No Place for Biddies-1

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  1. here are the two old biddies largely responsible for the creation of the Buffalo Bill Center of the West.
    Mary Jester Allen
    Gertrude Vanderbilt (yes those Vanderbilts) Whitney

    they lived in brick houses and WERE better than everyone else.

    merry christmas

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  2. …”And as far as running away from home was concerned, no kids ever did that back then because they just didn’t. Those things came later when girls started making trouble.”

    That girl was Dorothy Gale

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    • Bob –

      I have put together a synopsis of the Wizard Of Oz – to include Dorothy Gale – I have placed ( ) around my input.                   Please make a note that most people FF has in the chase began their quests when they were very young – a few exceptions.

      Dorothy Gale was a very young girl, about age 12 who lived at the end of the 19th century, in a one-room farmhouse on the Kansas prairie with her Uncle Henry and Aunt Em. (Brown?) They were farmers living “in the middle” (hint)of a drought: times were hard.(maybe a flood is hard too – pole to pole) Dorothy was the light in their dingy, color(hint)less world.

      After being whisked away in her house by a tornado, she was set down in the mysterious land of Oz, which was ruled by an equally mysterious wizard who lived in the City of Emeralds (hint)at the geographical (hint) center (or in the middle)(hint) of Oz. Under the belief that the wizard would be able to send her home, Dorothy set out for the City of Emeralds. During her time in Oz, Dorothy proved to be very strong and brave,(hint) acting as a force for good and by her actions, sometimes intentional and sometimes not, making Oz a better place.

      The wizard, however, had no true power, leaving Dorothy and her friends to find another solution for her return to Kansas. In the end they journeyed to the Quadling Country and met Glinda, who told Dorothy of the power of the Silver Shoes(hint) the girl had taken from the Wicked Witch of the East.

      Dorothy would later return to Oz on numerous occasions, where she would be crowned as an Ozian princess by the Great Princess Ozma, (not Obama) and eventually, together with her Uncle and Aunt, given permanent residency in Oz.

      Dorothy is the young heroine of L. Frank Baum’s Oz stories, best known in modern pop culture for her portrayal by Judy Garland (hint) in the 1939 classic.

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      • Inthechaseto- yeah? So where is the bronze box?
        Oh please tell us! I’m lost. Over the rainbow? Ok, where is that? Lol
        See you in Santa Fe in October inthechaseto!
        Thanks for your input. I’m on the 1,000 year wagon. Well, make that 996 year, we got 4 under our belts.
        (Sigh)

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  3. “They laughed real hard and didn’t even care who heard”

    I think the poem line…hear me all and listen good fits this chapter. Maybe.

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  4. Can somebody who can post on Dals blog let Stephanie know that I have a business card for the law firm of Dewey, Cheatem and Howe. If she needs it.

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    • Bob – Sometimes I don’t “listen good”,…did you say,…Do we Cheat’em and How!…? Why didn’t you post this on the Searcher(s) of the Year thread? Oh,…right,…No Place for Biddies-1,…that’s a better one. 🙂

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      • Kym- click and clack! The tappet brothers! I luv em too!

        Click- “welcome to car tawk, what’s the problem lady?”

        Lady- ” I have a 1995 toyoda that won’t start”

        Clak- “I’m guessing this cah was given to you by a loved one, correct?”

        Lady- “well..yeah”

        Click, clak- “haw, haw, haw… On my gawd, were you taken for a ride! Hee hee hee!! Or maybe not! If it won’t start, you can’t get to work!! Ha ha ha! And you might lose your job!!! Hee Hee !!! And if you lose your job, you can’t make your mortgage payment!! Ha ha ho Ho Ho !!! Is that right lady ??

        Lady- “yeah, that’s pretty much it. Can you help me?”

        Click- “sure, we can help!”
        Clack- “as soon as we stop laughing about your perilous predicament!”

        HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!

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  5. inthechaseto:

    What I am talking about is so very important to the chase as it carry’s on thru out the book.

    Do you all see what has happened here.In the last couple of hours – collectively we have found so many new things in this drawing – perhaps because you wanted to be the one to find what I was talking about first.Three years of searching and still new discoveries.To motivate is amazing.

    You still haven’t found what I was talking about.

    counting repeats, there are a total of 5 drawings that

    have the 6 and 1 pattern. and the 1 is on the right side of all 6, and always taller/larger than the 6

    the pages are 21, 29, 31, 109, 111

    there is also 6 and 1 on pages 51, 37, and 41 but they dont fit so neatly into the same patterns

    page 51 ….the 1 is not clearly larger than the 6

    and also, among the 6 there is one with a major difference (not minor like the other drawings) one is a dog and the rest are human

    pages 37 and 41 the 1 is not to the right of all others

    also it is not clear if you can make 6 and 1 w/o changing some rules like with the small dog. page 37 is 6 and 1 if you count the cross. page 41 is 6 and 1 if you dont count the cross, and only count drawn tombstones.

    what would be the significance to 6 and 1? and what about always taller and to the right?

    the 61st word of the poem is ‘ the END is ever …’

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    • the other thing is, page 21 is the first example in the book of this 6 and 1 pattern

      and the first picture of this chapter, no place for biddies, has the right one being tall and he mentions in the story that one of them was taller

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  6. What I am talking about is so very important to the chase as it carry’s on thru out the book.

    Do you all see what has happened here. In the last couple of hours – collectively we have found so many new things in this drawing – perhaps because you wanted to be the one to find what I was talking about first. Three years of searching and still new discoveries. To motivate is amazing.

    You still haven’t found what I was talking about.

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  7. inthechaseto:
    I’ll give you a hint.Remember this is a treasure hunt – and everything is important.
    Expand your mind or you will never find it.

    Inthechaseto Not sure if your talking about the pilers on the chest and the markings on the shirt? Bur

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  8. I haven’t read all that is posted here, but I posted here or on another blog…that I thought the story seems so odd, compared to other stories, in the book. Does not seem important. Yet it must be.

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  9. On page 21………..are you there yet?….ok, I noticed that the two men in the background are mirror images but one without the hat. Do you all see that? Has it been brought up before? Just started reading the book.

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  10. Although it was good to hear Forrest speak of his mother that he loved so much in this chapter, I was never really partial to the Biddies story. Forrest did select it as an excerpt on his website, so perhaps he did favor it or have intents.

    But there are a few items here that I have not heard any comments on, unless I missed it. Perhaps the two biddies are connected to John Charles whatever and his olives, or Jesus Christ (after all, they were at a church social), or some other JC? The earrings. They’re not random squiggles, or repeats, but distinctly J and C.

    A dress covered with clouds makes sense.

    And the Biddie on the right- her left hand. Why does that haunt me like the strange coin on page 131…

    Halogetter

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  11. Woody Bogg:
    NotSoWise I think you’ve fallen off the deep end, Or experienced to many cracks to the head. You have a strange take on this whole thingthat is way off base if you ask me. FF doing what he has done was meant as goodintentions . Did you ever think he did it to maybe change someones life for the betterto keep the finder fromthe constant struggle justto take care of himself or herself and their family.A person could really become the personthey were naturally meant to be without the financial burden changing them into someone else.

    Woody Bogg –

    You just crack me up – LOL Please keep posting – I need someone that makes sense.

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    • Once again there is no need for anyone to insult or degrade another on the blog. Notsowise is entitled to her opinion without the crap handed out to her for her opinion. She was brave enough to state her take on something which is alot braver than many of us. Stop insulting her.

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  12. Yes Woody, I used to think that way when I first started this ttotc. But I can’t help that I am seeing these things differently now than everyone else… how do you know I am wrong and you are right?

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    • NotSoWise:
      Yes Woody, I used to think that way when I first started this ttotc. But I can’t help that I am seeing these things differently now than everyone else… how do you know I am wrong and you are right?

      I don’t But I don’t and can’t look at it with your perspective on the whole thing. My whole outlook on life is different than that.

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  13. From ff book: “Don’t make the alligator mad until you’ve crossed the river.”

    “Chinese Proverb: Do not insult the crocodile until you’ve crossed the river.”

    possibly related to the carved chinese faces artifacts in treasure chest…?

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  14. Oh, and “can opener” could be a necessary item for the doomsday preppers (Dr. Pepper?) if we ever do have an “end times” scenario.

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    • Oops, this should go under Jumpstart the Learning Curve tab. Sorry.
      “maybe I need to brush up on my good housekeeping skills – trying to cook dinner and do this at the same time”, lol

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  15. Mike:
    This is the one chapter I have been trying to figure out for a long time.Why so many references to his mother in this story?Any hints as to what you have found?

    Mike, how do you approach an area you are looking at as a search area? Do you learn the ancient history, the geology,the folk lore, the ecology issues of that place in todays time? If this is how you research and you find the right location this chapter will make perfect sense. Forrest loves history, he loves the ancient people and how they lived their lives,he knows about geology and he cares about the health of the earth.This book is not about the ends of time, its about learning from the past, a reverence for life, a celebration of life and treating others with grace.
    Mike give me your email address and I will send you a hint about this chapter.

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    • I was hoping to receive that sort of reply, as this is what I have been researching for the past month, especially in regards to ancient people. I think Forrest wants to tell a story much more important than someone finding a treasure. Thanks.

      mike@ttotc.com

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  16. NotSoWise: Did I say he was going to be left behind? No, I don’t believe I did…

    I was referring to the “Left Behind” books and movies which are based upon a futurist view of Bible “end-time” prophecy (you know, tribulation, rapture, antichrist, and all that?). I have seen no indication that he is into all of that.

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    • I agree. I don’t believe either that he is into that (Bible).
      He is more science/biology/astronomy/universe than religious.
      Maybe he isn’t Lucifer then, maybe is wanting people to learn/research more about science and persuade the religious folk that the universe/science should be their God or spirituality….
      Maybe he wants people to weigh out what the truth possibly could be…Science vs. Religion
      He says he wants people to get out in nature exploring, ie, geology/rocks/science, which speaks about the history of our planet and by seeing petroglyphs, (words of previous man) which are symbols left by past peoples to teach us about what the’ve learned or experienced. These symbols have spiritual significance. These symbols/petroglyphs/artifacts/civilizations disappearing are saying: “End of Times”, again, as I see it.

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  17. You all will be suprised when you figure out what this chapter is really about. Two old ladies spouting off at the mouth,alot older than me, matter of academic dispute, zero population growth, mother said to wear clean underwear in case there was an accident,perfect example of natures long sightedness,kids didnt run away from home that came later when the girls started making trouble,those two old biddies are probably long since dead…that will teach those two.

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    • This is the one chapter I have been trying to figure out for a long time. Why so many references to his mother in this story? Any hints as to what you have found?

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      • I can tell you what I think, but no one will listen or respond to any of my comments.
        But I’ll tell you my take on it….
        This whole book is about the End of TImes!
        “D-Day”, Armageddon, Pole Shift, etc.
        I wish all of you could see this. Maybe some do, but just don’t want to believe it….idk
        1. The brick houses signify the rich and how they think they’re better than others.
        2. Clean underwear signifies you could get caught in an accident (pole shift) and not have any clothes to change into because you home has been destroyed.
        3. Zero population growth signifies the vast number of people that will be killed and only the rich & powerful (Illuminati) will survive. They already have their underground facilities prepared & ready when this happens.
        4. Car whizzing every which way = Mass hysteria, chaos, panic as people try to get to safe ground.
        5. Running away from home = same thing – looking for safe location.
        6. Mother = mother earth
        7. Step on a crack = earthquakes, tectonic plates shifting.
        OK, if you read up on what is going on right now, pole shift, planet X, archaeo-astronomy, secret societies, (government) symbolism, and how history repeats itself, pole shift has happened before…
        If you can have this mindset as you read the book, you will see what I’m talking about.

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        • I could probably make myself have that mindset as an experiment (even though as a preterist/postmillennialist it would be difficult), but what I have problems with is believing that Forrest had that mindset. He doesn’t strike me as being a “Left Behind” kind of guy.

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          • Did I say he was going to be left behind? No, I don’t believe I did…
            What do you really think is his reasoning/purpose for writing this book/poem? Is he warning people of the upcoming events? Is he really just a nice old guy wanting to make people get out into nature? Not so sure…
            Or is he Lucifer and needs to hurry up (the end is ever drawing nigh / both his and the planet’s / nigh=left) and find another soul to possess by hiding a treasure hoping some unsuspecting redneck that drives a pickup truck with 6 kids and no job) will find the chest, open the lid (marvel & gaze at him) and then he will be able to take their soul and finalizing it with the title to the gold), doing what he is “attributed to”? (pg. 147 of the book)….IMHO

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        • I could not disagree with you more. Forrest is acutely aware of the passage of time. He collects antiquities, treasures from the past left both knowingly and unknowingly for those that would come later. He is leaving gifts for future discoverers; the treasure, the bells, his writings.

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          • Well, why would he write the book as he did in such a nonsensical way? Why not just come right out and say what he believes in a straightforward scientific/historical/factual way?
            “I guess I need to start posting some of my findings (now I wish I would have taken more notes, ha!) that correlate to religion (the dark side) as opposed to science, even though none of you want to hear/read it. BTW, I am not a religious person. But I am spiritual in a sense of believing in Gods within the universe. If that makes any sense”…
            Maybe all this talk should be under “the couch”?

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        • notsowise, in earlier times kids were often instructed by their mothers to be sure they had on clean underwear in case of an accident. And what was the reason for that? Good hygiene was one, but also some parents were very concerned with what others thought or might think of them or their children so they didn’t want their children to be taken to a hospital with dirty underwear on. There is nothing more to it than that. I would think just about every child heard that along with “remember to wash behind your ears.”

          “Step on a crack, break your mother’s back” was a common saying among kids up through at least the 1950s, a silly superstition left over from a more superstitious age or as its polar opposite, a way for a child to work out anger at mom.

          I don’t know about the rest, but I think you are trying to read too much into the ones I’ve addressed here.

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          • Yes Ava, I’m old enough to know all of the things kids did & said in the past…I lived it. But, what’s the point of ff putting all this nonsensical stuff in his book?
            ie: pg 24 – “The snickers around the class did little to belay her anguish and just for a faint moment, my growing awareness compared the look on her face to a can opener ad I’d seen in Good Housekeeping Magazine.” “I remembered what I’d heard on the Amos & Andy radio show: “Don’t make the alligator mad until you’ve crossed the river.”
            Ava, I mean… come on!
            This book is intentionally loaded with stupid stuff like this for a reason!
            There are hidden meanings behind all this nonsensical stuff… Probably 90% of the book! “It’s jam-packed!”
            Don’t you think the book is strange?
            FF had to figure out ways to secretively put informational clues in the book, by not telling us too much, which are the subtle clues he’s told us are there so we can find the treasure.
            That is, if one is smart enough to see them and figure it out.
            Just saying….

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          • NotSoWise I think you’ve fallen off the deep end, Or experienced to many cracks to the head. You have a strange take on this whole thing that is way off base if you ask me. FF doing what he has done was meant as good intentions . Did you ever think he did it to maybe change someones life for the better to keep the finder from the constant struggle just to take care of himself or herself and their family. A person could really become the person they were naturally meant to be without the financial burden changing them into someone else.

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        • Notsowise

          For many years I have been reading about planet x, nibiru, aliens, etc etc etc.

          I would always say – if it doesn’t line up with the word of God – it isn’t going to happen. So far for all of the times they say the world is going to end – it hasn’t.

          That doesn’t mean I don’t believe the world is going to end – but according to the bible certain things have to happen and they just haven’t yet. And only God knows when the world is going to end.

          Science as far as I am concerned is garbage in, garbage out. Far too often data is manipulated to return the results of the scientist (take climate change for an example).
          Not that Science hasn’t done some wonderful things – but for some of the things I’ve read are fact – I seem to run into another expert debunking it.

          But the point I am trying to make here is – I agree with people who say don’t over analyze it all. One could go nuts thinking/reading all the crap on the internet.

          I believe we need to look at the literal meaning of something – like a child would. FF has intimated as much.

          I have a solve that is so simple – fits everything, that I can’t believe I would find the treasure there. It is just following the poem literally. Simple as can be.

          But I can’t go due to certain constraints.

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  18. I think crossing the busy street and the biddies feeling superior because they lived in a “brick” home is important. Either FF is referring to himself living in a “wooden” house or possibly a “mobile” home such as an airstream.

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    • If you are a little pig, neither the straw house not the wood house survives the onslaught of the wolf, only the brick home. Brown bricks perhaps.

      Does Forrest consider himself more like the little pigs or the big bad wolf?

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  19. Did anyone ever notice in the drawing of the biddies – the one one the right’s sleve? It just doesn’t look right. Could it be a map with trees being the flowers?

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    • inthechaseto the drawing on the next page is interesting. It looks like 2 of the men in some type of military uniform and the girl appears to be wearing a headband like indians. I remember seeing a uniform similar to the types in the drawing somewhere in my research. I know the 7th Calvery symbol has 2 crossed swords.

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      • Yes JJ. The way I’ve worked out my spot has more to do with FF being a pilot. His admiration for fellow pilots and in particular the Viet Nam War -which I fell affected him deeply. It also has to to with WWII. The bells we were speaking of yesterday – I belive to be small as they were tied to the horses manes and also used in dances.

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