Jump-Starting the Learning Curve-1

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  1. Miss Ford- “ok class you have had plenty of time to study scrapbook 173, now who can give me a theme or element of that scrapbook….hmmm?
    (some children raise hands)
    yes, Whitney?”

    Witney- “western art.”

    Miss Ford- “very good Whitney….
    (other hands go up)
    you, Plains.”

    Plains- “indians!”

    Miss Ford- “yes, indians are an element of scrapbook 173 arent they…. Cody?”

    Cody- “guns!”

    Miss Ford- “there is a firearm in this scrapbook yes Cody. ok who can give me one more element or theme?……mmm Bunker.”

    Bunker- “ummm, pictures!”
    Sands- “he means photographs Miss Ford.”

    Miss Ford- “thank you Sands. so children I want you to keep these elements in mind when we go on our field trip to the Buffalo Bill Center of the West next week.”

    Forrest Fenn- “Miss Ford?”

    Miss Ford- “yes Forrest.”

    Forrest- “i found a arrowhead when i was digging in my back yard with a spoon.”

    Miss Ford- “well now that was exciting wasn’t it. perhaps you can donate it to the museum when we go so they can put it on display for all to enjoy.”

    Forrest- “no ma’am, im keepin it.”

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  2. This is probably not new to anyone, but thought I’d throw it out…

    Two blazes and look quickly down in one paragraph of Jump Starting.

    Pg 26
    …It was easy to justify the time I spent in Spanish class LOOKing out of the big window that was adjacent to my desk. It was on the second floor, and a beautiful old iron, slide-down FIRE escape was just outside that window. When the SUN was out, the smell of freedom was more than I could resist. So on occasion, when Miss Ford was writing Spanish words on the blackboard, I’d QUICKLY slip through the window and DOWN and away.
    And then in the next paragraph, there is mention of a brown color.
    These must be the hints/clues that are “sprinkled” throughout the book?
    Like other places in the book, we get tidbits but can’t complete the picture. Everything seems to dead end.

    Sigh

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  3. inthechaseto:
    Bur –

    I know you can get more creative than that.Think about how you would do it – if you were FF.Remember each stamp is related to a person.

    Okay Inthechaseto never considered that, damn more research. Thanks Bur

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  4. Bob:
    E- Custers 7th was not the same as William Cody’s. FF purposely left the distinction out of his memoir to send people searching Custers last stand for clues rather than William Cody.

    How right you are Bob you really have been doing your research, and E* thanks your getting the hang of this, and Europe was a good catch. You know Mark Twain (SLC) suggest that Cody to take his show there. Bur

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  5. inthechaseto:
    Bob –

    If you think Wild Bill “Cody” is in the mix – then perhaps “Elvis” istoo-

    Buffalo and alligator right?

    InthechasetoMindyFauseyRickinflorida-

    I would like to answer your question but I’m having trouble understanding, you’ve combined the names of two different people…wild bill hickock and buffalo bill cody into wild bill cody. Lol that’s funny.
    And then the question is…buffalo and alligator right?

    As opposed to buffalo and alligator left?
    So you are asking me if these two creatures are republicans? Or conservatives? Not liberals? Or on the right side of the drawing? Or photo? Maybe a buffalo and alligator are dance partners and they just sashayed right? I’m confused. I know Elvis was a singer. FF had an alligator named Elvis because of his big mouth. I suppose it would be thrilling to be chased by an alligator.

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  6. Bur:
    . So if it seems I’m over the top I do apologize not my intention. Bur

    Bur, you have nothing to apologize for. I have problems with words myself , more so lately than usual. I enjoy your posts , always have. Continue and I will try and figure out what you are seeing. 🙂

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    • Deb- I’ll help you, when Forrest says “start at the beginning” or “if you know where to start” he’s talking about the book TTOTC. Understanding hints in the book will lead you to an area and then the poem is used.
      He also says the book is important because “the poem, is in the book”
      In other more accurate words, the location of the chest is the small map that is the poem. The book gives you the big picture of where to take the small map.
      You did this yourself with Eric Sloane. The difference is Eric is mentioned directly by name whereas Buffalo Bill Cody is not.
      But, then again what do I know?

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      • LOL Bob didn’t I tell you for YEARS you needed the book? I am not surprised by any place this takes us. 🙂 I am looking at new ideas myself, but I truly don’t think its in Yellowstone or Wyoming. And as you said, what do I know? lol

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  7. Hey fellas, can we get back to hint discussion…..if you can recognize them.

    From this chapter- “No matter what I lacked or lost, bad grades and all, they couldn’t take away my name.”

    I think this is a hint to the story of Buffalo Bill winning his name. Or keeping his name. He beat Billy Comstock at a buffalo shooting contest. Billy Comstock was backed by the officers of Fort Wallace and favored to win. Wagers were high and if Bill Cody lost, we would have Buffalo Bill Comstock instead. But, they didn’t take his name.

    Inthechaseto- how they know how many buffalo were killed by Bill Cody is he was paid to kill them, by the head.

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    • Well Bob guess I either open a can of worms or no one cares to understand all the related writings in the book and with Forrest about B.B.C. No one caught the nickels on the grave part, so Bob can you keep a secret, oh that’s right one of us would have to be…. Wait something was said in one of the responses to me that was related and they didn’t follow through with it. Most of B.B.C is general knowledge and printed in Wikipedia, but the right answers are where you have to “dig deep”. Bur

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      • Bob, I know a few of your searches were related in ways with B.B.C and I wondered if you remember back when Chris Yates put out a copy of the stamp numbers and pages that were from the TTOTC book. I had saved a copy of it because I did not have a book back then and thought that it might come in handy if I came across something that matched them. Guess what a few of them matched up and one became a real slap in the face. By the way thanks Chris for posting them. Well just thought that might come in handy for you if you had it, and sorry I only have a printed copy somewhere. Bur

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        • Bur,

          Yes, some of the stamps were a “slap in the face” for me too 🙂

          My dad was born on July 10 (it’s on the inside cover).
          I’m born on September 16,
          My wife is born on October 10,
          Our daughter is born on August 8.

          All of them on the list.

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          • Re the stamps –

            I don’t think Forrest included himself or any member of his family in the stamps. So – no slap anywhere.

            BTW – I do think Hickok fits in the mix.

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        • Okay here is what I found on one postmark (Chris Yates Posted) and then seeing it in the book after his post. Surviving Myself: -Let’s put it all in numbers…Wednesday – “3”rd day of the week, stamp # “039”, “15”th day, April – “4”th month, 1938. So you come up with 3 039 15 4 1938. Now how many total “9”‘s can you get out of those numbers– 333, 54, 18, 153, 4311, 9, 9, = 7right. – now what about the word Wednesday “9” letters and let’s not forget about the page number 36 another “9” Total 9’s = 9 So where does 9 come into play oh yes nine clues. Now I’m “with a passionate fervor” about this and this chapter. I keep looking at the numbers and found a longitude & latitude that related to Cody. 105 degrees 14.3 min west – 39 degrees 43.9 min north, check it out. Bur

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          • Bur –

            I know you can get more creative than that. Think about how you would do it – if you were FF. Remember each stamp is related to a person.

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          • Oops 9 goof and I couldn’t change it oh well … Hey Inthechaseto, I only had Chris’s numbers not the book when I figured this out. Bur

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          • You can do it with just Chris’s numbers to start – but to finalize it you need the book. There’s more to the stamps than meets the eye at first.

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      • Bur – OK,…they didn’t give me the Online Searcher of the Year award for nothing:

        Chief Iron Tail was an international personality and appeared as the lead with Buffalo Bill at the Champs-Élysées in Paris, France and the Colosseum in Rome, Italy. In France, as in England, Buffalo Bill and Chief Iron Tail were feted by the aristocracy. Iron Tail was one of Buffalo Bill’s best friends and they hunted elk and bighorn together on annual trips. On one of his visits to The Wigwam, Buffalo Bill asked Iron Tail to illustrate in pantomime how he played and won a game of poker with U.S. army officials during a Treaty Council in the old days. “Going through all the forms of the game from dealing to antes and betting and drawing a last card during which no word was uttered and his countenance like a statue, he suddenly swept the table clean into his blanket and rose from the table and strutted away. It was a piece of superb acting, and exceedingly funny.” Buffalo Bill regarded Chief Iron Tail as one of the greatest man he ever knew. McCreight and Buffalo Bill grieved over the death of Iron Tail. With deep emotion, Buffalo Bill said he was going to put a granite stone on Chief Iron Tail’s grave with a replica of the Buffalo nickel (for which Chief Iron Tail had posed) carved on it as a memento.

        However, Col. Cody died on January 10, 1917, just six months after Chief Iron Tail’s death. In a ceremony at Buffalo Bill’s grave on Lookout Mountain, west of Denver, Colorado, Chief Flying Hawk laid his war staff of eagle feathers on the grave. Each of the veteran Show Indians placed a Buffalo nickel on the imposing stone as a symbol of the Indian, the Buffalo, and the Scout, figures since the 1880s that were symbolic of the early history of the American West.

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        • Good research E*, your on the way to finding more if follow through with what you have started, in this case the end is not drawing nigh the trail is long and the river’s wide, and your start is not at the beginning. Bur

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          • E- thank you so much! We can accomplish great things here working together! And may I say Mr. E* that I found your research absolutely delightful!
            Delightful!

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          • I agree with E* good one. Bob you have always been a funny guy and I like that about you. I tend to use you here as like a fall guy and if I get carried away just say it, but I consider us friends (as I do others) and hope you do the same. Your thoughts and comments are always appreciated. Thanks Bur

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      • Hi Deb, I was referring to the right answers that connect with the TTOTC book, poem, and Forrest with B.B.C that I have come across, which are many. If others are interested I will be happy to share in time, but I’ve done the research and will not just hand it all out. As E*, Inthechaseto, and Bob have done research and found connections, and I admire that, but there is so much more. No where am I saying other thoughts people are talking about are wrong, but actually some do connect. Here’s one, Alice in “Wonderland”. On one of B.B.C trails he crossed thru “Wonderland” and there are photos during that time of that area. So again if your interested or not in my findings there are connections you might be amazed on what I have come across and they can be researched. Anyone can use it as they want or not. Most people are set on the avenues of their solve I’m just opening other avenues. I have quit the physical part of the search for reasons known to me, but if I can help others in some way on things I find, good. But always understand it is my research and I can’t always be 100% correct because some facts very from person to person. So thanks for weighing in on this Deb, and I hope I can throw a surprise in every now and then. Bur

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        • My question is how can you be sure they are the “right” answers ? My point was we can all be sure , but without a chest in our hands all answers may be the right answer.

          Of course I am interested in what others find , I just think that just about anything can be found to have connections if we look at it long enough. 🙂

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          • Deb- so true, everybody is right and everybody is wrong until the chest is found….I’m somewhere in the center.

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          • Deb sometimes I don’t word things correctly and you have to read into my lines. It might relate to be like the trivia games I use to play with my family through emails. I am giving hints in what I write and to me the “right answer” is the ones that relate to my hints and connections I have found. Yes everyone can find connections and that’s what this is all about, but now the pressure is off my shoulders and I can just research and have fun connecting dots wherever they lead me. This is just one avenue with B.B.C I do have others, but for now this is my train of thought and I’m having fun with it. Some things have been discussed in the past even on Dal’s blog among us chasers on this subject but I felt not in depth. So if it seems I’m over the top I do apologize not my intention. Bur

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        • Bur – Everytime I see the abbreviation you are using, “B.B.C.”,…I think of England,… specifically London,…where B.B.C. famously took his show on the road,…and met King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra and sons. I saw a framed poster of that event,…right next to the Grizz,…at my favorite breakfast place this morning:

          www.travelphotobase.com/s/CODY.HTM
          (See: 1903: Cody Show returns to Europe)

          I had dinner last night at their sister restaurant,…which also features a great collection of Western Art and Memorabilia. They had these two posters on the wall:

          www.pioneersaloon.com/Assets/poster-1.jpg
          oldeamericaantiques.com/catalog/images/MT-Frank_300x450.jpg

          But we all know who the REAL McCoy was,…as far as those Wild West shows go,…don’t we? It was sort of like Forrest vs. his competitors,…in the gallery business,…in Santa Fe, I’m sure. I wonder if that has any relevance to that chapter in TTOTC? Bur? Bob? Let’s get this B.B.C. show on the road!

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          • E- Custers 7th was not the same as William Cody’s. FF purposely left the distinction out of his memoir to send people searching Custers last stand for clues rather than William Cody.

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          • E- this show is officially on the road with Gypsy Magic solved…feel free to jump on the bandwagon. I’m looking for Annie Oakley now where is she mentioned? Is it the little girl in the bookstore that took Forrest straight to the books he wanted? “Little Sure Shot”? No, wait it can’t be because Forrest was sure she went to a good school somewhere and Annie Oakley never did. Maybe it’s a fact written wrong though because everyone else in the chapter Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Redford, Salinger all either didn’t go to college or left early or had problems of some sort and managed to do well in life at their skill.

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          • Bob – Did you notice that B.B.C. worked as a Justice of the Peace in 1870,…according to that chronology I posted? He encouraged Wild Bill Hickok to marry Calamity Jane,…who did very well for herself,…despite her lack of education (like those others you mentioned):

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamity_Jane

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          • As many know Forrest was or is a Board of Trustees member for the Buffalo Bill Historical Center in Cody, WY – also on the Advisory Board for the McCracken Research Library – he was a donor in the Buffalo Bill Society – and donor in the ” Annie Oakley Circle” is that a connection your looking for Bob with Forrest & B.B.C & Annie Oakley? How can no one not ask “why” on “all” and not research the connections between Fenn and Cody. There is still so much more I have that to me makes Cody the main thread in TTOTC book. As far as the poems solve, it connects to Cody’s trail of his life, and a special place in it that Forrest and Skippy once traveled too. “Two people can keep a secret if one is dead.” Bur

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          • As many know Forrest was or is a Board of Trustees member for the Buffalo Bill Historical Center in Cody, WY – also on the Advisory Board for the McCracken Research Library – he was a donor in the Buffalo Bill Society – and donor in the ” Annie Oakley Circle” is that a connection your looking for Bob with Forrest & B.B.C & Annie Oakley? How can no one not ask “why” on “all” and not research the connections between Fenn and Cody. There is still so much more I have that to me makes Cody the main thread in TTOTC book. As far as the poems solve, it connects to Cody’s trail of his life, and a special place in it that Forrest and Skippy once traveled too. “Two people can keep a secret if one is dead.” Bur

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          • E* one could go crazy with original articles, information, pictures, ect.. that people and family members have donated, in fact my mind went in overload looking. To me all it proved was connections to connections to connections. Bob was there and I know his research has had to come across them because of areas he and Zelda searched. So this is one of the reasons I follow Bob’s posts and all the craziness in them, don’t let him fool you he could have the solve or be so close to it. I know he said he has solved it and I guess time will tell if that is true. Like I think I found the “main thread” and shortly I will be posting possible areas dealing with B.B.C’s trail through life and connections with them. Bur

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    • Everyone finds something different in the chase. I wouldn’t assume that any answer was the right answer . For me this statement was about Hercules and Hera’s attempt to keep him from being born as King of Greece.

      There is an old Masons legend about a treasure that can only be found by observing the stars and figuring out how they tied the stars to a location.

      I believe Forrest took parts from many different legends to build the chase. The books are about heroes , all kinds of heroes. The skies are filled with legends of heroes. The reason only takes showers at night is because of that window over the shower. ..meteor showers. 🙂

      Lots of ways to think about it.

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  8. “Good Housekeeping magazine” made it’s debut in 1885.
    Bill Cody’s Wild West show in 1883.

    This time period in American history is known as “the progressive era”

    Similar to escaping out the window, and down the fire escape. The times, they were a changin!

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      • Inthechaseto, actually Buffalo Bill Cody is related to a lot in the TTOTC book and the poem and Forrest himself, and “Wild Bill” Hickok was good friends with Cody, and he was also in B.B.C Wild West Show. There is so much on this topic that’s related that I’m truly surprised there hasn’t been more details discussed on blogs, or will there be? A “nickel” for your thoughts. Bur

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        • Bur –

          A whole nickel – I’ll take it.

          I really haven’t given enough thought to him. Give me awhile to research it more and I’ll get back to you 🙂

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          • Inthechaseto and E*, ok I will throw a nickel or “2” for you. I don’t have my note book with me right now and I don’t want to tell all yet but who’s face is on the Buffalo nickel (CIT) and yes that’s one of Cody’s own buffalo’s he raised for the image on the back. There is so much more and how it is related in the book and to Forrest. Bur

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          • Bur – See: the Designs, Models and Names Controversy section below in this link about the artist’s models for the Indian and the Buffalo:

            en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_nickel

            According to Fraser, the animal that appears on the reverse is the American bison Black Diamond. In an interview published in the New York Herald on January 27, 1913, Fraser was quoted as saying that the animal, which he did not name, was a “typical and shaggy specimen” which he found at the Bronx Zoo.[52] Fraser later wrote that the model “was not a plains buffalo, but none other than Black Diamond, the contrariest animal in the Bronx Zoo. I stood for hours … He refused point blank to permit me to get side views of him, and stubbornly showed his front face most of the time.”

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        • Bur – OK,…for a Nickel:

          en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earle_Fraser_(sculptor)

          Fraser was born in Winona, Minnesota. His father, Thomas Fraser, was an engineer who worked for railroad companies as they expanded across the American West. A few months before his son was born, Thomas Fraser was one of a group of men sent to recover the remains of the 7th Cavalry Regiment following George Armstrong Custer’s disastrous engagement with the Lakota, Cheyenne, and Arapaho forces at the Battle of the Little Bighorn.

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          • E* good research in finding a small piece, but that’s only common two cents worth, sorry, but you have to dig deep to find the bronze box and thanks for weighing in. Bur

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          • Bur –

            I found the bronze box relating to Cody – but that is not enough for me to add him to the equation.

            He does not fit the parameters I am using for the way I think FF did this.

            He was a Mason – and a very exalted one indeed. He also started working at the very young age of 11. He is buried in Co. He is a Medal Of Honor recipient. He did indeed kill 4,282 (I wonder who counted) buffalo. This may be the one reason FF did not use him.

            So, I could be so wrong – perhaps you have seen things, and I’m sure you have – that I have not seen and you can enlighten me. 🙂

            I’ll even give you your buffalo head nickel back.

            Here is one website I think pretty much sums him up.

            www.masonicworld.com/education/files/may03/buffalo_bill.htm

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          • inthechaseto – Were you referring to the Bronze Casket,…in which Buffalo Bill Cody was buried,…atop Lookout Mountain in Colorado???:

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          • Hi Everybody! I just got home from work to find this lively discussion! Great! We are all digging deep. I want to say that there is no reason FF’s bronze box can’t be buried near the top of lookout mountain. The location fits; above 5,000 ft, below 10,200,
            Not associated with a structure, not in Nevada, Idaho, Utah.
            There’s a parking lot at the MUSEUM witin 500ft of the grave. There is a flagpole at the grave that casts it’s shadow every sunny day.
            The only problem I see with all of it is it’s in COLORADO and Bill Cody did not want to be buried in COLORADO! He is mad!
            “Take the chest and leave my bones” the my bones person is the same as the person hinted to in the TTOTC stories! Buffalo Bill Cody, not FF’s bones.

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          • Darling Bob –

            So, when are you leaving to go to a – dig, dig, dig, deep – for Cody’s bones? I’ll hold the money for ya to bail you out of jail. Please don’t take Zelda, I hate to see women behind bars.

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          • E- nope, no key, no cave. Poem is metaphors .

            Inthechaseto- the chest is not in Colorado, use your money for your searches. Thanks to both of you, I got what I needed.

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  9. To everyone’s surprise I answered her correctly and that startled her pretty good.

    The answer (s) (ing) (ed) I already know

    Choose a suffix , does it matter? No.
    (Disclaimer)

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  10. 🙂

    book page 23 & 25 drawing, based on Saturday Evening Post magazine cover by Norman Rockwell titled ” FACTS OF LIFE”

    Principal William Marvin Fenn
    boy fbf

    Definition of ABC’s,

    1. the basic or elementary Facts, or Principles, etc of a subject.
    2. the Alphabet.

    To bad this was junior high school event 7th grade, would work better if was in the Elementary school and/or with Basic training in military.

    And y there is those books on the shelf,

    The Golf Chess & Cheese Society

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  11. Jack:
    Have you seen the video of the book signing on October 22, where Forrest says, “I didn’t write the poem, it was written by an architect”? Is Forrest a Freemason? Your statement that Rockwell is a Freemason “also” implies they both are. I have wondered about this but didn’t know how to research it.

    Jack, Forrest also said “each word was deliberate”, not each line or stanza but each word was written by a architect. I IMHO it’s some of the words in the poem that are the clues and either there alternative meanings or opposite meanings that lead right to the TC. I have found this the case in now in two of my solves that actually spells out the state- same state for both, the city, and the place of the blaze and they have a strong connection to Forrest to top it off. Those double omegas play a part in this too. I’m just waiting on spring to get to these new areas to search.

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    • I also came across the Freemasons crossing paths in research info back in July but could not connect Forrest to being one and still I am not sure if he is one or not, but a lot of people he is associated with in one way or another are and that helps in clues.

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  12. Bur:
    Norman Rockwell was a Freemason also. Freemasons seem to play a good part in info in solves.

    Also in the Andy Thomos painting – Benjamin Franklin, Will Rogers, Ronald Regan, Buffalo Bill Cody, and Mark Twain were Freemasons. Not sure on the others. Mark Twain and Will Rogers was also mentioned like Norman Rockwell on Forrest Blog Cowboy Cartoonist

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  13. Jack:
    Have you seen the video of the book signing on October 22, where Forrest says, “I didn’t write the poem, it was written by an architect”? Is Forrest a Freemason? Your statement that Rockwell is a Freemason “also” implies they both are. I have wondered about this but didn’t know how to research it.

    I have ask people before if Forrest was a Freemason because I could not find that he was, but there is a lot of connections with them in many clues for me.

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  14. Bur:
    Jack there is a painting by Andy Thomas calledAmerican Storytellers and Norman Rockwell along with other famous people are in it. Since Forrest wants to fit in this category maybe this can be a clue. Also Bob you might like this painting when you see who’s in it.

    Bur,
    That is interesting. Rockwell is there, as well as Buffalo Bill Cody and Hemingway. Do you know if one of them is F. Scott Fitzgerald (writer of Great Gatsby)?

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    • “Oh, to be there and hear the stories. Imagine hearing Mark Twain and Will Rogers trade witticisms or Ronald Reagan tell a good story. Charles Russell, Frederic Remington, and Norman Rockwell told incredible stories in their paintings and writings. Ben Franklin was once called the First American, and somehow, that seems right. Ernest Hemingway took the American character and planted him around the world. Buffalo Bill, a real man of the West, created a mythical man of the West through his Wild West show. Teddy Roosevelt, a true blue blood from the east, went west to test his mettle.” – quote from the website, one name is missing.

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      • As noted above. If you take a look at the picture of Andy Thomas the painter, you will see.
        Andy Thomas is a storyteller painter also, his inspiration was Norman Rockwell.

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  15. Ok I’ll take a crack at putting this together. The first Norman Rockwell copy appears in “Jump Starting the Learning Curve”. Except for the background it is an exact copy- same people, same clothes, posture, etc. It is later confirmed with clips of NR paintings (same cow mirror image, same two boys). The learning curve eventually leads to wisdom. “If you’ve been wise and found the blaze”. The blaze is a rock or a rock well, or a rock wall?
    Maybe….? Or it is located somewhere with the name Rockwell.

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        • Good catch Bur! And their symbol is……… I believe this wil help you locate/ recognize the blaze. I’ll be looking again next week. Along with some noise.

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          • Have you seen the video of the book signing on October 22, where Forrest says, “I didn’t write the poem, it was written by an architect”? Is Forrest a Freemason? Your statement that Rockwell is a Freemason “also” implies they both are. I have wondered about this but didn’t know how to research it.

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      • He ‘crafted” the poem, thats what I got out that architect statenment/ A lady that asked if she could go with him straight to the chest, did you catch his reply, it was ‘ do you have an airplane?;. They were in Santa Fe. Yes, BIG bolders, rocks, just may be a big part of the ending solve, also lots of pics with ppl next to big rocks/ also NOW a metal dectector would help if you are at the exact spot ff said.

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        • He’s also made mention of going out to the desert and also just driving over to it right now. I think that’s why he said not to believe anything he says besides the poem is useful.

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          • His airplane comment is the same one he gives any female who asks him anything that crosses the line of his marriage. Doesnt have any meaning about the treasure.

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  16. Meme: Kym mentions this at the bottom of this thread back in July.

    “And the illustration that depicts a boy sitting just like in a Norman Rockwell painting?” -Kym

    Meme, you are right. Good job Kym. How did we miss that?

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  17. The drawings for the book were done by Allen Polt who is a very talented artist. Check out his website to see his work. The drawings for the book are very simple and I’m sure he could whip them out in very little time. So why would he copy the work of another artist for FF’s book unless he was instructed to do so? There must be a clue related to Norman Rockwell.

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    • Ok started looking at NR illustrations. The two boys in the center of the illustration on page 51, are from a cover of the saturday evening post on june 4, 1921. The date on the post mark that page is june 5.

      I believe the 2 biddies are based on another NR on the sat. evening post called “gossip”. Take a look.

      I suspect the marble players are another, havent found it yet. It just seems familiar when I first saw it.

      So yes NR is of interest.

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  18. Woody Bogg:
    I think it’s the same cow with the head reversed and the boy milking from the opposite side

    Yes, mirror imaged. Look especially at the head, position of the legs, hoofs, knees, and the area near the tail. I am sure this drawing was derived from that painting.

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  19. Jack:
    I’m thinking that may be the clue or hint – that the treasure, or maybe the blaze may be “hiding” as something very familiar. So familiar that it wouldn’t be noticed.

    You know I fully expect that to be true. I am prepared for that. So many things have been in such plain sight – and no one’s picked up on them. They were thought to be stupid or not a clue – or they just did not want to put in the time to do the extra research. Placed in plain sight is going to be the key to finding the TC.

    I looked into that pic and Rockwell for a bit – haven’t found a clue there yet.

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      • Here is another thing I found a quote from Rockwell

        “When I am working on a story-telling picture, every detail must be planned in advance,” said the artist in his self-tilted instructional book Rockwell on Rockwell. “I have to work everything out the hard way.”¹ This is perhaps why he was fond of the Thomas Carlyle quote, “Genius is an infinite capacity for taking pains.”²

        The manner in which he worked was – extremely thorough. Just the same way we should approach the chase – precisely.

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          • Yes, I went back and found the story. The farmer in the painting was the cousin of their cook, Floyd Bentley of arlington vermont.

            He thought about using his own son but while on a trip to Philmont scout ranch in NM he met a staff member and eagle scout named Robert Waldrop. He also found the old truck in cimmaron.
            It took two years to complete the painting to his satisfaction.

            So, the first thing I read was partially right.

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  20. Can’t say if this is a clue or not, but I noticed this and found it interesting. The drawing on p. 25 is an exact copy of Norman Rockwell’s painting.

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    • To carry this a bit farther, you know how everyone is sure their site is the right place? His plan was to find places with similar characteristics, legends of lost treasures, and histories so that no one place would be so very different that it would stand out as the exact place. Brilliant.

      I have been chasing history trying to figure out which trail or blaze he followed to hide the treasure. I wrote to him recently about this and told him I felt I had fallen down the rabbits hole trying to find the right answers.

      I guess I will start deeply examining the new book. So much to think about.

      Sometimes I wish I could share what goes on in my head, but the past head injury makes it hard for me to find words. I will keep plugging on trying to help as I can. I hope I have been helpful to some.

      deb

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  21. Possible clue? Pg. 24 – Good Housekeeping Magazine:
    UNEP- United Nations Environmental Program = “Code of Good Housekeeping” as a brief outline of measures that should be considered to ensure that environmental releases of ozone?depleting substances (ODS) through all media are minimized.

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  22. There are a couple of chapters in the book where he gets spankings. The illustration in this one is where he is sitting with his father while his dad talks to him about not needing to disclose the whole truth.
    The other chapter he gets spanked is surviving myself where he accidentally hurts his sister and takes the spanking anyway. Later in the chapter he follows Skippy’s lead in a bedtime rebellion , several times before he wises up. This is the chapter where he runs to the graveyard to think in the middle of the night.

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  23. I don’t have the book, is this the part where he gets the spanking in school from his Dad the Principal? And the illustration that depicts a boy sitting just like in a Norman Rockwell painting? I found a Rockwell Falls on Two Medicine trail in Glacier Nat’l Park. (wwwh)

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      • If I remember correctly, Kym gave her book to Chris Yates as a gift. So she had it for quite a while, gave it away, then commented that she didn’t have the book.

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