly come to the conclusion the hunt has gotten a little stale. So here are some new possibilities: is HOB a reference to the Brown Scapular? Not the original location, but the new one sited about the time Forrest hid his box – and near a meeting place near, or far.

    Blaze – “belays”

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  11. Well, after a brief devised conversation with Forrest tonight, I got to thinking. I went to Dals site scrapbook 166 and read the 20 minute alter comment “Twenty minutes later, we were driving home” First off that isn’t a photo of San Lazaro. I will explain later. Second it is 20 minutes latitude from San Lazaro to a spot in Santa Fe.

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  12. Forrest Fenn mentions of Eric Sloane……But he was a dichotomy.

    Funny, I thought I posted this on TTOTC but I had a window open on Dals site and made a post. I thought I was banned.

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    • I started the chase on March 28th 2013. I first discovered the treasure on June 11th 2014. It has been so fun, I cant wait to give it to this place where I now play. Last week I put the fist clue on the wall. This place was saved for another historically event and I prayed that it will happen. Now picture that.

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  13. The Wolf:
    Hi Lia,
    Actually I don’t think many know of Florence, but allow me to explain the anomaly. The strange Unabomber (Brett spelled it “unibomer”) reference is definitely a hint imo. Ted K. is in a max security prison in Florence, CO. Then a day later FF posts the Gucci/Walmart warning. Gucci was created in 1921 and is headquartered in Italy, Florence Italy. Remember that strange Q&A from Italy, where FF says he loves the Italian people?

    Then there is SB107 where he mentions Walmart again, but that envelope has the address covered by a pen. What does the address say? 1921 Florence. Now that is just a little too much of a coincidence.

    So what is the scoop with Florence? It means to Flower, FF has asked what colour is the daffodil before? Is this the flower or is Florence something else?

    Hi Wolf –

    We have somewhat differing opinions on what Florence means – let’s see if I can explain mine.

    Frank Lloyd Wright at one time, lived very close to FLORENCE – and ya all know he was a great architect. Alice Walton (Walmart heiress) built her museum and called it CRYSTAL Bridges. (remember the Crystal Radio). Alice purchased a FLW house and moved it to her museum. Now her father, Sam drove a Red FORD pickup truck for a long time and refused to buy a new one. After all, he said, the old one runs just fine. (Ford truck in SB) Now you may be saying so what – OK one more thing that I have never told before. When you get to the right spot – and do some research on the people who live there – The Kids live in a special house – Oh yes, a Frank Lloyd Wright House. One of the Kids got married on a special date – (this is why the photo on the most important chapter in the book MWFM – has a wedding photo) What is that special date – The 4th of July ! OK now you really do remember all those 4th of July Stamps….(SB)……right ! All of these things tie together and make perfect sense to me. You are going to HAVE to use FLW and Alice Walton in your final solve. And you do that with the stamps. Oh and there is a number that refers to a member of this family and it is found in TFTW in one place. It is a most special number and will absolutely blow you away if you find it.

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    • JC1117 & Wolf – Hope you are both doing well; glad to see your familiar smiling voices here. Sting song was new to me. Great song.

      Wolf, I’m not the sharpest tool in the fennian shed. Would you kindly help me understand who Florence is or what is significant? Thanks friends.

      Also grateful for the new posts from forrest at hod and MW. He’s a generous man to continue putting such thought into fresh, new material for our enjoyment & mental exercise.

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      • Hi Lia,
        Actually I don’t think many know of Florence, but allow me to explain the anomaly. The strange Unabomber (Brett spelled it “unibomer”) reference is definitely a hint imo. Ted K. is in a max security prison in Florence, CO. Then a day later FF posts the Gucci/Walmart warning. Gucci was created in 1921 and is headquartered in Italy, Florence Italy. Remember that strange Q&A from Italy, where FF says he loves the Italian people?

        Then there is SB107 where he mentions Walmart again, but that envelope has the address covered by a pen. What does the address say? 1921 Florence. Now that is just a little too much of a coincidence.

        So what is the scoop with Florence? It means to Flower, FF has asked what colour is the daffodil before? Is this the flower or is Florence something else?

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        • Wow, Wolf.

          Those are some strange coincidences. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have made all those connections.

          To be honest…I didn’t even have my Sherlock Holmes magnifying glass on the word “Florence”…let alone my Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Ring.

          Seeing as how the headquarters of Gucci are in Florence, Italy then it has to mean something.

          Maybe Forrest is directing folks’ attention to the word “Italy”.

          Forrest clearly wants us to decipher what “It” is in the poem…and “why?”…and we won’t be successful unless we understand the “why” of “all” of “It”.

          Italy = It al y = It all why.

          Doesn’t help ME much. I’m about as good at geography as this guy… :/

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDqXZsAypHA

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          • Wolf & JC 1117 I forgot to mention Florence’s fleur de lis and Walmart’s fully bloomed flower* logo; perhaps w&m art on the wall could be significant.

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          • And when that guy was asked how you spell stupid individual he replied by spelling his name:
            I-D-O-T.
            What do you say we give him the missing I ?

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        • Thanks Wolf, Very kind of you to help me understand possible associations.

          Still not ringing an exact bell with me. Here are a couple thoughts..Guccis famous signet is 2 interlocking G’s; Florence Italy’s coat of arms is a Fleur de lis; Florence is the birthplace of the Renaissance, Opera, tenors, cinema, home to greatest museums, famous artists, architects, composers, poets.
          How Walmart is connected to 1921 Florence…hold your breath…wait for it…here it is!!
          www.walmart.com/ip/A-Wanderer-in-Florence-1921-The-Ponte-Vecchio-Poster-Print-by-Harry-Morley/165741697

          LOL! I got nothing;-)

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        • JC1117, if “it al y” then
          Shall we conclude we must include Latin version of “y” which is “E” into the equation? Or “why = perché” or Spanish porquet?

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        • Wolf, I forgot two possible Florence connections:
          Patron St John the Babtist whose Saint day is 6-24. Florence has twin city – Bethlehem which imo has hod/hob implications.

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  14. The Wolf:
    It appears a few searchers have been aware of this technique, but are now spilling the beans since FF let us all in on it. But why would he do that and expose the work of the few who had known?They must be unhappy.

    I have a theory, dating back to stern and “Information please” but can’t prove it yet

    Thanks Woff,

    Though I’m not banned on CC. Admin will not let me respond to comments. So I will respond here.

    You are right in your theory.

    Thanks for the compliment.

    Mindy is not correct in her response back. There is no Midas, and there is no Woman with a child.

    There is a crying woman somewhere else,, not on the dust jacket.

    Your are right about the “Information Please” scrapbook.

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  15. im a little worried after reading a couple of murmurings at Dal’s blog. i see mention of the Boy Scouts. now who would be dumb enough to take the thrill of the chase to a bunch of red neckerchief wearing kids? out tromping around in the woods, working on “merit” badges. if one of those rug rats stumbled on to the bronze box its over. they should concentrate on making bird houses and helping little old ladies cross the street.

    i think

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        • Hello, All.

          A photo would be “nice”…I reckon…unless it’s like so many of the bigfoot-esque, blurry, goulash of pixelations I commonly see attributed to “the exact spot”.

          I would like to see some video…with some decent definition…if you can actually afford a decent smartphone.
          Don’t expect any from me anytime soon…especially showing an exact spot.

          And my apologies to Tesuque…if he momentarily thought I was mocking him with my “bigfoot-esque” description. Sorry, Tesuque.

          I should have written “bigfoot-ish” or “bigfoot-like”…but…Alas! It was too late.

          “The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
          Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
          Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.”
          ? Omar Khayyám

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          • Gee JC1117 – mayhap Omar Knows “Nor”. I think she must have gone back to reality in the non-chase world.

            Just stopped by ttotc to say hello. How is your family? Praying all is well with you and yours. Glad to see a few old timers still around.

            Take care.

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        • Hi Lia! im not an old timer. say, did you hear Art found the bronze box? yes…right where FF said it would be. isnt that something? we havent told Art that he is supposed to find the chest though, i dont want to upset him. and i dont even want to discuss the treasure. soooo confusing.
          bye Lia!

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          • Bob –

            They seem to be coming out of the woodwork………this is from Facebook……..

            .?Meghan Belaski? to Michael Moore
            November 14 at 10:06am
            Team Michael Moore…I sent a message yesterday about contacting Mr. Moore’s publicist, agent, legal team etc., in order to leave a message with each about how Mr. Michael Moore could contact me regarding the Forrest Fenn treasure I’ve found. I tried most of those numbers and they were super sketch.

            I didn’t leave any messages, so now I’m contacting you all through Facebook again doing precisely what I said I would not do by asking someone from your team to please contact me in a private message on Facebook through my personal FB account under Meghan Belaski, even if you have to “friend” me, or by email at:
            meghan.belaski@gmail.com

            I assume this will not be posted, but if it is, whatever. I’m not afraid of not checking my email if it gets overwhelmed by my Forrest Fenn freaks. I barely check it now anyway. I do have a portion of the Forrest Fenn treasure, the other part has been with the feds for over a year now, and I have yet to inform Mr. Fenn of my total findings at this time. Just some of them.

            I thought I would have more time to formulate a way to slowly release this treasure and shocking information to the public, especially because I thought I would have a Hillary in the oval office, and this would go a lot smoother for everyone involved, but that is clearly not the case, and quite frankly, this is what was meant to happen. Just like this. Because this is when it counts and will actually mean something to people and will shock the world awake.

            Without a doubt, I need Michael Moore to help me disseminate this information quickly and succinctly to only the Faithless Electors before December 19, 2016, in order to change the Electoral College outcome when the final votes are cast on December 19, 2016. After December 19, 2016, we can tell the public and media what it is that I found no matter what the Faithless Electors decide. I promise you what I have, and what I know, will change everything. Please contact me as soon as possible and I will share with Mr. Moore and his legal team only for the time being, what I have in hand, and what I am willing to put on the line to change the course of the future for us all.

            Thank you!

            -Meghan Belaski

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          • Interesting intel, Inthechaseto.

            Meghan has some interesting ideas. Enough to make a person say, “Hmmm”.

            She wrote, “…quite frankly, this is what was meant to happen. Just like this. Because this is when it counts and will actually mean something to people and will shock the world awake.”

            It is as if she thinks Someone is ultimately in control of how things turn out. I would assume she’s talking about the Big Picture without overriding individual (man’s) free will.

            www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+10%3A15&version=KJV

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          • Thanks for your response JC.

            I went to her FB page and she seems to be a nice person… She says she has half of the treasure and the Feds have the other half.
            This makes no sense whatsoever to me. I do think she is another one to think her solve is so correct – that she went off the deep end.

            As you probably know – my solve has a beginning – a middle and an end. Not once in anything I found – did it lead me to anything from the bible. It does however, lead me to FF’s grave. In the end he tells you about it and it is funny.

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          • inthechaseto- im sure there is nothing Meghan can do to shock me. lol

            i didnt vote this election because i didnt like any of the “presidential” candidates. over the years ive figured out that there are forces that guide our lives we have no control over. the president of the US is not one of them.
            sorry meghan.

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    • I stopped trying to figure out who it’s about. Everyone thinks he is talking to them, then they project it across the internet. When in doubt don’t blurt it out ? No, keep it under your hat and don’t let your head explode . LOL

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    • Well she just posted about the photoshopped arms in the school pic of TTOTC. Are we to believe it is a coincidence that both Bonnie and Mindy happen to come up with these very interesting discoveries?

      Take a look, a real good look at that pic. Then there is the cover shot of FF hand in pocket. The length of hand in pocket is not proportional. I didn’t realize FF had a three inch extension on his left hand. 😉

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      • ok crickets, how about all those “L”s on the t-shirts of the school kids? In the same photos, those photoshopped arms make a “Y” (Mindy says “V”). Bonnie says she knows the L=Y.

        Coincidence, too much imagination? Some will think or should I say hope so. I find it too much of a coincidence. No one has ever talked about the pictures (drawings yes) like Mindy, now Bonnie shows up.

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        • Wolf- i have mentioned the altered photos in regards to the feet of individuals. nothing else matters to me as far as photos go. photos are an integral part of a scrapbook, this is the reason for the scrapbooks at Dal’s blog. to raise photo awareness. just take (a photo) the chest and go in peace!

          i think

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          • It appears a few searchers have been aware of this technique, but are now spilling the beans since FF let us all in on it. But why would he do that and expose the work of the few who had known? They must be unhappy.

            I have a theory, dating back to stern and “Information please” but can’t prove it yet

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  16. Mindy brought up an interesting theory where apostrophes in the poem are replaced by the real letters and then used to form “Hawaii ha” or Hawaii ah”

    This happen to intersect with something I have worked on for over a year and it brought it a little close. I talk about it on my latest blog post:
    tinyurl.com/hx6bqla
    I decided to go deep – real deep with this one, to area that I find fascinating.

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  17. blog buzzes! scrapbook 159….forrest says quote- “I love your story Kristen. Once again I am reminded of why I wrote the book and hid the treasure. f ”

    and then we get a nice search story from Kristen with photos…indeed she did take (photos) the chest (the great outdoors) and go in peace. thanks Kristen for sharing your adventure. and reminding Forrest that this was his goal. who needs a bronze box with these kinds of riches laying around waiting to be discovered? next stop Alaska!

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  18. To all of our Florida and east coast Searcher Friends……..

    I wish you well in the upcoming storm……….may you all
    be safe. You will be in my prayers thru this difficult time.

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  19. blog buzz! i just saw at Dal’s blog that Jonesy was the winner of the latest “contest” yes contest in quotes, i dont call them contests….isn’t finding the bronze box contest enough? or have the lightweights at Dals thrown in the towel and are content with the other silly little “contests”.

    can someone explain to me how Jonesy won? i dont understand. now Ken, i do understand the inner chipmunk thing yeah, thats cute. but hey theres lots of things i dont understand. comes from being dumb i guess. ive learned to get by though. for instance…..i recently made application to the state of Florida to be classified as homeless. they denied my application. just what in the hell am i going to do now if i cant be homeless? move to Mars?

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  20. IB1:
    Evidence, historical image 2012 on GE shows offset stone alignment. I’ll post a video and show that and where the other clues are or were.

    Stephen Jack
    AKA IB1

    I found the Tresor de Panacée
    journal-la-mee.fr/2131-conseil-general-le-tresor-de.html

    Who is bob?

    Tom H said
    “Following what I believe (what I believe) Fenn (more likely his grandson and or Dal) did take back the chest. ”

    Why Grandson?

    ‘allo IB1, chief inspector Clouseau here……the evidence you provibe dates to 1841ad…heh heh heh. this cannot ‘ave any bearing whatsoever on Fowwist Femm. the treasurre Pannece’. of course this is an attemp by yourselve to mis direct.

    now, as to your question….who is Bob? i can say this….in a nutshell, he es a nut. what else could possibly be found within a nutshell eh? addition, in my expert opinion ‘e is living the proof that imagination is indeed more important that knowledge. time will tell my freind, time will tell….au revoir.

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    • You did not read the correction, Panancée II
      date 2 November 2002. Relevance, I”d like to say more specifically about methodology.

      I just went over to Fenn’s site to check something,
      www.oldsantafetradingco.com/
      I’m sure he referred to WE when saying the chest was still there. Everything regarding the Poem has gone as well as the chest. Do you doubt my solution?

      I think some one owes my a chest of gold, I do not believe the person or persons that have the chest solved the poem.

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      • Bob my subconscious says I missed something.

        What type of nut are you?

        Just an after thought, Panacée II was an interesting experience, as I declared the treasure and took a massive financial hit. I would have preferred to have kept the treasure and catalogued the coins, but all that now remains of Panacée I is 10 coins the exact location of which is not known. What do you do with a load of coins?
        As soon as they are scattered they loose part of any meaning they have.

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      • PROBLEM:
        Poem + Map = Bronze Breasted Beauty.

        SOLUTION 1:
        If you didn’t find the chest you didn’t solve the poem.

        SOLUTION 2:
        Whoever found the chest solved the poem.

        ANSWER:
        No one owes you anything. Ergo, you get Omega x Omega. AKA ZERO ..

        Brad

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  21. bob:
    IB1 the only way that no one will never stumble on to the bronze box in the wilderness is that it (the bronze box) was NEVER THERE TO BEGIN WITH!sorry for shouting but im convinced of this.

    Have to disagree, too much evidence points to it being there.

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    • Cheif Inspector Clouseau- ” allo IB1, chief inspector Clouseau here….obviously you are using a code name…IB1….so with all due respect I must insist you turn over this evidence of which you speak IMMEDIATELY! also, are you…Scotland Yard? or perhaps KGB! yes? mmmmm INTERPOL? no? ahhhhhh…MSS! you cannot be DGSE for you are not found in my rolodex. I will remind you at this time that H.R. 5710 Homeland Security Information Sharing Act requires you to pass along any and all evidence you may ‘ave in your possesion to all other law enforcement agencies which I , chief inspector Clouseau am in fact a representative of said agency. good day sir yes.”

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  22. Tom H:
    The more Fenn stresses the point “it is there” only raises doubt……IMO

    Tom- here are the “IT’s” and their locations…..

    poem chest- draper museum
    treasure chest- national parks
    treasure- his special place for burial
    chest- the bronze box or, the chest at the draper museum (depends on context of statements)
    bronze box- the Fenn home vault

    so he is in fact being truthful whenever he says “it’s still there”

    i think

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  23. IB1:
    There is a large hole in Fenn”s master plan, it relies on the finder informing him that they have the chest.Having thought about the ground clues I found, I think the tin can from the fire may have been placed at the same time as all the other ground clues, mainly due to the fact the label on the can had completely decayed. This leads me to two points, has Fenn ever been back, and if he has did he remove the chest?I do believe the chest was place where the ground clues point but the fact that they were not disturbed is a big loose end. Some one may have stumbled right on the chest but if they re-orientated themselves from the Owl like I did the first point they would come to would be the camp fire by the large pine tree.

    If Fenn does not change his statement from the chest is there to probably found then a conclusion that he took back the chest becomes more likely.
    Why would he do this?
    To make a legend?

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    • Following what I believe (what I believe) Fenn (more likely his grandson and or Dal) did take back the chest. Why would he do that? …….one of two things…..he knew it was going to be discovered soon and didn’t want that to happen or he felt the GE photo I discovered (after I determined the location) was unfair in the game. People can believe whatever they want. I respect that. Just explain to me how the tree (what I believe was the blaze) was in the GE photo with the chest underneath it and now both are gone.

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    • Following what I believe (what I believe) Fenn (more likely his grandson and or Dal) did take back the chest. Why would he do that? …….one of two things…..he knew it was going to be discovered soon and didn’t want that to happen or he felt the GE photo I discovered (after I determined the location) was unfair in the game. People can believe whatever they want. I respect that. Just explain to me how the tree (what I believe was the blaze) was in the GE photo with the chest underneath it and now both are gone.

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      • Tom- i think the bronze box was never there. someone manipulated the GE you see to make it appear as though it was there. just like the photoshopping that goes on at Dal’s blog, and the touched up or covered up photos in the book TTOTC. buy why, is still the big question.

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    • IB1 the only way that no one will never stumble on to the bronze box in the wilderness is that it (the bronze box) was NEVER THERE TO BEGIN WITH! sorry for shouting but im convinced of this.

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  24. blog buzz!!! scrapbook 158….
    just before the comments begin on this scrapbook, there is a link to see the other items in the bronze box. I clicked on the link and found items listed in groups. among them is “Golden Frogs”. there are two frogs shown, both photos have been photoshopped and there is some discussion by searchers as to the reason for the touch-up. they talk about the frogs “arms” or “legs” being covered up but nobody says anything about feet. many photos in TTOTC are done in this way….altering the feet or completely removing them. because the blaze is feet.

    i think

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  25. JC1117:
    Great question, IB1.

    I can’t recall Forrest, himself, ever saying that the chest is gone from the correct place.I have heard a lot of bloggers suggest it.

    However, I HAVE heard Forrest say that it IS there and we should believe him.

    Furthermore, he asks all those who doubt him, “What more can I SAY to you that would make you believe me?”Then he’ll offer to take you there in person…but if you’ve heard him make that offer then you know how THAT will end. LOL!

    So, for now, we have to take him at his word…which I do.After all, this is his Show…and he’s the Top Brass.That’s all the proof we got…until somebody finds that treasure.Then maybe others will have something to say.

    ok JC 1117- you know ah luv ya but listen….you use the word chest in your first sentence and the word treasure in you last paragraph. so, which is it? chest or treasure? these words have several meanings. are we to assume we know which meaning you intend by implication? huge mistake, and that is the mistake all searchers are making.

    i think

    (just need to get this off my chest JC, not slamming you because you are my treasure.) lol

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  26. JC1117:
    Interesting solve, IB1.Thank you for sharing it.

    I like your use of an Owl as your interpretation for “If you’ve been wise”.Very clever…and out of the box.

    While watching your video on YouTube I did a search for an Owl that’s IN the box…and wishes to get out of it.His name is Hedwig.@1:17

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AgJnlt_gAM

    Of course, Owls are everywhere in those books/movies…for example, at the top of the page @ 1:01.I noticed that a few moments ago because my 4-year-old daughter wanted to watch it.In fact, she’s watching it right now.She asked to watch the first movie last night.

    I have a question for you, how does one prove the chest has gone and this is the correct place?
    For example will Fenn every admit the fact?

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    • Great question, IB1.

      I can’t recall Forrest, himself, ever saying that the chest is gone from the correct place. I have heard a lot of bloggers suggest it.

      However, I HAVE heard Forrest say that it IS there and we should believe him.

      Furthermore, he asks all those who doubt him, “What more can I SAY to you that would make you believe me?” Then he’ll offer to take you there in person…but if you’ve heard him make that offer then you know how THAT will end. LOL!

      So, for now, we have to take him at his word…which I do. After all, this is his Show…and he’s the Top Brass. That’s all the proof we got…until somebody finds that treasure. Then maybe others will have something to say.

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        • There is a large hole in Fenn”s master plan, it relies on the finder informing him that they have the chest. Having thought about the ground clues I found, I think the tin can from the fire may have been placed at the same time as all the other ground clues, mainly due to the fact the label on the can had completely decayed. This leads me to two points, has Fenn ever been back, and if he has did he remove the chest? I do believe the chest was place where the ground clues point but the fact that they were not disturbed is a big loose end. Some one may have stumbled right on the chest but if they re-orientated themselves from the Owl like I did the first point they would come to would be the camp fire by the large pine tree.

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  27. from scrapbook 158 at dals-

    Forrest finds an older photo of the bronze box on an old laptop and states….”it shows the treasure chest” notice he uses the phrase treasure chest. and the last sentence states – “Now the treasure is hidden in the mountains, patiently waiting….f” i can reword this reveal the true meaning…..”Now my special place is hidden in the mountains, patiently waiting for you to find it….f”

    this treasure is not the treasure chest.

    i think

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    • this from Dal’s blog on the homepage…..

      “More Caution! Forrest himself is a master of the double entendre. He chooses his words very deliberately. More than once I have run off suffering from the belief that I had brilliant new information about where the gold is hidden… In fact, I did not pay close enough attention to the precision of his words. He specializes in letting you believe something he never said. (I told you he is clever)”

      end of dals comment.

      this is what im talking about from scrapbook 158.
      In the line…”Now the treasure is hidden in the mountains patiently waiting…f” there should be a comma after the first word “Now”. and then the line looks like this….”Now, the treasure is hidden in the mountains patiently waiting….f

      see the difference? with a comma after “Now” there is a hesitation in the reading. a shifting of gears. it should be read with the hesitation and an emphasis on treasure. so it looks like this… “Now, (hesitate) the TREASURE (talking about something else here) is hidden in the mountains patiently waiting…f”

      this is how I apply Dal’s warning of caution.

      i think

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  28. I hope this will be posted as I have had some difficulty on some sites

    This is the solution to the Poem. I can say that with certainty because

    1. The solution fits with all clues and information given out by Fenn.

    2. I found the ground clues

    a. 2 stone alignment of park boundary.
    b. 2 stone offset stone alignements.
    c 2 burnt pieces of wood point to a convergence.
    d. 2 Rope burnt wood alignment.
    e. Can in hidden camp fire.

    The chest was hidden at approximately 5000ft next to a animal track just inside a park boundary over looking the Madison River. Fenn said you would know when the poem was solved, the blaze makes it very obvious but some people just can not see what is before them. The hard part for people to grasp is that the treasure is not there, and proving a negative is very difficult. I have the feeling some people enjoy the grave train they are on and will try and suppress anything that will upset it. However there are some things I do not have answers for, the ground clues were there along time, 5 years for the ropes with out a doubt, but they were not disturbed in any way. I know some one had been there but how come they left the clues completely untouched?

    The Solution

    Begin it where warm waters halt – Kitchen Sink Rapids.
    And take it in the canyon down – located in a canyon.
    Not far, but too far to walk – Some distance to…
    Put in below the home of Brown – the Brown green house, shed and home.

    From there it’s no place for the meek – tough going be careful of the bears.
    There’ll be no paddle up your creek – need to go up a dry creek.
    Just heavy loads and water high – hydro electric

    If you’ve been wise and found the blaze – Wise Owl
    Look quickly down, your quest to cease – direction of search
    But tarry scant with marvel gaze – If you fully understand this then you are certainly in the right place. 200x100m ancient face of Owl looking up.

    10 clues!

    My interpretation of ‘tarry scant with marvel gaze’ is this is the true motivation for this poem. Fenn had an uneasy relationship with the heritage establishment, this is him pointing out their neglect of what is a true triple ‘A’ historic site and as I say in the video not a ‘B’ lister of the last 200 years which has not stood the test of time.

    I’m loading a new version of the search video with boosted sound. this is the old version the new one should be up later today

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ynp3kQSHc

    IB1

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    • Interesting solve, IB1. Thank you for sharing it.

      I like your use of an Owl as your interpretation for “If you’ve been wise”. Very clever…and out of the box.

      While watching your video on YouTube I did a search for an Owl that’s IN the box…and wishes to get out of it. His name is Hedwig. @1:17

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AgJnlt_gAM

      Of course, Owls are everywhere in those books/movies…for example, at the top of the page @ 1:01. I noticed that a few moments ago because my 4-year-old daughter wanted to watch it. In fact, she’s watching it right now. She asked to watch the first movie last night.

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  29. Hello everyone, I am very excited to announce that my 5 year old niece Leighton will be running with her school in the annual Terry Fox run tomorrow 18 Sept, to raise awareness for cancer research.

    Anyone who donates to cancer research or to her run page will receive a free book Finding Forrest Fenn.

    Read about Leighton and Terry Fox here bit.ly/2cuOwjd or visit www.findingfenn.com/single-post/2016/09/17/Run-Terry-Run

    Please give generously and make a difference. Run Leighton Run!

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  30. Did you see the flash of of the headliner of this very web site – on The Today Show this morning as they were discussing Forrest Fenn. They know which web sites are important !

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    • Hello everyone! I saw the ttotc site flash also.
      I’m still out here keeping up with any updates, but just don’t comment like I used to. Had to step back. I’ll get back out there to search again one of these days.
      Take care everyone. 🙂

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    • inthechaseto- yes, i saw it too…made me shudder. i’m not the celebrity type i prefer to remain in the background. we have to find a new place to hide now. looked like the header from mikes blog, and old santa fe trading, forrests site along with one other i couldnt make out, i was focused on mikes blogs header as it floated by like in a dream. i dont think they (nbc) know this website is important though.
      did you hear forrest slip up? he said why not let peolple come “look at it” for 500 years after i’m gone…and then corrected himself with “look for it”. he said “look at it” like in a museum.

      also the reporter (Janet Shamilan) asked forrest about being in his will as an inheritance, and forrest replied no there is nothing in his will about the whereabouts of the treasure.

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  31. blog buzz! Dal posted today that he went to the Buffalo Bill Center of the West! where, he says Forrest went alone in there and with donated treasures bold. hmmm. i dont trust Dal. I would have to see it for myself. Im not even sure it was Dal who made the post because there is no mention of the cafeteria! also he makes no mention of the Draper Museum of Natural History. very strange indeed. Next he’s going to the dinosaur museum at Thermopolis. take the chest and leave the bones please Dal.

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  32. bolg buzz!!! someone at Dal’s posted a link to another article about the disappearance of Randy B. this one deals with using computer algorithims to locate missing people. its complicated i wont enlighten you here today about the details. but, if you read the article check out the next to last paragraph where the writer states…”4,000 people go missing in the US every day.” Oh My God! i did the math and this means every one in the US will be missing or dead in 230 years! HELP!!!!

    the math:
    325,000,000 (us population today) divided by 4,000= 81,250 days divided by 352 (days in a year) = 230 years.

    if everyone is missing who will look for us?
    is this FF’s diabolical plan to keep his treasure hidden for 1,00 years?
    stay tuned.

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  33. Things are getting weird on The Chase lately. Yesterday my IP address was “blacklisted” over at Chase Chat.

    Good thing, too…I reckon. Their intell must be dug in real deep.

    I was moments away from uploading a virus into the mother ship…

    …which would bring many to their feet…

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGdoqBxqZuw

    …dancing.

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  34. this whole “clues did not exist when he (FF) was a kid” discussion is driving me nuts! if only I could post at Dal’s blog….sigh

    FF is talking about the Buffalo Bill Center of the West.
    the building you visit today did not exist in its present form when he was a kid.

    good god people, its so easy.

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    • Hey Bob…..

      They’re intellectuals ya know. They don’t understand a red neck with 12 kids and a red pickup truck. I really like what Wolf said………it’s Seekers school.

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  35. Forrest Fenn says:
    August 31, 2016 at 10:41 am
    Please don’t count me out yet. I’m just easing back a bit and walking much more than sitting. It was a needed change and the effects are already being felt. Tesuque dug a mushroom and ate it without knowing the rules. The resulting seizure lasted a few hours, but now she’s back to chasing chipmunks again. Hopefully she learned from the experience. f

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  36. Blog Buzz! blog buzz!
    they say Forrest is taking a break. well i guess if you dont know how to relax at age 86 you probably wont ever figure out how to. relax that is. so now we will just see how many aliases he was using. just watch Dals and see who disappears. ha!

    hey FORREST! dont croak on us you old frog.

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  37. So does anyone own this blog anymore ? I was under the impression that Mike was looking to close it down . Did Forrest pay Mike to keep it up? If so it could become what it once was , a great place for people to talk about the chase.

    I understand Mike doesn’t believe in the chase , that he thinks there is no treasure. That’s the last I heard anyway. So what say you ?

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    • Deb – I have not talked to Mike about the blog lately. I don’t believe anything has changed. If Mike does not believe in the chase anymore, I would hope he would keep those opinions to himself and let the rest of us (who do believe) have our fun. I did meet with him late last year – and at that time he was still on the hunt.

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      • I rarely come here – just because Dal’s always pops up first – but if Mike does decide to offload it, someone contact me g mail and let me know — I will pay to keep it running ..

        Brad

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    • Deb- what say me? first tell me what you mean by “treasure”. and yes I recently emailed Mike four times and got no response. I say a few years ago this blog was started by Dal for Forrest.

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    • Hi Argus33 –

      Yes, he has said that a few times now, but do you think by now he has defined the difference between a clue and a hint? A hint is something that guides one toward a clue. A clue moves you to the final destination. I could be so wrong as I don’t think he has ever given a clue – only hints. The only hint that might have moved one – is the 10,200 ft one.

      Argus – have you made a journey out in the wilds to find the TC? Do you have a final solve? Nice to see you here !

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      • Hey Inthechase; Yes, I’ve actually been haunting this forum for a couple of years now. I’m in northern Wisconsin and have made two separate search trips down to New Mexico. I have come up with a couple of, what I think to be, pretty interesting insights into this amazing Chase Mr. Fenn has gifted us with. In the past I’ve been pretty fast and loose with my thoughts, discoveries, and insights, and you can read them if you feel like scrolling through these threads into the past a good bit… I’ve posted them on here in order to sort of bounce them off the minds of folks who I know take this as seriously as I do. Sort of an, “I’ll show you mine, if you show me yours” regarding possible solve intel. But lately, I’ve been playing it a little closer to the chest if you know what I mean. I discovered something in the poem that blew me away. Something that no one, in any chat forum or blog has ever pointed out before. I believe it to be my discovery, and I’m rather proud of it. I think it’s important. It’s either a major, intentional message placed in the poem by FF, or else frankly, it is one Hell of a coincidence. I already shared it on here awhile ago, but it wasn’t met with much discussion or enthusiasm. That sort of troubled me, because like I said, I think it’s important. Anyway, I’ll show you what I found and maybe you’ll have some other piece that together with my info could unravel this mystery and lead us both to The Shiny Happy Money/Jewel Box. So. Here it is;

        Line three of the fourth quatrain…

        “But tarry scant with marvel gaze,”

        Now read it out loud slowly, focusing not on the words, but rather on the sounds as you interpret them phonetically.

        This is what I hear; “But Arie’s can’t with Marv, L. Gay’s…”

        Now. ARIE Beatrice Simpson was FF’s maternal grandmother. His father went by Marv. Marv married Lillie Gay Simpson Fenn. “L. Gay’s”.

        I’m sorry, but there is no way that this is coincidence! This is important. I share it here again now in the hope that you or someone else on here can help me build on this obviously intentional play on words. I have more, but I’m waiting for the right person to share their insight or intel with me that will build on this discovery.
        So there it is. I can be reached privately at 666friend33@gmail.com forgive the three sixes in my email address. It was an accident and a long story. I’m not some kind of devil worshiper!
        I really want to find this before Forrest passes into history. I want to stand there and thank him as I return his bracelet with one hand, and shake his with my other. 🙂

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        • I think sometime people do not respond because they either like an idea and believe in the concept and do not want to bring attention to it.

          With that said, I have read the poem similarly, however if I take your example and do less to the letter change from the poem, you get:
          “Butt Arie’s can’t with Marv L Gays.”

          I definitely had homed in on Lilly Gay Simpson before, I just can’t make sense of the “can’t” – what do you think it means?

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          • Hey Wolf,
            I just want to say I believe you are one of the people that have been to 200′ point of the chest. I also believe I know who the woman that was also that close in the beginning, and no it was not Stephanie. This lady posted on Forrest blog at one time. I’m not saying the area it’s to much of a giveaway but it was in your travels not your solves. If it sounds like I might have the poem solved, well I believe I do and I also believe I know why and how people were at the 200′ point and went right by it. I don’t want to come off cocky it’s that I have a lot to share in time about this chase. Also there is a reason why I’m not at the solve area but that’s ok because I don’t believe it will be found anytime soon so I have time. Well I will check in every now and then with some more input. Everyone stay safe in your travels. Bur

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          • Wow Bur that is something you do not hear everyday, someone suggesting another for being with 200′. I will admit, I do not think it is Stephanie as well. I sure hope you are right so you can find it and make me feel bad – lol Actually I would like to be in the club, so hurry up and make it so!

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          • I don’t personally know Stephanie, I’ve never met her, and I don’t know exactly where she has searched, but I have read some of her ideas and I think pointing Stephanie out as the only one out of 20,000 searchers “not being within 200 feet” is a little inappropriate, considering neither one of you have found the box either. None of you know for certain whether you have or haven’t been within 500 feet, let alone 200 feet. If you want to believe you have – or that someone else has – that’s fine .. I have no problem with encouraging another searcher in their efforts .. but don’t belittle someone else’s clue solving skills. Considering the number of searches she’s been on and her extremely creative out of the box ideas (at least the one’s I’ve read) the possibility that she HAS been within 200 feet is at least equal if not greater than most. In fact, her train siding solve fascinated me and I used it as part of my very first search in the middle of February 2015. I thought it was unique, completely different from everybody else’s and exactly the kind of thought process a fighter jock with Jungle School experience would use ..

            Stephanie is probably one of the BEST searchers in the whole group and deserves more respect ..

            Brad

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        • Wow Arguss –

          Amazing – a new find here after all these years.. Good for you ! You listened good.

          First, that made me think of Forrest saying something like – no one has talked about a certain thing.

          Here is his web site which has Grandparents Galore….

          www.oldsantafetradingco.com/blog/grandparents-galore

          I have always found this interesting because at the end of the story – his grandpa dies while shaving with his hat on. Also there is that scrapbook – about the hat.

          I am not sure where this is going to lead…………….yet.

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        • That is interesting Argus 33 when you break it down and reveal the word can’t , which can mean slope, slant ,on the edge ,it makes me wonder if there might just be something there, it might take some imagination Forrest called her the personification of gray in grandparents galore , Aries is an Aries astrologically which makes her a sheep, I’ve thought about maybe the Greybull river in the Big Horn Basin he talks about Comanches in that story and they originally lived with the Shoshone.

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        • That is interesting Argus 33 when you break it down and reveal the word can’t , which can mean slope, slant ,on the edge ,it makes me wonder if there might just be something there, it might take some imagination Forrest called her the personification of gray in grandparents galore , Aries is an Aries astrologically which makes her a sheep, I’ve thought about maybe the Greybull river in the Big Horn Basin he talks about Comanches in that story and they originally lived with the Shoshone.

          49 dollers:
          That is interesting Argus 33 when you break it down and reveal the word can’t , which can mean slope, slant ,on the edge ,it makes me wonder if there might just be something there, it might take some imagination Forrest called her the personification of grayin grandparents galore , Aries is an Aries astrologically which makes her a sheep,I’ve thought about maybe the Greybull river in the Big Horn Basin he talks about Comanches in that story and they originally lived with the Shoshone.

          Oops I meant to say she was a bull astrologically.

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          • Removing the coma and go with “cant” then we have “to set at an angle. ”

            Arie is also synonymous with the first point of aries or position of the vernal equinox or first day of spring.

            I like the direction this is going.

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  38. bob:
    wolf- nobody is going to say India. just get it overwith.

    Geez Bob,

    Perhaps this is Forrest’s answer to you…………

    Posted on August 12, 2016 by Jenny Kile
    thrill of the chase treasure Mr. Fenn, you’ve undoubtedly met countless numbers of us searchers (via email), is there anyone who stands out in your mind, and if so, why? ~ Doug

    Many stick out in my mind Doug, but especially the fictitious little girl from India who Jenny invented.f

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  39. The Wolf:
    Hey Into, who is your Ed?I like Ed.

    Wolf ,

    You know Ed……..he usually hangs out in the barn…….except when he’s having drinks with Bob at the bar………..Ok you can sprinkle me with thyme now – I need it.

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      • Wolf – I don’t have a clue who your Ed is…..
        A member of riders of the sage? Naw……
        Give us more hints…………………

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        • inthechaseto and wolf- you both are talking about mister ed the supposedly talking horse. its funny to me how a wonderful invention like television was used to fool everyone in the early days. and the tradition continues. sure, it was funny when Lucy Ricardo was fooling Desi. but its not funny when it happens to you.

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          • Yes, Bob –

            I’ll bet he knows your wrabit very well………..Did you ever read his theme song? Here it is……….

            “Hello, I’m Mister ED”

            A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
            And no one can talk to a horse of course
            That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed.

            Go right to the source and ask the horse
            He’ll give you the ANSWER that you’ll endorse.
            He’s always on a steady course.
            Talk to Mr. Ed.

            People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day
            But Mister Ed will never speak unless he has something to say.

            A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
            And this one’ll talk ’til his voice is hoarse.
            You never heard of a talking horse?

            Well LISTEN to this.

            I am Mister ED.

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        • and, inthechaseto did you know they had to torture that horse to get him to talk? they put peanut butter on the roof of his mouth. mr. ED hated peanut butter.

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  40. inthechaseto:
    Awh….Harvey – I can see him sitting there in that bar with you, all white with his big pink ears.I wonder if he talks to Ed.Ed doesn’t talk very much – only when he has something important to say.

    inthechasto- it’s been a while since i hit one out of the park…..feels good.

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    • Wolf –

      Loved your new article as I not only love the old west but love the way you write too. All newbies should buy your book……….

      The Sundance Kid is surrounded by mystery.

      Found these entries on Find A Grave (a great site for short bios)……..and I like reading the notes people leave………

      “.From 1905 to 1920 before fleeing to S.A. Harvey Logan lived in Kentucky and West Virginia
      with one of his many wives, he went by the name Doc Franklin Logan..Doc Logan “died” in 1920
      when he joined a local coal company and was “killed” the same week in an “accident” the body
      recovered was thought to be Doc’s but his wife and others were not convinced..his wife,”

      ” Arabella Adams Logan was my great, great grandmother..he is believed by the family to have
      fled the U.S. with Annie Rogers aka Della Moore.
      -Anonymous
      Added: Jul. 27, 2014″

      “Harvey Andrew Logan, aka Kid Curry, did not die in 1904 at Parachute, Colorado, though it makes good local publicity. According to his grandson, he died in 1944 near Rawson, Argentina, married with 8 children. The man killed at Parachute, Colorado, in 1904 was a young Texan named Jim York.
      – Kerry Ross Boren
      Added: Sep. 16, 2013”

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      • Thank you Inthechaseto for continuing to support cancer research. Searching has been proven to be dangerous and gold fever can have a subliminal effect. I purposely included instances of my searches where I encountered these dangerous effects and tried to illustrate the craziness that some searchers will go to find this treasure.

        That is interesting about what you say about Kid Currie, Of course I saw the grave with my own eyes, complete with the story of his death but anything is possible when trying to evade the law.

        What I liked about Kid Curry is his name is “Harvey Logan” and the bracelet that gets lots of attention was owned by Fred Harvey and Fenn Mentions Lee Harvey Oswald in TTOTC. The last reference has other meanings I am sure, but the use of Harvey is curious and worth looking into. Fenn also posed as Billy the Kid in those pictures an mentions Captain Kid, the pirate, thus Kid Curry is easy to connect.

        Train robberies were their specialties and many will note how I have tied trains into many of my searches.

        So many connections and associations, one just needs to see the pattern to put it all together

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        • Wolf –

          Wow , look at all those Harvey’s…..hummm so interesting….and then the relationship to Jackie.

          In the past….I took a very good look at everyone except Lee Harvey Oswald…….and did not use them in my solve. I’ll go take a look at him now….

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          • Harvey and I have things to do…we sit in the bars….have a drink or two…play the jukebox. Very soon the faces of all the other people turn towards me and they smile. they say: “we dont know your name mister, but youre a very nice fellow.” Harvey and I warm ourselves in these golden moments. We came as strangers- soon we have friends. they come over. they sit with us. they drink with us. they talk to us. they tell us about the great big terrible things theyve done and the great big wonderful things theyre going to do. their hopes, their regrets. their loves, their hates. All very large because nobody ever brings anything small into a bar.Then I introduce them to Harvey, and hes bigger and grander than anything they can offer me. And when they leave, they leave impressed. The same people seldom come back, but thats- thats envy my dear. Theres a little bit of envy in the best of us. Thats too bad isnt it.

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          • Awh….Harvey – I can see him sitting there in that bar with you, all white with his big pink ears. I wonder if he talks to Ed. Ed doesn’t talk very much – only when he has something important to say.

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          • research all the real Harveys you want…i’ll stick with the imaginary ones. because imagination is more important to the chase than knowledge.

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        • Wolf –

          Remember FF’s story on the spices – Sweet Fragrances…..he does not mention the common spice – curry.

          I took at look at Lee Harvey Oswald,,, and he does fit my initial criteria. But and that’s a huge but – I have to find more than one hint to use him. I didn’t use anyone without at least three hints………and then it’s gonna upset my apple cart………..geeez.

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          • inthechaseto- yes i remember sweet fragrances…but didnt FF also write that some of the fragrances “crinkle his nose”?
            implying that some of the fragrances stink. like feet.

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          • Another good spice is Thyme
            Thyme was also used as incense and placed on coffins during funerals, as it was supposed to assure passage into the next life.

            Also given to knights and warriors

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          • Wolf –

            Now I know more about “curry” than I ever wanted to know….lol

            One of the most commonly available curries in Thailand is massaman. Thai curry is characterized by meat, fish and vegetables in sauces created using spicy pastes.

            To experience many different flavours, be sure to visit Phuket. Affordable flights to Phuket are easy to find and there’s a lot to see and do in this intriguing city. Don’t miss the Phuket Aquarium or the Chalong Temple.

            Oh and guess what – it comes in red, green and yellow.

            BTW – the British are the number one users of curry in the world.

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          • Hello, All.

            All this talk about curry is making me hungry.

            I love curry. I think it has great favors…

            …especially a spicy, sweet green curry made with coconut milk and lots of bell peppers.

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          • “Owl,” said Rabbit shortly, “you and I have brains. the others have fluff. if there is any thinking to be done on this Forrest–and when I say thinking I MEAN thinking– then you and I must do it ! ”

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  41. inthechaseto:
    49 –

    Thanks for your post here and at Jenny’s – I’ll bet you where surprised when FF answered you……

    PS – California is beautiful – I miss it.

    PSS – I did tell Forrest I was from Calif. and his answer to me was _

    You’d better move to Colorado because California is going to fall into the ocean.

    True story…………………

    Hmmm , I remember him saying to another searcher that Colorado was a good place to search from, it happens to be the state I’ve searched the least. Dag nab it. 🙂

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    • Yep 49 – but you’ll not hear him say that in public. He avoids Colorado – usually. He avoids it like the plague in the book. It’s one of the reasons I thought it might be right. He came real close to my spot in one of the scrapbooks and I called him out on it. I said to him, you really ARE getting a little to close to home – talking about that………………no response…………..

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  42. bob:
    hi 49. i can give you my two cents worth even though it aint worth a plug nickel. these are the good ol days! right now!

    Hey Bob, inthechaseto, what do you think paddle means is it “switch” or” switch back ” since June did everything right
    What is a paddle? Pg 40, ” and if there was no movement, we both got SPANKINGS…..Father liked Skippy best and I knew when he got a LICKING anything could happen after that. So I’d just stand there and wait for my TURN at the PADDLE. After four of five times the SPANKINGS began to work for me.
    June never got SWITCHED because she probably did everything RIGHT.

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    • 49- the paddle was a midwestern term for anything mom or dad could grab to deliver the spanking. some “paddles” are- dads belt, a large spoon or spatula, a 2 by 4, furring strip, baseball bat, anything handy to beat the devil out of you.

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      • Boy are you right Bob – my mom’s paddle was a coat hanger.

        A paddle was also called the board of education – which was usually hung on a wall – with those words on it.

        I guess we all have a 4 yr college degree by now….

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      • I used to try and hide a book in my pants before it was my turn at the belt.
        ol Bessie switched her tail and knocked Forrest off his stool , he used the term swished in the book which is incorrect. Might be an aberrationa, hint to look closer.Peggy always said she would rather switch than fight, thought that was strange, seems to be alot of switching going on.

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        • Yes, a switch – a hefty switch aroo is needed in the solve…………….if not – your gonna be wrong.

          What’s the right word for swished that FF should have used………….?

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        • At least he told us from the beginning he was going to be 85% right. 🙂

          When he bends – is when you have to pay attention.

          When I went on my first search – I came upon a twig – actually part of a bush that had been tied across the trail. It was a deer trail on the side of a mountain – and I was walking across the mountain – wondering when I should go up…..the switch was tied across the trail. If you went up at that point it was and is a short cut.

          twig is an acrostic in the poem….

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        • 49- the word swished seems correct to me, since i was raised in Kansas..

          the hint to look closer at Bessie and me is to direct your attention to the capital F hidden under the knot in Bessies tail, where it is tied to the stool. thhe other capital F is hidden in Teachers with ropes. the two capital F’s consist of the blaze (trail marker) look quickly down from each capital F and you see feet. many feet.

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    • “So I’d just stand there and wait for my TURN at the PADDLE. After four of five times the SPANKINGS began to work for me.”

      49 – nice quote, if you turn 4 or 5 paddles in an ever drawing nigh fashion, thing do start to work.

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    • Hi 49 -]

      Saw that you posted this at Jenny’s…..

      Posted on March 26, 2015 by Jenny Kile
      Forrest, you have stated that several searchers correctly identified the first two clues in your poem.
      Could you tell us how many searchers to your knowledge have correctly identified the first clue correctly? Thanks. ~49 Dollars

      No 49, I cannot tell you how many searchers have identified the first clue correctly, but certainly more than several. I cannot imagine anyone finding the treasure without first identifying the starting point, although many seem to be preoccupied with later clues. To me that’s just expensive folly. f
      …………………………………………………
      I have a question for you – do you have a good starting point – and have you had BOTG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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      • Hey inthechaseto I’ ve had several different starting points, one in Idaho before Fenn eliminated the state, though I still have tried to use it and stretch it into Montana , another was Sunshine reservoir outside of Meeteetse. Not behind adam, madam, I mean a dam, ruined that. I have others but have not searched this year, Ive had BOTG several times, I do not have the confidence I now require of myself to put BOTG, unless I just want to spend time with nature which I treasure anyway, but I live in the Ca. foothills so I don’t need to travel to the Rockies to find breathtaking scenery.

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        • 49 –

          Thanks for your post here and at Jenny’s – I’ll bet you where surprised when FF answered you……

          PS – California is beautiful – I miss it.

          PSS – I did tell Forrest I was from Calif. and his answer to me was _

          You’d better move to Colorado because California is going to fall into the ocean.

          True story…………………

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          • hello inthechaseto good day to you, history shows that California will not fall into the ocean. in fact, a whole new mountain range will push up out of the ocean just off the west coast creating the next great salt lake where the coast is now. extending the land mass of the US.

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      • Hi Bob you are a die hard ttotc blogger, l like that ,I’m a bit of a loner myself, I’m not into all the drama the other blogs are full of these days, and yes you are correct these are the good ol days, sometimes I just need to be reminded, thanks! Yea Bob I just need to know where warm water halts, I can take it from there.

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    • Agree 49 -Dal’s site is heavily moderated and it has become the “School of Seeker.” I can’t post in good conscience on CC anymore. Just too many multiple accounts and disturbed men posting under women’s names. PW is famous for that tactic and Bet’s treatment of Mindy and he sick mother was just too much for me. Moderators that belittle posters who have positive thoughts. There is just too much evil on that blog and Stephanie just encourages it.

      Only two blogs of value this one and MW. Maybe the A-team will reemerge.

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  43. Lots of traffic today due to the newpaper articles on Randy. RIP

    Welcome to any newcomers – don’t be afraid to post – we won’t bite – I promise.

    Recently there has been lots of talk about horses……yes, indeed I do think horses are involved in the chase in several places. Take a look at William Fox-Pitt. Now there’s a clue for you. He had a most serious fall last year and was in a coma for quite some time. He is an Olympic Eventer….and should be in Rio this year. I wish him the best as he said he is a little slower in the things he does.

    Take a look at Lightening in TTOTC book……..what goes with lightning? Thunder of course…….Oh yes, Thunder is a horse.

    And then of course there is Ed………….

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  44. Evening wear Bob ? is that like pajamas ? The old timers club, is that like the people who wear pajamas to Walmart? LOL.

    Bob, it doesn’t matter where we post. I like it here, I don’t like all the rules at Dals. I am not a rules kind of gal. I have my own filters and rarely overstep self imposed boundaries. I may read occasionally at Dals but most of the time find it hard to deal with feeling like there is a guard dog there to keep the sheep in line.
    Baaaaaaaaaaa

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    • hi Deb! you must be a psychic, I was thinking of writing a funny story about how the folks at dals are like cattle or sheep and are being herded. of course we here at Mikes are the cowboys riding horses and trying to keep the cattle from going into the river. because I keep reading on Dals that most folks are searching near a river or waterfall. it proved to be Randy’s undoing.

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  45. Well Bob,

    I am able to access it again – bet you can too……..maybe he just wanted to show some power or maybe things really went haywire.

    This was posted by FF…………..

    “My name is Forrest Fire and I live in Santa Fe because it’s the best place in the world in which to do that. I like to walk up the side of a hill and look back down. My favorite dislike is a dry tamale.”

    I LIKE TO WALK UP THE SIDE OF A HILL AND LOOK BACK DOWN.

    oK oK i’M SMILING AGAIN, if your solve doesn’t have a reason to walk up hill…………and look back down……….you might be in the wrong place. 🙂

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    • He Deb –

      Dal said it was because I wasn’t following the posted rules. I never read those rules….. and I’ve seen other people post FF email and they are not in moderation. I have never heard him so mad. I thought maybe this would last a week = but I guess not. Far be it for me to know what he thinks when he takes what Wolf’s post’s and deletes them………….. It’s his web site and he can play fair or not.

      Today, I went back and looked at those very early posts that we all made. There was Dal, Steph, You, and not many more who are still here. Those were the times when Dal would post something and get 7 responses. All from 2011. The Old Timers Club should be formed and no one else allowed in.

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      • inthechaseto- if i may butt in to your reply to Deb…..an old timers club, thats a good idea. im not an old timer i only started pissing off Dal and Forrest around march of 2013. im a middle aged clubber. i’m sure the reason Dal said he banned you is not the real reason. i did read the rules but couldn’t find the button that says- “I agree to these terms” so there really is no way to hold anybody responsible for what they write. Dal is faking being mad at you. in order to keep playing the game, it has become obvious to me what is necessary to do is to be like the ones Dal and Forrest admire. those at the present are….Desertphile, Cynthia, JD, pdenver, and a few others. I read Dals blog regularly and i dont recall seeing any post you made that could justify your banning. the one huge problem you do have, is talking to me. I’m the bad guy, the antagonist, the trouble maker. since i’m urging searchers to come down out of the mountains and into the museum* I am seen as evil. yes, evil….heh heh heh. forget about YOUR boots on the ground and look for HIS boots on the ground, by the chest.

        *draper museum of natural history

        try writing up a nice, cute little search story about the wilderness, and email it to Dal with nice pretty photos of flowers and streams an i’ll bet you will be back in the club. oh, and make sure to thank FF for providing you with the incentive to get “back to nature”. and remember that none of it has to be true.

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        • Thanks Bob –

          Somehow you made me feel better –

          I could write some made up story about how I found my spot – but I won’t do that. I am a Sagittarius and we have a very hard time telling lies. Fiction would not be my forte as far as writing goes.

          I really am going to start giving away more clues – if I can’t find it – I want it to be found by somebody…….and soon.

          I know that FF’s father owned a resort in Colorado. No one seems to know that. Did Forrest go there – of course he did. Was it a special place – yes. Did he have friends there? Yes.

          There was a questions at Chase chat asking about what was most important to ff…………

          My answer would be : PEOPLE

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          • hey inthechaseto we might want to tidy up a bit here at mikes blog…in trying to get on Dals i get a message that says “forbidden” wow didnt know i was that special. but then, Bur told me he gets the same message. we may get a flood of visitors here very soon.

            I’ll change into evening wear.

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          • bob:
            hey inthechaseto we might want to tidy up a bit here at mikes blog…in trying to get on Dals i get a message that says “forbidden” wow didnt know i was that special. but then, Bur told me he gets the same message. we may get a flood of visitors here very soon.

            I’ll change into evening wear.

            Bob – Looks like we’ve all been put in the tank……Ha Ha Ha

            I’m getting the same thing ….forbidden…….

            I’m calling to order a party here. 🙂

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  46. Message to E(star)
    I responded to your post on the Coriolis effect/ants at HoD, but as predicted Goofy and or Dal deleted it. I guess it was too revealing and they decided to keep the information for themselves.

    I just want to let you know that I had solved the Coriolis Ant aberration a few weeks ago and the answer explains why Mr. Fenn thinks the Andrew Briggs has some of it right. More later…

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    • Wolf –

      I just read your thread over there and would be interested in hearing what you found – could you post it here?

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      • My intention was to start a discussion to help the reader come to the same conclusion.

        Pilots understand Coriolis effect very well. It derives predominate wind direction. Interesting there are null areas in Global wind patterns one is know as the horse latitude which is at the tropic if Cancer (interesting connection). The horse latitudes got its name from the seamen parading a effigy of a horse around the deck before tossing it overboard. Thus the term beating a dead horse.

        The point is winds are reversed of mirrored in the southern latitudes and many people believe the Coriolis effect tells which way the water spins as it goes down a drain. The effect has been proven wrong and spoofed in the Simpson episode when they go to Australia.

        Fenn did the same thing with the ants, hinting the ants are effected by Coriolis force. Then he made an even more outrageous statement which had Goofy stumped because he refuses to believe Fenn does not hint.

        This is a good start to the discussion. I will continue if there is interest.

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      • So Coriolis Force is a north- south effect that is mirrored or reversed once on crosses the equator. When Fenn says a comprehensive knowledge of geography might help, Coriolis Force fits that requirement because it determines many of our wether patterns as the spinning earth deflects the wind direction as the zones to air circulate.

        So the question is why did Mr. Fenn say the Coriolis Force is why people drive on the other side of the road in the UK? Remember Coriolis Force is a North – South Hemisphere effect not a East – West. No pilot would ever make that kind of blatant mistake.

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        • hi Wolf! good to see you here today. I emailed Inthechaseto a photo of the coriolis effect as i believe it would pertain to the chest. i cant post the photo here but maybe inthechaseto can show it to you.

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        • Wolf you said –

          So the question is why did Mr. Fenn say the Coriolis Force is why people drive on the other side of the road in the UK? Remember Coriolis Force is a North – South Hemisphere effect not a East – West. No pilot would ever make that kind of blatant mistake.

          I started thinking about my spot and tried to put this effect into it. The best I can come up with is – the path to where you park is in the shape of a backwards “S”. Plus, I would not want to go on part of the road without driving on the other side at one point – due to large boulders (which has now been fixed – but I doubt FF would know that).

          If you want me to send you Bob’s photo of the Coriolis effect – let me know. It’s a good one.

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          • how you like that photo wolf? of the coriolis affect…got you all to thinking maybe ole bob is on to something eh?
            heh heh heh.

            maybe he aint so dumb after all eh?

            heh heh heh.

            maybe he’s right.

            heh heh heh.

            told ya.

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        • Wolf:

          I believe Fenn’s “Coriolis Effect” equals his “Backwards Bicycle Effect” — that is, when he says ‘Up’ he means ‘Down’ and when he says ‘Right’ he means ‘Left’ — however I don’t think it applies every time – like maybe once in the whole poem .. like, for example, Nigh doesn’t mean Left but Right, or Far not Near .. or Up and Down are reversed or No Paddle means Paddle .. could be any word means the opposite of what it says .. in other words, you need to look both directions to find the next clue .. or decipher double meanings two different ways ..

          Brad

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    • What does it have to do with ants ? They climb up and down , not in circles. He has even commented he threw it out there to see who caught it.

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  47. inthechaseto:
    Youalways make me laugh Bob!

    Yes, he’s back over there now….Oh boy – we’ll see what great info is going to be said.I’m betting it’s a total waste of my time.

    in the spirit of friendly competition inthechaseto….i hope so.
    lol

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    • I am just glad to see anyone posting . It’s up to us to decide if we read it or not. I have enjoyed many people’s posts if I believed them associated with the poem . It still comes down to the poem, bottom line . I am not adding that is my opinion, all stuff posted on blogs are opinions.

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  48. hey Inthechaseto !

    second vowel capitalized asterisk is on Dals!

    lets see how long it takes for big e star to get back here…..

    hop to it bunny boy!

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    • Smiling Bob…….

      Did you ever see someone talk and talk — and say nothing? That’s the perfect definition of a bore. I don’t think sh”e” will be back here – What gives her the right to totally dominate a blog?

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      • inthechaseto- h”e” ‘s superior intelligence…thats what gives him the right. simply stellar. I wouldnt make a bunyon on his big toe.

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        • Bob…….

          I think it’s done in a way that anyone could find the answers, solve it and do it. I don’t think any superior intelligence, or outlandish knowledge is needed. It’s possible that might be a hindrance . If you have a computer – you can find the answers to most questions – and not have someone shoving them down your throat in a way that may mislead.

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          • inthechaseto- it is not possible for any one searcher to mislead another. no matter what they say or write or imply. because no body knows the location of the bronze box.

            i dont mind fifth letter large/ twinkle shoving things down my throat because im pretty good at regurgitating those things and throwing them right back. if and when the shining e comes back just ignore it. hopefully i can make you laugh. lol

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          • You always make me laugh Bob!

            Yes, he’s back over there now….Oh boy – we’ll see what great info is going to be said. I’m betting it’s a total waste of my time.

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  49. bob:
    blog biz- hey inthechaseto! are you busy? i noticed on dals you were involved in the discussion about the stamps. i tried to post a photo of kids getting the stamps of which i believe the stamps from TTOTC are a hint to. but, again i cannot post this photo. i’ll try to send it to your email if you want me to.
    heres mine….robertgreene9y53@gmail.com

    Hi Bob –

    Well regarding the photo – you sure nailed it – as FF said show it to a kid.

    So, do only kids get to do that or can adults do it too?

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    • anyone can do it, the passports are in a slot next to the stamping machine.

      all thats needed is to “know the answers FF already knows”

      lol

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  50. blogs buzz’s- whats this? an interview with Cynthia , FF says something about two trips from the parking lot? you mean the parking lot at the Buffalo Bill Historical Center of the West?
    and in one trip a chest?
    and a backpack?

    gosh, there’s a backpack on top of the chest at the Draper.

    golly, can it be?

    and the backpack is used to hide the whole word, leaving only a couple letters showing.

    nawwww… it cant be.
    im dumb.

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      • inthechaseto- OOHHH!!! you got me there!
        no, I dont have where he said that. darn. somebody else said it on Dal’s blog. totally negates my whole line of thinking. i should construe Mr. Fenn’s statements more carefully and disregard those of confused searchers. how bout i just say that FF used a backpack to hide the chest? from wherever he parked the car or airplane or bicycle or wagon or horse or etc. etc. etc.

        but thank you for your reply. it was straightforward and easily understood. I am walking back towards you, see my toes? i will speak to you again now my friend. looks like its just you and me now anyway. everyone else is gone. lol

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        • Bob –

          Glad to hear your footsteps – comin back at me.

          When we whisper – they are listening.

          The last two out of a bastion of many smart ones who have moved on….haha

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          • blog biz- hey inthechaseto! are you busy? i noticed on dals you were involved in the discussion about the stamps. i tried to post a photo of kids getting the stamps of which i believe the stamps from TTOTC are a hint to. but, again i cannot post this photo. i’ll try to send it to your email if you want me to.
            heres mine….robertgreene9753@gmail.com

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  51. inthechaseto:
    Yes, Bob – by treasure I meant the money honey.

    It’s too bad that people don’t know themselves well enough to be just real all the time.

    If I think of anything that might help you – I will post it here in the future – right now I’m stumped.I’m sure you were hoping for a major break thru at the fennborie and am sorry that didn’t happen.

    Well if we gave a party for the folks here,it would have to be a FennForAll…………

    Great idea Inthechaseto! A FennForAll in Cody Wyoming at the Draper Museum. I like that.
    in the meantime, im working on sharing my findings with the redneck from Texas with 8 kids. the ones who were supposed to find the chest. with my help, they WILL find the chest.

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    • That’s good to give your solution to that redneck from Texas – I hope it’s the guy with 8 kids next to me —— maybe then he’ll move,,,,,,,

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  52. Important Notice A-Team, please read carefully….

    I tried via email, but was unable to send Mike, our caretaker of this blog the photo I have of the wooden chest at the Draper Museum. The message displayed on my screen was- “Blocked due to security reasons.” Since I am banned from Dal’s blog I was hoping Mike could send it to Dal for me. To be used in the “I Think The Chest Is Here” thread at Dal’s. As you all know by now I really believe that this wooden chest at the Draper is in fact the chest of Forrest Fenn’s poem. I then sent Mike a photo via email I have from the Oregon wilderness as a test, of course that one went to Mike successfully. I have heard nothing back from Mike. Obviously my computer is hacked and that of itself does not bother me. Not being able to contribute to the Thrill of the Chase does bother me. What harm could possibly come from this particular photo? We all BELIEVE there really is a bronze box full of gold hidden in the rocky mountains for an Indiana Jones type to find. So how is it that a simple wooden chest in plain sight at a museum causes such secrecy? Unless this truly IS the chest of the poem and its waiting for the end of Forrest Fenn’s rainbow.

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    • Bob –

      If you want you could download the photo here. Post the photo to one of the free photo websites online and from there – to here. We all know you think the TC is at the Draper in that wooden box. Didn’t you e-mail FF that — and I can’t remember what happened? Did he respond? If not – how would it ever be found ? Don’t you think someone who works at the museum would find it after hours – and don’t you think FF would consider that …………?

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      • inthechaseto- that photo has been here at Mikes, it was removed. thank you for the idea though.
        and to clarify my thoughts…. no, I do not think the bronze box is at the museum. the wooden chest at the draper is the chest of the poem.
        the Treasure Chest, TC or whatever you want to call it is something else entirely. I THINK the treasure chest, the bronze box and the chest spoken of in the poem are three separate things.

        when FF speaks or writes about a treasure chest he is talking about a national park or the wilderness. there is undiscovered gold in the rocky mountains to be sure in its natural state.

        the bronze box is exactly what FF says it is, probably hidden in his vault at the home in Santa Fe.

        and the chest, singular word here- chest and nothing more…”just take the CHEST and go in peace” is the wooden box at the Draper Museum.

        I will write it again inthechaseto- the bronze box is not at the Draper. I got confirmation of this from the curator himself Dr. Charles Preston in a private email. Dr. Preston got his information from FF himself.

        the poem clearly states to take the chest and go in peace. meaning to take a photo of the chest and leave the museum.

        IN TTOTC the sentence just before the poem states something like, im going from memory here…”so i wrote a poem containing nine clues that will lead to the TREASURE and the end of my rainbow”. so he means treasure as in national park or anywhere special in the rocky mountains, as many have done. and the end of his rainbow is death at which time i believe, the solution to the poem chest will be revealed as the Draper Museum of Natural History. and of course the wooden box at the McCracken display with the letters IN on the top.

        “so why is it that i must go? (die)
        and leave my trove for all to seek (the Draper)
        the answer i already know(the touch screen quizzes at the Draper)
        ive done it tired and now im weak” ( hiked the mountains from 10,000 feet to 4,000 feet)
        which is the Draper experience.

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        • Thanks for explaining that so I can understand it Bob. It’s quite a theory – and no one knows – who is right and who is wrong.

          So, you think he will have to die – in order for the treasure to be found?

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          • inthechaseto- I have a hard time discussing this when you dont clarify what you mean by treasure. i’ll assume by treasure you mean the bronze box. if that is correct, then yes I believe the bronze box location will be revealed at his death. in fact I have made a certain proposal to him in a letter concerning the matter to which I recieved no reply. to date no one will tell me im right, wrong, or insane. lol. by no one, i mean FF, Dal and Dr. Preston. they all ignore me. At Fennboree I was hoping to talk to Desertphile, David Rice but even he was talking in circles. A guy can only take so much of the runaround, know what I mean? I’m using plain english here why do they make it difficult, unless I was on to something.

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          • Yes, Bob – by treasure I meant the money honey.

            It’s too bad that people don’t know themselves well enough to be just real all the time.

            If I think of anything that might help you – I will post it here in the future – right now I’m stumped. I’m sure you were hoping for a major break thru at the fennborie and am sorry that didn’t happen.

            Well if we gave a party for the folks here, it would have to be a FennForAll…………

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          • Bob…;
            All due respect to you in spite of the things I’m about to say here.
            It is my opinion that you are desperately trying to force the Draper as the correct solve. It is also my opinion that people are trying very hard to be kind, and not hurt your feelings in any way. But Bob…? I’m going to drop some “tough love” on you here now Sir; Your solve and all of your very creatively rationalizations are, in my opinion, nonsense and do not add up to the correct solve. You don’t seem to listen to, or hear what Mr. Fenn is saying vis a vis the location of the box of golden shiny money things! I don’t think anyone wants to say this to you, but the reason you don’t seem to be getting replies to your attempts at contact with the Puppet Master or his accomplices is because they are probably tired of trying to deal with your seemingly desperate need to hear the words, “…you’re RIGHT Bob!”. But the thing is, if you were right, they would be quite a bit more communicative and supportive of your thoughts, efforts, and hard work! Man! I’m just going to say it! Your theory…? Your “solve”….? Is just…NUTS brother! It just doesn’t add up!
            So there it is. I’m sorry, and truly don’t want to make you feel bad or disrespect you, but someone had to say it!
            Peace and Happy Hunting!

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          • Bob…;
            All due respect to you in spite of the things I’m about to say here.
            It is my opinion that you are desperately trying to force the Draper as the correct solve. It is also my opinion that people are trying very hard to be kind, and not hurt your feelings in any way. But Bob…? I’m going to drop some “tough love” on you here now Sir; Your solve and all of your very creative rationalizations are, in my opinion, nonsense and do not add up to the correct solve. You don’t seem to listen to, or hear what Mr. Fenn is saying vis a vis the location of the box of golden shiny money things! I don’t think anyone wants to say this to you, but the reason you don’t seem to be getting replies to your attempts at contact with the Puppet Master or his accomplices is because they are probably tired of trying to deal with your seemingly desperate need to hear the words, “…you’re RIGHT Bob!”. But the thing is, if you were right, they would be quite a bit more communicative and supportive of your thoughts, efforts, and hard work! Man! I’m just going to say it! Your theory…? Your “solve”….? Is just…NUTS brother! It just doesn’t add up!
            So there it is. I’m sorry, and truly don’t want to make you feel bad or disrespect you, but someone had to say it!
            Peace and Happy Hunting!

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        • Bob , you do realize David Rice speaks doublespeak on a regular basis ? LOL Try and get a straight answer out of him. Next to impossible.

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          • hi Deb, well i see these guys on camera in interviews. and i dont understand why in person they act like someone else. I just walk away from it.

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  53. this blog buzz comment is in refernce to Wisconsin Mike’s Survey on Dal’s blog….

    Wisconsin Mike did not approach me about his survey at Fennboree. Probably because I tried to avoid him. He’s got a Mitt Romney appearance thing goin on and that scared me. I’m sure he’s an OK dude but I remember when Romney was running for president. He went to a McDonald’s resturant to get lunch while the cameras were rollin. trying to show the viewing public he’s a regular Joe. But, he made a huge mistake…He orders a Quarter Pounder with cheese and then added- “hold the cheese” Wow! Really? That proved he’s not a regular Joe. The Quarter Pounder with cheese is not a Quarter Pounder with cheese if you ask them to leave off the cheese Mitt. DUH! I can hear the guy at the grill when the order shows up on his screen….”say what? A quarter pounder with cheese and leave off the cheese? what that dude gonna do with a quarter pounder with cheese that ain’t got no cheese on it?”
    Don’t worry man just make it, he ain’t gonna eat it. It’s just a publicity stunt. He goin to Red Lobster for lunch when they turn off the camera.

    I think one of Wisconsin Mike’s kids helped me with the map of the USA at Fennboree, she drew in Minnesota and Wisconsin. that was nice.
    But, had I talked to Wisconsin Mike and participated in his survey, I would have spilled the beans. The first clue is where he went alone- the buffalo bill center of the west. and the second clue is the treasures bold- donated gold dust and moose poke, among other items. I guess I would have ruined his survey with facts.

    ” I’ll have a survey please, oh and hold the facts.”

    Ahhhh Fennboree.

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  54. here is the Fennboree schedule for anyone who hasnt seen it at Dals blog…

    friday- opening campfire
    saturday am- movie (what the heck???)
    noon- food, trivia game (whatever)
    evening- another campfire (i guess all the blaze talk makes us pyromaniacs)

    sunday- pancake breakfast

    i’m bringing dehydrated water and sugar-free doughnuts.
    and every searchers favorite…..spilled beans.

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  55. blog buzz!!!
    wow dals blog truly is your one stop shopping extravaganza for treasure!
    the latest “Treasure Hunting With ARCGIS” will produce results quickly im sure. treasure will be found by anyone who uses it. how can you not? with the search map reduced drastically, and the use of thermal imaging at sunset that bronze box is a goner! as bronze will retain heat longer than any surrounding natural substance.

    dont tell those college boys what they really need to find is the chest mentioned in the poem.

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  56. Hey A -team!

    Thirty-six years ago this week (April 12, 1980) a brave young 21-year-old man began an epoch journey when he dipped his prosthetic leg in the Atlantic ocean near St John’s Newfoundland. His goal was to raise $1 dollar from every Canadian to support cancer research. His name was Terry Fox; born in Winnipeg, he unfortunately acquired osteosarcoma (cancer of the bone) and had his right leg amputated. A natural athlete in high school, he was inspired by Dick Traum, the first person to complete the New York Marathon with a prosthetic leg. That inspiration lead to a dream, a dream that motived a nation to participate annually in a drive to raise cancer awareness honouring his name.

    Terry Fox began his “Marathon of Hope” committed to running a marathon everyday without rest until he crossed Canada. After a slow start, the young man fought through the resistance to impede his race and by the time he reached Ontario, he was drawing crowds of 10,000 strong. The nation was inspired by his determination, but on Sept 1st, 1980 his Marathon of Hope came to an end just outside Thunder Bay, Ontario, as his cancer had spread to his lungs. On June 19, 1981 Terry Fox died having reached his goal of raising $23 million.

    On Sep 19th of every year, Canadians take up the Marathon of Hope and have donated over $600 million to cancer research under his name. Cancer survival rates for osteosarcoma have risen to 80% thanks to Terry’s efforts.

    Terry Fox was awarded the Order of Canada and the Order of Dogwood (the province of BC’s highest award) and was voted second only to Tommy Douglas as Canada’s greatest hero.

    April is the Cancer month in Canada, symbolized by the daffodil. I was delighted when my son Blake (pictured here), joined the fight to help raise money for the cause.

    When I was 25 years old, I too had contracted the deadly form of cancer, Melanoma. I was fortunate to survive, but contracting this disease, so early in life, allowed me to understand the motivation behind the brave young Terry Fox. I have followed his lead and I hope to motivate others to donate generously to cancer research. Every penny raised through sales of my book, Finding Forrest Fenn, go directly to Cancer research. I ask that you too join the fight and purchase my book or donate directly to my Canadian Cancer Society research fund. Your donations are making a difference.

    Lets join the fight and please keep Terry Fox in your minds!

    read it at:
    www.findingfenn.com/#!Terry-Fox-Canadas-Greatest-Hero/cam/5712475b0cf20ee5e3c554d8

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    • blog buzz! over at Dals there is discussion about what Forrest means when he uses the word “doncha”

      so I called my buddy Dick Shenary and he said it means….don’t you.

      one more mystery solved by the A-Team!

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  57. It has been quiet here on TTOTC. So here is my thought I came up with tonight. What I have found in the Poem and there meaning is really out there. I thought I have figured the line” Begin it where warm waters halt”. The words just didn’t fit like the rest of the Poem. Then something just imbued my thoughts deeper about the line “Begin it where warm waters halt”. It seems that it means” To live again”. Strange as it sounds, it fits.
    What do you think?

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    • geydelkon- its best for me to keep quiet right now because im about to meet all the people from the blogs that i gave such a hard time to.

      at Fennboree!

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      • Hello Bob,

        My plans seem to change without me even knowing it. Today was a good day. I worked on the Poem and I didn’t even realize I had already figured one of the clues. It was the last clue I needed. I spent all day looking in my picture archives and there it was. I know it exists but I never got to see it in person. I don’t think many people can see it as well.
        Anyway, The Poem is all about art. Forrest said that “Art is where you find it”. Just like my titletothegold.com website ” It’s where you find it”.

        My thoughts of Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyon down, not, but too far to walk is a painting that I found today. I had that picture for over a year because I really liked it. It had a purpose.

        Well Bob, perhaps now the wife and I can meet you in Santa Fe in June but we still don’t plan to go to the Fennborre. We are going to go look for Randy. I am sure there are a lot of cool rattlesnakes out at that time.

        Geydelkon ” An Indian Scout and A Saint”

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        • geydelkon- meeting me will be a disappointment for you im sure. reading what i write here on the blogs reflects whats on the inside. my outside needs work. youre better off with the rattlesnakes. they are beautiful.

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          • Bob, ummm I don’t go that way..lol ….I have a tough time everyday from all the past injuries I have collected. Its whats in the heart that counts.

            The wife and I are still trying to plan our summer trips. I have been so busy at work, that we are now getting many more new customers.

            So I wrote Dal and asked if he would be interested and posting my thoughts on his website. That was a few days back and haven’t heard form him. I wonder if he sent it to Forrest for his thoughts. If he did I can only guess Forrest did not reply with an answer.

            Anyway, I am not a writer and I wish I could produce a book or two. Currently, I post thoughts that I may go back and tell the story in a planned book.

            So this is what I sent Dal:

            Art is where its at.

            In the “too far to walk book” Forrest says that Art is where you find it. It has always been said that gold is where you find it. I know many of you have looked at my comments and perhaps thought what the heck is he talking about.

            So I have mentioned my avenue to the solve has to do with art. To me it mentions only 9 pieces of art. One piece of art though points to another. I had thought I had a tight solve several months ago but I kept questioning it over and over. Like a shotgun with a hair pin trigger and a 24 shell magazine, I tried and tried to tear it apart. Yet, it kept falling back in line. The first two stanzas seemed to be at face value but I felt something was wrong. I kept asking myself why is the rest of the poem so difficult and yet the first two stanzas seems to be easy. Then I started to think of all the art I had seen here and there.

            Many of you have placed links of your thoughts with many connections to Forrest comments and his life. I went as well to study the information you provided further. Some of you really know how to do your research. I am very impressed on what everyone has found relating to the chase. We as humans beings will always seek the unknown to the nth degree.

            Many of Forrest interventions via media and other websites in the chase does require to stop and analyze his words. I really like many of his comments especially the one I was born 100 years too late. Well, the first piece of art and to the last piece of art that I had identified is exactly 100 years. He said look at the big picture there are no short cuts. Well, he is right according to one mans depiction. I can go on and on and give you my interpretations of what he has said. Why, because its all about imagination.

            So I have been giving out many interpretations to what the clues are. I don’t know if anyone considered any of them. Yet only consider who Mr. Fenn was and who he is today. Do not cross outside the boundaries of his life because his life is what he truly knows.

            So perhaps you are thinking, does he know what the nine clues are. Well, these are just my interpretations and just like with all art there is only one common connection and that is the date and everyone has there say.

            Even the bronze chest is art. Its all about art.

            Thanks for your time.

            Geydelkon

            “An Indian Scout and A Saint”

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  58. bob:
    Wolf I agree, great people….in no particular order-

    Anna
    Argus33
    Astree
    Bur
    Chris Yates
    Deb
    (second vowel capitalized asterisk)
    Forrest
    Geydelkon
    Halogetter
    Inthechaseto
    JC1117
    Jdiggins
    Lia
    Luckydog
    Marie
    Mike
    MJ
    Musstag
    Seeker
    Spallies
    UA
    VGBoss
    Wolf
    Zelda
    49 dollers

    Hey Thanks Bob for including me on your list, you deserve to find the treasure. 🙂

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  59. Hello All,

    I hope everyone is doing well. I know I will stay drawn until the end of the chase.

    Unfortunately, I will not be attending the Fenborree. I am sure everyone will have a grand old time. On June 3rd, I will be going on my last trip to where the bracelet is located. Later there may be a twist this story.

    Good luck.

    Geydelkon ” An Indian Scout and A Saint”

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  60. here’s what i got so far for the A-Team mission statement;

    “It is the mission of the A-Team to provide searchers and enthusiasts with the whereabouts of Forrest Fenn’s treasure chest, treasure, chest, ideas and knowledge that meet their needs.
    Our friendly, professional staff will help inspire,educate,entertain and problem solve for our customers.” *

    *excluding bronze box.

    I feel this an important part of my exhibit at Fennboree.

    I see Fennboree as more of a seminar rather than Jamboree. because nobody is really sure FF himself will show up. I will leave a very small footprint at Fennboree. sure, Dal has a large following so his camp will be crowded. Stephanie too with all her chase chatterers. but I’m bringing substance. less talk and more action- i’m bringing the geocache i found at Rescue Creek in Yellowstone. yes, i stole it. it’s not a real geocache anyway because it was never listed on the geocaching website. nobody had signed the logbook. I think Dal has replaced that geocache, but i’m not sure. I will tell people how to find it as it is separate from the one at west yellowstone.
    also, i’m bringing the Skippy peanut butter jar I found at Lamar River Canyon. both of these items will be on display at my table. this is A-Team caliber stuff. nobody else has anything close. i’ll have photos as well to back up my claims.

    also, i’m working on securing Dr. Scholl’s as the A-Team’s exclusive sponsor.

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    • I am glad to hear that at least one A-team member will attend, I have always thought the A-team blog was the fine out there. Good people, fun people, and great thinkers.

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      • Wolf I agree, great people….in no particular order-

        Anna
        Argus33
        Astree
        Bur
        Chris Yates
        Deb
        (second vowel capitalized asterisk)
        Forrest
        Geydelkon
        Halogetter
        Inthechaseto
        JC1117
        Jdiggins
        Lia
        Luckydog
        Marie
        Mike
        MJ
        Musstag
        Seeker
        Spallies
        UA
        VGBoss
        Wolf
        Zelda
        49 dollers

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  61. What colour is a daffodil?

    Hi everyone,
    I just thought I would stop by and remind everyone that April is Daffodil month in Canada, supporting those living with cancer.

    I have posted an update on my blog as this is the last month that I will be accepting donations for the Canadian Cancer Society (cancer research).

    Thank you to all who have purchased my book Finding Forrest Fenn (all revenue received goes directly to cancer research) and to those who have donated directly.

    www.findingfenn.com/#!Cancer-Mont…d402fe82ab

    Lets join the fight!

    Thank you all for supporting cancer research!

    The Wolf

    I have included some reader feedback as well for those who are interested.

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    • Hello Wolf, thanks for assisting with cancer research. I just purchased the kindle version of your book thru Amazon. Spring arrived early in the low country. Our daffodils have already bloomed and are waiting on Forrest’s wild boars to arrive and eat the dead ones. According to Mindys latest post wild boars were revered by the Vikings of Fenland. Boy are they nasty looking…wild boars, not the Vikings 😉

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      • Thank you Lia for supporting cancer research and I am sure you will enjoy the book and you might even recognize some of the hints I planted in there as well since you have a good understanding of recent events!

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    • I’m new to the hunt just finding out about this a few weeks ago but I believe I’m pretty good at this kind of stuff and I’m excited about my interpretation of the poem and Mr. Finn’s treasure . I believe the key to successfully hiding something truthfully is Miss direction . I believe the treasure is in or near the Waters of the Madison But not really . Heading out in a few weeks , super excited. Thanks for the new adventure Forest Fenn.

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      • Hi Mike welcome to the chase!

        I agree with your intuition but if you are going to have any success in this adventure you are going to have to follow that intuition.

        i.e. The Madison is the misdirection. You see most anyone searching in Montana has been attracted to that location and looks like a golfer colony!

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      • Try Eagles Nest Lake. I think warm water halts at Aqua fria rd in Santa Fe to canyon rd,perhaps by train, then I think via the veteran highway to stop at the house of brown is the Taos pueblo, below no place for the meek refers to kit Carson rd, perhaps referring to Joseph meek and his adventures with Carson running into Indians, as you travel down this road you pass acequia del sur, which are canals, perhaps referring to high water and heavy loads, then eventually the blaze I think is the veterans memorial at Angel Fire. Eagles nest lake is just down the road, marvel gaze perhaps referring to the Eagles gaze in The Eagle’s Gaze in the Opening of Heliodorus’ Aithiopika. Being brave and in the wood I believe refers to Tarhe, an Indian but I’m not sure how to tie it in.

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  62. Wow, Forrest really laid into Dal today on the new thread “Loving it to death”
    I wouldnt be surprised if Dal bans Forrest from posting. maybe that will send ol FF over here to Mikes. I thought i was bad but woweee!

    somebody give me a heads up if he does.

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      • thanks Gey. hey what if this debate by FF and Dal is just a little something they put together to show they aint in cahoots.

        actually, im grateful for trash left by folks 100 years ago. its fun to find.

        maybe i’ll leave something for someone to find 100 years from now. next time i’m at yellowstone. I’ll pay the ranger as i enter the park for littering.

        I’m banned from Dal’s again. he said i needed to be relevant. and not use multiple personalities. so, I posted using the name “Relevant” and talked to Hunch. of course that post went up in flames, and not because I mentioned the blaze. lol

        yer stuck with me now Mike.

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        • Yep, best to avoid his blog. I don’t know who keeps doing the moderating but it’s a bit out of control over there. If you don’t butt kiss liberally you won’t get posted.

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          • hi Deb! good to see you here again. are you going to fennboree? i dont have your email adress anymore. lost it when i switched to a laptop instead of iphone.

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          • I don’t know if we are going just to visit. It might be just a day trip for us. It all depends on what’s going on with everyone’s health. Will you be attending?

            My email address is azuredeb at msn dot com. I wondered if you were still around or had moved on to things closer to home? If I lived there I would be watching for storms and walking beaches afterwards.

            Email me sometime ok?

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  63. Iike EC Waters post at Dals on Yellowstone. thats definitely where warm waters halt. the place to begin looking for the treasure chest. and after youve worn out a couple pairs of hiking shoes, get in your car and go out the east entrance towards philadelphia. and then stop at Cody, the creek (shoshone river) at the buffalo bill center of the west. just like in TTOTC when cody the buffalo dragged the car into the creek and stopped. thats where youll find the poem chest.

    imagine that.

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  64. bob:
    gey- your take is excellent! i dont have computer skills to do that.
    movies are better than stills. especially talkies.

    Well, did you notice Dals blog just launched a new Where Warm Waters Halt? Furthermore, it is not the first clue. The first clue is “the end is ever drawing nigh” and will always be the first. Think about that one. Got to love Mikes “A” team website. So where is VGBOSS?

    Anyway, look directly south from WWWH and what do you know of the creek?

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    • You might be right, Geydelkon. However, if you believe that “the end is ever drawing nigh” is the first clue then that’s a pretty bold statement.

      That would be like me saying “there’ll be no paddle up your creek” is the first clue…depending on what your definition of up is.

      Add to that Forrest’s comment about stanza 2 having what “sounds like 3 or 4 clues” and you have yourself a humdinger of a riddle which desperately needs to be reconciled. Well…perhaps not desperately…but the A-team has that kind of passion, I reckon. 🙂

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    • Gey, Bob & JC1117, it’s nice to see your familiar faces here. Loved the friendship clip from Jungle Book – one of my favorite movies. I keep getting moderated at Dal’s and MW’s which makes me feel like TLGFWyo. Anyway, I could use your friendly help with the following 2 issues creating impasses to moving forward with my solutions:
      I always enjoy reading others paths of logic and appreciate your intelligent ideas. . This is ALL MY OPINION. “What if” the poem requires solving to 4 different locations to bake the treasure cake?

      If 9 sentences = 9 clues (+ my supposition: the poem solves to 4 Fenn locations) equating to 9 sentences solved X4 yielding 36 clues to be solved correctly to bake the cake. This all lines up nicely with Forrest the surveyor – 36 section delineations per township.

      Discussion #1: Is my idea plausible? IMO we’re not looking at one “Fubix cube” but 4 of them…Fubix, Slubix, Pulix & Krubix…to which I say YIKES!! I’m not implying it’s more difficult than believed to throw anyone off. I fell out of bed and hit the floor hard when I realized the poem “may” imply 4 solvutions. Folks need to work the poem and come to their own conclusions. I’m just asking for assistance ‘reasoning through’ my own suppositions.

      Discussion #2: “IF” the title, trove, chest, or treasure (4) are hidden on private lands set up under corporate names registered through multiple attorney’s and/or trustees, would that make recovery illegal and impossible due to trespassing? IMO, yes. It appears like a catch 22. Without permission from the owner, who you cannot gain permission from, you can’t recover on said property. (Trustees cannot disclose info, and Forrest has said he won’t confirm information). How would one confirm that Forrest Fenn is behind the trustee, and behind the articles of incorporation. State laws in New Mexico, Wyoming, and Montana (don’t know about CO) are set up to absolutely protect identity. Trustees have similar legal obligations for non-disclosure.

      With Forrest still alive (Thank Goodness…may God grant he and Peggy many more good years) If one sent the correct solution asking for his express permission, would Forrest confirm it and grant permission??

      Has this been asked?

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      • hi Lia! i’ll tackle the easy question first…”has this been asked?”

        in a roundabout way i think it has, and the easiest answer to all your questions is-
        IN MY OPINION, everybody hear that?
        nobody gets anything until after he dies. he’s created a game for his lifetime.

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        • Bob, you may be correct. I’ve considered the possibility myself – a rich man’s game to keep himself entertained as he watches searchers fumbling in the dark, sunllight, or their imaginations for solutions 🙂 LOLOL
          If that’s his game, my hat’s off to Fenn for creating his own amusement, remaining relevant as an octogenarian, and firmly planting his name in history. Way to go Fenn! You’ve done it! Maybe that’s what “it” is? Did someone say both Dal and Stephanie quit searching?

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          • I don’t think Stephanie has stopped searching, she just isn’t talking about it anymore. I don’t know about Dal.

            Bob, glad to see you around. I have been keeping to myself mostly.

            I am always happy to see Forrest posting in whatever form he chooses . He has so many new searchers now I am sure it’s keeping him occupied. So many questions to dosey doh around.lol

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      • Hello, Lia. You have some great ideas there. Maybe The Poem is layered…like a parfait! Or maybe like an onion…but…you know…not everybody likes onions. The thought about The Poem being multi-layered has crossed my mind before. That’s certainly an avenue/canyon/river worth exploring.

        I must admit that I was pleasantly surprised by your use of the word “pulix”…instead of being spelled with a letter b…like the other words in your list.

        For a split second I imagined a cube-shaped puzzle where the object is to line up blond/brown/red/black/gray/silver curly hairs.

        Like “Fubix Cube”…but with a P. 🙂

        Sorry about that. My imagination is a little TOO wild sometimes.

        But on a serious note…I wholeheartedly agree with you and pray that Forrest and Peggy are granted MANY more years of Peace and Love…together…here with us.

        And regarding Forrest granting permission? That question is WAY out in left field!

        I would Love to Know…but I haven’t got a clue.

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        • As for you JC1117, your imagination needs editing. I’m a lady and would prefer you share those thoughts somewhere else. Show some class to the A-team here. You just posted Bible verses, and went directly into areas gentlemen don’t discuss. You are a confusing blogger; even though I like you.

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          • Scolding gladly accepted, Lia. I knew I deserved it…and even saw it coming. That’s why I already apologized after I wrote it. 🙂

            But I’m not too prideful to say it again.

            I am sorry.

            Laugh or cry, man. Laugh or cry.

            “Confusing blogger” you say?

            I sure hope so.

            p.s. I like you, too.

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          • yeah JC! those thoughts belong in the Lounge. come on I’m buying. i never could finish the painted cube, maybe I’ll do better with a hairy one.

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    • That is sad news, Bob. Thanks for sharing the info. That kind of info is always newsworthy. Hunch was always good for a story or opinion. It’s sad to think those days are over.

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      • JC- dont be sad. the death of a hunch is a good thing. whatever the thought was either true or false, when the hunch dies, we now know the identity of that hunch.

        most of hunch’s ideas were true.

        this is cause to celebrate. it was the last hunch that hunch posted that killed him. i guess in a way, all hunches strive to commit suicide.

        lol

        champagne for everyone!
        hooray!

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    • more news from Dal’s-
      now little inkling has been nuked. poor thing. why would they allow a little 10-year old girl from India on Dal’s blog and not a 10- year old from
      Cody?

      i guess the girl from Cody was too close for comfort and cuddles.

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      • That’s very curious, Bob. Someone over there didn’t like her upsetting the apple cart. I’ll have to go read up and see what she did to deserve that. Surely, she must have done something.

        Although…sometimes when I try to see what’s the hubbub I can’t quite seem to get to the bottom of it…or understand it.

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          • gey- i cant provide a link. its at Dal’s blog. a drawing submitted for the t-shirt contest by a little girl from India. check it out.

            her family is having lunch at the treasure chest.

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        • JC- i forgot to tell you what she said to get nuked. i didnt write it down but she was commenting on scrapbook 151 the one about stars and said she was learning about stars in science class. and how sailors used them to navigate. and in english class, she learned that the asterisk is used in writing to help the reader navigate. another star.

          and, that she walks to school.

          whats the big deal?
          heel,toe,heel,toe. feet is bad.

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  65. bob:
    I have suspected for a long time that FF and Dal are in cahoots and here is the proof….from Dals blog on Odds and Ends, Feb 19 Forrest says….”We are getting a lot of mileage from that little girl from India, doncha think?”

    WE is the key word here. as in team.

    for your eyes only A-team.

    it also suggests the little girl from India and her drawing are fabrications.

    if anyone at Dals noticed this they are keeping quiet about it.
    Sure seems that way so far… I thought I saw one say something, or maybe I did not, cant remember…

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  66. I have suspected for a long time that FF and Dal are in cahoots and here is the proof….from Dals blog on Odds and Ends, Feb 19 Forrest says….”We are getting a lot of mileage from that little girl from India, doncha think?”

    WE is the key word here. as in team.

    for your eyes only A-team.

    it also suggests the little girl from India and her drawing are fabrications.

    if anyone at Dals noticed this they are keeping quiet about it.

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      • that saying doesnt work for me JC…..there would be no chase if not for quarry. im always a little upset when i come home empty handed. whether it be fishing, hunting,chasing women, a few extra dollars, or even something as small as forgetting an item at the grocery store.

        im all about the quarry buddy. the chase at times can be a nuisance.

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      • and here’s another thing JC….you wanna talk about it’s all about the chase? OK then when you find the quarry, leave it alone. dont bring it home with you. how thrilling would that be?
        your walls would be bare.

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        • Good point, Bob. If I was ever to find the quarry I would certainly grab it. I won’t lie.

          www.fairtraderesource.org/uploads/2010/06/Interrupcion-Banana-Smile-1024×613.jpg

          It certainly IS about the quarry as far as I’m concerned. A good lifelong chase is often facilitated by a good quarry. I’m sure that Forrest knows that…which is why he wants to give someone that opportunity.

          So that means that Forrest must have some deeper meaning about the chase and the quarry. Hmmm.

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          • But each person must look inside himself (herself) …or into the mirror …to find what “quarry” means to them.

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          • Look at it 180, maybe. Fenn is the one chasing after the “quarry”, fishing for him or her with his golden lure.
            Apparently that fish doesn’t want to bite. See scrapbook 118, Montana golden fish.., maybe.

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          • JC- well I spent a long time looking in my mirror to find out what my quarry was and couldn’t see it. so I took the mirror to a mirror shop thinking it was broken. the guy said the problem was its a vanity mirror. He sold me a new mirror. I’ll try again after I wash my face.

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    • VG Boss- where have you been? researching I suppose. and your research has led you to believe the treasure is wet per sponge bob. but what about the chest? is it wet too? what about the bronze box? is it wet? football season is over so now you can focus on feet. perhaps an appearance on dancing with the stars?that most certainly requires fancy footwork.

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    • Hey VG! It’s good to see you’re still alive and looking for treasures! I enjoyed the video. I’m assuming that “really dangerous” toys like that one are only found where other “really dangerous” toys are found…in Germany. You know…like Kinder Surprise Eggs. :/

      It’s good that the US government is there to protect us from these dangers. God only knows what would happen to us if they were NOT protecting us all the time.

      I mean…somebody could smash their finger trying to get into one of those Spongebob Treasure Chests. God forbid.

      It’s a good thing that the video creator brought the right tool for the job. @1:00 “But like…if zats not enough…I have a REAL hammer. ha ha.” 🙂

      Can you imagine that guy showing up at your house one day and asking, “What should we talk about?”

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gSKIQEU8qc

      Thanks, but no thanks. 🙂

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  67. whats this Fennboree thing all about? i guess they put Fenn in place of Jam and came up with Fennboree. well im not going. i checked the definition of Jamboree and its a boisterous celebration. what in the hell is there to celebrate? nobody has the bronze box. we got a man missing, Dal quit searching, Stephanie has quit searching as far as I can tell. i suppose they can all get boisterous and brag about their solutions to the poem which are incorrect by the way. i dont get it.
    I’ll go if Geydelkon and I are invited as guests of honor. but, nobody would believe us. and to top it all off, the guy they named the jamboree after MIGHT make an appearance. MIGHT? lol if ol man Fenn dont show up i’d want my money back.
    i can see hangin out with the A-team and desertpile around a campfire, tellin tall tales, drinking beer and spittin. that would be OK. i aint got much use for the rest of em.

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    • Oh, c’mon, Bob! It’ll be fun. I really hope I get the chance to go this year. Everyone is invited. I got my invitation. It was a singing telegram delivered to my front door! Can you believe that? It was awesome. 🙂

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_LHyx2odc

      It would certainly be great if Forrest could drop by and say hello…and maybe tell stories by the campfire.

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      • hey everyone! JC1117 is Steve Martin!
        wow. i been talking to a celeb this whole time…good thing ive been on my worst behavior.
        i cant picture you at Fennboree though steve, uh, uh, i mean JC.

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  68. Fundamental Guidelines has sucked all the Indiana Jones right out of me.

    Indiana Jones: “I cant believe we’re risking our lives for toilet paper!”
    Donald Parks: “Leave no outhouse unplundered.”

    Indiana Jones: “Cold enough for ya?”
    Sophia Hapgood: “Even colder than my feelings toward you Dr. Jones.”

    Willie: “Aren’t you going to introduce us?”
    Lao Che: “This is Willie Scott, this is Indiana Jones a famous archaeologist.”
    Willie: “Well I always thought that archaeologists were funny looking men going around looking for their mommies.”
    Indiana Jones: “Mummies.”

    Mutt Williams: “I don’t understand, why the legend about the city of gold?”
    Indiana Jones: “The Ugha word for gold translates as “treasure” but their treasure wasn’t gold….it was knowledge. knowledge was their treasure.”

    Short Round: “What is Sankara?”
    Indiana Jones: “fortune and glory kid, fortune and glory.”
    Willie: “You’re gonna get killed chasing after your damn fortune and glory!”
    Indiana Jones: “maybe….but not today.”

    Im OK now.

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  69. fundamental guidelines on Dals blog…..oh boy i like this one!

    im confident we can throw these lines out of the poem as misdirection;

    no place for meek
    effort worth the cold
    brave and in the wood
    heavy loads water high

    and where warm waters halt does not mean frozen.

    for me this is more confirmation of the Draper museum as being the location of the chest in question.

    im first, Geydelkon second.
    who wants third place?

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    • Sign me up, Bob! I’ll take third. I’ll be happy just to be on that train. First…second…third…it doesn’t really matter to me. Once you’re on board the train all the views are pretty much the same for everyone…and everyone reaches the same destination. The Engineer is really the only One on the train with the Best View of All…and His course is set. 🙂

      I hope you’re having a good day, Bob.

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkTQri3a4Gg

      Peace Out!

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      • JC- there is no signing you up. you have to take the chest, a photo that is… a still. and go in peace. so far Geydelkon and I are the only ones to have done it.

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  70. is Forrest responsible for the disappearance of this Randy dude?

    I say no! Forrest is responsible for his APPEARANCE! Randy would not have been in the area in which he was lost had it not been for the treasure hunt. none of us searchers ever would have known of Randy had he not become a searcher himself. and just like reporters who go to places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria or any other nation hostile to westerners and get themselves killed, Randy is ultimately responsible for his own safety. until the body is found he is considered a missing person, no more than that. i never met Randy, dont know anything about him but it seems he has used poor judgement for himself and the safety of his little dog. based on this i probably wouldnt care to keep company with Randy. its always the actions of the few that ruin things for everyone.
    ive stopped holding my breath for Randy, and as the self proclaimed antagonist of this treasure hunt am maintaining an image.

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  71. I helped look for Randy, it is sad and mysterious situation. Hopefully he is found, I think he will be in the lake.
    Fenn says he will not end the chase, since so many people have invested so much time and all…
    My feeling is that Fenn cannot end the chase because HE has too much riding on it. He can’t buy someone’s ticket to heaven if he pulls his money off the table.

    Really, why is the box there? No one just tosses out 2mil for fun, even if they are crazy.
    What’s the catch, because there has to be one…

    Sorry if I am offending any true believers.

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    • This is very sad news indeed.
      My spidy senses must have been in active. On Jan 3rd the day before he went missing I had a sudden urge to send Dal just one more instalment of my book (I had told myself I was finished).

      Dal refused to post it because he felt it was too controversial. The ironic part of the story is that it was an instance where I took a chance by going to far in a search and in the news that night a man went missing in Montana and had to be rescued by helicopter. I remember that day very well for it was the first time I wanted anyone to find the chest and I even wrote Fenn after that moment and told him we need to end the chase. This was a portion of my story:

      “The hike was sublime even though the wet snow caused Alex to slip on a rock and hurt his elbow. After reaching the waterfall, what “gold fever” can do to a searcher’s mind, became apparent. Normally, I would stop at the base and simply take in the view, but the awestruck searcher in me demanded, “go to the top and look for the blaze!” So I did, and then it dawned on me why the national parks, especially Yellowstone, are now outlawing treasure hunters… they take unnecessary risks! This explained quite clearly why I have a job in search and rescue, and I was ashamed that I did not follow my own advice – stay safe and know your limits.”

      I have been in search and rescue all my life and I have seen this too many times and I have preached continuously:
      1. Don’t search alone
      2. Leave a detailed plan of where you are going each day and when you will check in.
      3. Carry survival equipment and signally devices such as PLBs/satellite phones
      4. Don’t take unnecessary chances – know your limits!

      The Wolf

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  72. “When they tell you it isn’t real, remember, it’s still real.” -FF at Mysterious Writings

    “still real”

    What does that sound like?
    “Steel rail”

    Naw, he couldn’t be hint to railroad again? I guess I should “halt” right there!

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    • wolf- Still Real was a famous old brand of moonshine more commonly known as rot gut or red eye. popular among miners, fur trappers. no, i seriously did not just make that up.

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      • Hello, Bob.

        You know, Real Stills are becoming more and more popular these days. They were outlawed for a long time…but that never stopped anybody.

        You know what they say…when the law-going gets rough…the outlaws get going…or something like that.

        Besides…”It’s part of the American cultural heritage”.

        www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/world/moonshine-legal-golden-age/

        The new legal market is taking the appeal away from bootlegging…but not the OTHER stop-that-or-you’ll-go-blind pastime. 🙂

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      • Wolf, bob, JC1117
        I wondered how long it would take someone to bring up (liquor) “stills.” One line of f’s poem includes backwards…reeving gin warders. Natural segway to silver “bullet”, magnum, or tin beer cans – remember f’s tin can art scrapbook. Maybe there’s something to it.
        My great grandfather was a bootlegger in Great Falls Mt during prohibition with a tobacco shop as a front.

        And how about Spanish “Real” coins.

        Who is they? That’s easy, after 2 1/2 years of flossing with crow feathers, they is my family & friends.

        Btw JC1117 – I enjoyed your heart stilling posts, tell Focussed that sometimes even homely girl’s hearts flutter. LOL ;))

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        • And…given ff’s friendship with so many movie stars…we could add to the “real” list…movie stills and reels.
          What do movies and their leading actors have in common? trailers, LOL:-)
          I’ll bet Bart the Bear II wants one like Brutus already has.

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        • It’s good to hear from you, Anna.

          Put me down for a double-wide trailer. Ah, heck…make it two double-wides. I’m stackin’ one trailer on top of the other to make an awesome two-story.

          I’ll be the king of the trailer park…a tornado magnet! Talk about going in style! 🙂

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        • Hello JC1117, nice to connect with you as well;-) although I’m brain dead from insomnia. So, no new chase ideas other than a hilarious idea that if f had a movie trailer he could name it Pegasus to match Sloane’s omega line drawing and of course the white lightening mythology & gin theme. Laughed out loud at that one around 4 am when it hit me like a 42lb brick. Also like the implication of that mythical horse representing a well spring where ones life started.

          Played with “indulgence” too which yields a plethora of anagram possibilities and words inside words…dun, gin, dueling guns, gin den, cudgel, and let’s not forget
          “nicely dung”

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  73. I have a new subject to think about. The bracelet Forrest wants back. Something about it is just not right. I will think about for awhile now, because that’s all I have to do. Back to my pictures.

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  74. Happy New Year’s All

    Hey Bob, have you been keeping up with my post on the other blog sites? They are difficult to understand but not impossible to where the treasure is located. Some call it geydelkonology.

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  75. Happy New Year’s All

    Hey Bob, have you been keeping up with my post on the other blog sites? They are difficult to understand but not impossible to where the treasure is located. Some call it geydelkonology.

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  76. Thank you – each and everyone of you – for your kindness during this change in my life. It’s nice to know that we have a caring team of good people here – and all your comments have helped me.

    I can’t seem to concentrate and will be taking a break from the blogs for awhile….I hope to be back soon.

    Hugs to all and have a Very Merry Christmas !!!

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  77. Some of you here – know that my Mom past away just 15 days ago.

    This morning my husband and my hunting partner walked outside to fix a leaking hot water heater and was gone about 10 mins when a neighbor knock on my door and told me he was down on the ground outside. We gave him CPR – the para medics did all they could by he could not be revived. He was 63.

    Life is so precious and you never know when your times up. If all of us could learn to live each day as our last – how great this world would be.

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    • Wow, into that is rough. My deepest sympathy. I hope you have plenty of loving family and friends to support you in this painful time. I will be praying for you and sending you ministering angels to help you in this time of sadness.

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    • I’m praying for you, also, Into. Life is indeed short and precious. One of my good friends from high school died a few months back. He died of natural causes. His wife found him lifeless on the floor. It can happen to any one of us. I find comfort knowing that I will see all of my loved ones again one day. Death is not the end.

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    • Into… I don’t know what to say except my thoughts are with you and you are right we never know what life is going to hand us… I like to believe like JK that we will run into our loved ones once again… Our hearts will know how to find each other…

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    • I am so sorry to hear this,Into. I hope you will be with people who love you . There is nothing I can say that will make this better for you. I will be thinking about you. Peace be with you, always.

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  78. into:
    Ahhh… Take care and don’t work too hard Gey –

    Searchers meeting sounds fun ……… will wait for news.

    It was good few days. I really take pride in my work. It is very important for me to do my best knowing it always has a positive outcome. There are those who watch me from a distance with now worries and perhaps no cares. I have dreamed the dream and I am happy at where am but I need to go back and help those who need to be known. I was thinking about my wife today but in still memory where she stands with the blaze to her back and her gentle face peering into the sun.
    Yes, it was a good few days.

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  79. Geydelkon:
    I had to come back and look at my answer”Something old”.I thought about it all day and laughed at times. That was a thought out of the blue. Sometimes I just say and do things like that. Some call me a nut without walking papers.

    So let me explain a little onhow well I figured the line that is key to from where I stand. ” I can keep my secret where and hint of riches new and old”.

    I can only say that “new and old” have to be in that order for the poem to work.The poem will not work if it was “old and new”. I can see a treasure in the distance to where it is hidden IMO.

    Have a great day tomorrow everyone. We are getting snow in Colorado Springs. Went to work today and got a lot accomplished. I love the detective work in technology. Going in for a few hours tomorrow. I work best when it is quiet. Allows me to do some deep thinking. I got to post some pictures of my crazy world.

    /*•. Gey, new and old has to be in that order…’Newandold’ for the magic “wand” to appear in the middle pointing NE /*•. Like your avatar! And then, there are f’s 4 Old named grandkids.

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    • LOL! Typical Fennspeak, Into. It can mean PRECISELY something or PROBABLY nothing. Oh!…IMO. 🙂

      It all depends on how adventurous you want to be. Got snowshoes? Or dynamite?

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      • Hi JC –

        I just about quit when I saw that – so contradictory of what he said before – which was stop your engines. Oh well I do remember him also saying don’t pay attention to anything but the poem and the book. I know one thing – my spot is still clear of snow – but I’m not going – it’s too cold. I really do wish you’d find it. 🙂

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        • That’s very kind of you to say, Into. Allow me to humbly and sincerely reciprocate by saying that I wish you would find it, also.

          I agree that it is very cold out there…and there is definitely snow at my spot. It is well above 5000 feet for crying out loud …or even sobbing quietly for that matter. Mother Nature and I have a love/hate relationship. I Love Her…and She hates me. 🙂

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          • hey JC, i think mother nature has that relationship will all humans. we are not supposed to be here. if i wrote a book on the subject i would call it….”cheeseburgers don’t grow on trees”

            i think it was jesus who said…birds have their nests and foxes have holes but the son of man has nowhere to lay his head.

            mother nature provides for the ones she loves and works slowly, quietly to eliminate the unworthy. i guess the dinosaurs really messed up.

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        • into- too cold not going?
          tell me your spot, I’ll go.
          we’ll split it 50-50. you get 50 bucks and i get 50 bucks and the box of trinkets.

          effort worth the cold
          effort worth the cold
          effort worth the cold

          nobody gets it.

          this is when the blaze is obvious.
          there is no blaze in the summer.

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          • I had to come back and look at my answer”Something old”. I thought about it all day and laughed at times. That was a thought out of the blue. Sometimes I just say and do things like that. Some call me a nut without walking papers.

            So let me explain a little on how well I figured the line that is key to from where I stand. ” I can keep my secret where and hint of riches new and old”.

            I can only say that “new and old” have to be in that order for the poem to work. The poem will not work if it was “old and new”. I can see a treasure in the distance to where it is hidden IMO.

            Have a great day tomorrow everyone. We are getting snow in Colorado Springs. Went to work today and got a lot accomplished. I love the detective work in technology. Going in for a few hours tomorrow. I work best when it is quiet. Allows me to do some deep thinking. I got to post some pictures of my crazy world.

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    • Into, yes the treasure is not very far off the winding road. There are times one might use a 4 wheel drive but most times it is clear except for tomorrow the chest will have snow on it.

      So now with my recent comments here on the great website of Mikes….who wants to fund my gas money? 🙂

      I have given away 6 The Thrill of the Chase books signed by FF so far. I tell each of the owners of the book I had given them of what it is worth if I find the treasure. Just having fun.

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  80. Last night while searching on Ebay for items that I feel that are related to the poem, I thought I would search words that are key. Since, I do believe Forrest uses subtle hints in all of his scrapbooks and comments. Anyway, in one of the scrapbooks ( dalneitzel.com/tag/red-ryder/ ) I just couldn’t make anything fit. Then on simple search I found the connection right there on Ebay. I showed my wife the ad and the title was perfect fit and she was smiling.
    So to all my fellow searches, now that winter is here, research is best with a warm drink and a snack. Just take pride in all you do and work hard.

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  81. I recommend this movie.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoebZZ8K5N0&w=560&h=315

    Hugh Glass (c. 1780–1833) was an American fur trapper and frontiersman noted for his exploits in the American West during the first third of the 19th century.

    Glass was born in Pennsylvania, to parents who were from Ireland of Scottish descent.[1][2] An explorer of the watershed of the Upper Missouri River in present-day North Dakota, South Dakota and Montana, Glass is best known as a frontier folk hero for his legendary cross-country trek after being mauled by a grizzly bear.

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  82. Well, I had a rough day of most days today. Does that sound right? I have been battling something, but I am too hard headed to go to the doc. So talking to myself here has also helped me set my mind to the next ascension. So how am I suppose to put it all together? I think I will get there once I turn the corner.
    Now lets see what is on Netfix, drama, sci-fi, action ….ah yes cowboys stories.

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    • Good Evening Gey –

      Are you stubborn ? Is that why you won’t go to the doc ? If pro athletes can play hurt and sacrifice themselves for the team, you ought to be able to suck it up, right? Wrong! The Game of Life is about staying healthy for a long time – a lifetime.

      If you didn’t watch “Dancing with the Stars” – you missed a good one. But – it’s going to be on again tomorrow night and you can see the grand finale’.

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      • Good Morning America,

        I really don’t look forward. I have my grasshoppers to take control if something were to happen. I willed that way. I do what I need to do and to know that I can help save lives everyday. Being in the MRI business, many medical centers depend on me to keep there MRI up and running.

        Sometimes I dance with the stars in the lab when things have something to say. Yet, I can say a few things quit loud. I was trained that way.

        I don’t have cable TV , because one it is too expensive and two its still a waste of money for whats on schedule. Perhaps, My nose is buried deep in research looking at numbers in sets of three at least.

        Well, after when all the stars are gone, I may need to sweep the floor pretty good.

        Well back to the grind.

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        • gey- dont get me started on cable TV…too late here I go- does anybody remember the reason we bought cable tv when it first came out? no? we bought it because they said since you are paying for the service there will be no commercials!! then guess what happened…once everyone was addicted to cable they started selling commercial airtime. bait and switch. i canceled my service and havent had it since about 1989. my antenna collects and delivers about all the nonsense i can handle.

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