Lugnutz Maps

Friends and fellow chasers, I am publishing my google maps to show the places I am interested in searching for the Fenn Cache.

These are screen shots from Google Maps and I have placed gold stars in all the places I research.

These are the homes of Brown, the warm waters and places that may be significant to Forrest. Heck, some are just based on crazy ideas or something I read about or something another chaser said. Some I probably won’t remember until I come around to them again.

These stars did not exist when I was young but most of the places they represent did exhist.

I make these stars on the map so that if years later something takes me back to the same spot I will know it.

I will attempt to publish the North of Santa Fe map first. I can start a discussion about any star and we can take in in the rabbit hole down!

Lugnutz New Mexico Full Monty

39 thoughts on “Lugnutz Maps

  1. bob: the chest of the poem and the bronze box are two different things

    IMO

    But is the chest of the book and the chest of the poem two separate things? Because the chest of the book contains the bracelet- “I held the 2,000-year-old piece of jewelry one last time and could almost feel its ancient power, its supremacy, before I finally lowered it into the chest and closed the lid.”- TTOTC, page 130.

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      • So then, to be clear, the chest of the book is the same as the bronze box, which does hold the necklace, but that is still not the treasure, because the treasure is the big outdoors, and the chest of the poem is at the Draper museum?

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        • mike, getting closer!
          this should help…from Dals blog homepage the paragraph “more caution”
          “….In fact, I (Dal) did not pay close enough attention to the precision of his words. He specializes in letting you believe something he never said. (I told you he is clever).”
          end quote from dals blog.

          what im saying is forrest never states in TTOTC that following the poem precisely will lead to the bronze box.

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          • heres an example of precision of words..from the chapter Gold and More.

            “so I wrote a poem…”

            he says “a” poem. why didnt he say THIS poem?

            he should have written…”so I wrote THIS poem …..”

            but his words are “so I wrote A poem…”

            naturally we assume the poem that follows is the poem he was talking about but heres the problem. the poem in Gold and More will lead to the end of his rainbow and the treasure. wait a minuite!! this is the first time I ever heard of end of rainbow…I thought he was talking about the bronze box! maybe he is not. maybe this poem in Gold and More is the wrong poem for finding the bronze box. maybe there should have been a paragraph break between ….”so I wrote a poem…” and the poem we see in the chapter with an explanation as just what this poem will lead to. there is a whole lot of assumtion going on here. in fact THIS poem leads to a chest. you can assume this chest and the bronze box are one in the same, because thats what forrest wants you to do. but i dont.

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  2. Mike –

    Are you looking for the treasure chest as described in The Thrill of the Chase?

    Are you looking “in the wilderness”?

    Lugnutz

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  3. Lugnutz:
    Bob –

    If you are looking for that chest, which you found, and you are not looking for the treasure that the rest of us are looking for, why are you engaging me in this discussion?

    I am looking for the treasure that Fenn describes in his book.

    My post, my stars, my searches and all of this are about just that one thing, the treasure.

    To be definitive for you in your language. I am not looking for the chest that you are referring to.

    Ok?

    Lugnutz

    so- long lugnutz! i am quite certain you will find that treasure of which you speak…and not even know it.

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    • lugnutz- i thought about the reason im engaging in this discussion over the weekend and realized i got caught up in the whole chest/treasure/treasure chest/bronze box/indulgence/whatever you want to call it discussion and forgot that my goal in discussing with you was to hopefully prevent you or anyone else from drowning in the Rio Grande gorge. since you posted your map with stars I went into panic mode trying to dissuade a search in that area. i should have stated my intended goal from the beginning and i apologize to you for not doing that. im not even sure any of your stars are near the river. again, im sorry. my thoughts do not belong on this thread.

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  4. Bob –

    Both myself and Mike seem to be confused about your assertions. So it is not just a case of me being new to Mike’s blog.

    Can you please explain the several different items you are referring to in one cohesive comment right here?

    You wrote that when Forrest writes “chest” in the poem that is not a reference to the bronze box that is pictured on Dal’s site, into which FF place his treasures. You also say that when Fenn speaks of the “treasure chest” in the New Mexico tourism video he is not referring to the “chest”. Is he referring to the “bronze box”. Is he referring to a 3rd item.

    Fascinating (I mean that the way Spock means it.)
    Lugnutz

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    • lug-
      treasure chest as in new mexico tourism ad…means the great outdoors. i mean really? a tourism ad, what else can it be?

      poem chest…”just take (a photo) the chest (large wooden box) and go in peace.”
      by definition a chest is a large wooden storage box which is exactly what you will find at the museum.

      lugnutz check the dictionary definition of chest and treasure chest. a 10 inch square by 5 inch high box does not fit the definition of either. in fact i believe this is why Forrest published the exact dimensions. the bronze box is barely bigger than a cigar box. he never said the poem will lead to the bronze box. rather…”lead to the end of my rainbow and the treasure.”
      and the word treasure can mean many, many things. look it up.

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      • Bob –

        Then what are you looking for?
        What does the poem and the book and the years of searching lead you to?

        Is there a treasure as described by Fenn in his book?
        Does the poem tell you how to find the treasure?
        Are you looking for the treasure?
        That’s what the rest of us our doing.

        Lugnutz

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        • the chest lugnutz….the chest. how many times do i have to say it? its at the Draper museum of natural history. mike has a photo i sent him. maybe he will post it here for you. maybe he wont.

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          • Bob –

            If you are looking for that chest, which you found, and you are not looking for the treasure that the rest of us are looking for, why are you engaging me in this discussion?

            I am looking for the treasure that Fenn describes in his book.

            My post, my stars, my searches and all of this are about just that one thing, the treasure.

            To be definitive for you in your language. I am not looking for the chest that you are referring to.

            Ok?

            Lugnutz

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  5. bob:
    thank you Woody for pointing that out. i have been wanting to discuss inside the dust jacket for a long time.

    inside the dust jacket is a book review written by someone other than Forrest. itblends well with inside the dust jacket on the back cover.part of the ruse.

    bob:
    thank you Woody for pointing that out. i have been wanting to discuss inside the dust jacket for a long time.

    inside the dust jacket is a book review written by someone other than Forrest. itblends well with inside the dust jacket on the back cover.part of the ruse.

    A Ruse. OK bob Sometimes a person has to trust in the knoeledge he knows and the things he Trusts!

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  6. Here are some notes about the New Mexico solves.

    Chama River is of interest for a couple of reasons. Chama means flame so that could be Blaze. Below the El Vado Res dam there are Brown Trout. Also El Vado means The Ford and Skippy’s car and a teacher were Fords.

    Rancho de Oso Pardo means Home of the Brown Bear. I would not go on private property ever. The ranch does border some interesting areas including Off Reservation Land and an important railway etc etc, rabbit hole nearing…

    Bunch of Hot Springs including Ponce De Leon. PDL Hot Springs are today owned by Taos Publo. Taos Pueblo acquired that land with an anonymous benefactor for 500k. That benefactor specified that the land shall remain open to the public in perpetuity.

    Ok I will stop for now
    Lugnutz

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      • Bob –

        If it’s not in the wilderness where is it?
        Soup pot at the Totem Cafe?
        Waste tank in Glacier National Park?
        Shiloh’s trunk??

        I am afraid I am unaware of where you think it resides.

        Lugnutz

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        • lug- you are new to Mikes. and this aint Dal’s .
          ok here ya go…the “chest” of the poem is not the bronze box. the chest of the poem is in an archaeology display at the Draper Museum of Natural History in Cody, WY. all of that i have explained here at mikes blog. just research the threads- poem stanzas, and each line of the poem. thats why they are separate here at mikes. its all here for you to read. go to the header and pick one. you will be amazed at what you will find. i suggest to start with poem 4:4.

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          • Ok Bob –

            I am now famial with your idea.

            I don’t have to agree that the chest in the poem is on display at the Draper Museum do I?

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          • In the book he put the bracelet in the chest. So the chest at the Draper must have that bracelet in it, right?

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          • lol ….no Mike. the bracelet is not in the chest at the draper. the bracelet is in the bronze box just like FF said.

            the chest of the poem and the bronze box are two different things

            IMO

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          • on Dals blog, home page, scroll down to the “more caution” paragraph and read what Dal says about Forrest manner of speech and then ask yourself this…If Dal is himself a searcher like the rest of us why is he saying to be cautious of the words Forrest chooses?

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        • Bob –

          Back on the Stanza 4 page you made an assertion and it was countered by Seeker. You claim Forrest never mentions the Chest outside of the poem, but he does. Specifically he says “treasure chest” in the New Mexico tourism video.

          So inthe video is he referring to the “chest’ that you say is in the big museum. Or is he referring to what you call the “bronze box” accept that he calls it “treasure chest”?

          What I like here is that you have said something original and fun. (and possibly crazy)

          Also – Hi Mike!

          Lugnutz

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          • thank you Woody for pointing that out. i have been wanting to discuss inside the dust jacket for a long time.

            inside the dust jacket is a book review written by someone other than Forrest. it blends well with inside the dust jacket on the back cover. part of the ruse.

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          • Good thinkin’, Bob.

            Furthermore…the chest is not under water…but it IS too far to walk.

            Occam’s razor conclusion: It’s up in a tree…or in a cliff wall. :/

            Btw, ruse is my favorite color of blush. It compliments the color of my cheeks perfectly to match my ruby hiking boots.

            Note to self: No more sliding down steep, icy hills on cheeks.

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          • We have so many quotes about the chest form Fenn I could choke a horse.

            How about from the dust jacket of TFTW quoting Fenn as he himself placed it:

            “…..study the clues in the book and thread a tract through the wiles of nature and circumstance to the treasure. If you can find it, you can have it. I warned the path would not be direct for those who had no certainty of the location beforehand, but sure for the one who did.” (Flap on map in Too Far to Walk)

            Further reading:
            mysteriouswritings.com/the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-comments/

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          • In a word, Lugnutz…Yes.

            I feel like a caliph. You should see my shining dust jacket wrapped around Too Far To Walk.

            It’s Beautiful. I can see why Forrest said he felt (feels?) like an Architect.

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