The Lounge

Take a break from the stress of the chase, and relax here every once in a while.  If you have something to say, but are not sure where to say it, then this is the place.

523 thoughts on “The Lounge

  1. So Forrest said I should read the poem normal then read it’s slowly so I I took 45 minutes reading it sssslllloooowwwwlllllyyyyyy, I don’t think it helped but it suddenly started raining and two guys in orange robes walked by. 🙂

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  2. Hi,

    I”m putting this out on all the TTOTC websites so other people don’t waste their time searching for something that has already been found. I have informed Mr Fenn that it has gone but received no response and have posted about it on Dal’s website but that was removed maybe he wanted to keep the partial clues I gave to himself I don’t know. So here is the complete solution, something I did not want to do but I guess its the only way to prove that the chest is no longer out there.

    ‘Kitchen Sink Rapids’ in Montana is warm water halts.
    On the road Buzeman-Norris next to the river is a Brown house, shed and green house.
    Up stream 1.5 miles on the left is a creek, take the left fork on the creek this takes you to the Blaze
    The Blaze is the face of an Owl 200m by 125m approximately ‘very old’. Its mainly on the Flying D Ranch part of Turner Enterprises, no access allowed. A small section is accessible, stand there and look down 250m there you will find a large pine tree and rock outcrop. Here there is a camp fire used for many years. Hidden below a thin layer of rock was the evidence of long use.

    25m down left of the pine tree was a part burnt piece of wood 12? long like a hand pointing out.
    30m to the right going out at a angle of 45 degrees are two stone alignments, of two white stones each.
    One is a park boundary the other is offset 30 degrees.
    On the boundary alignment a further 20m was a rope, 90 degrees right at a distance of about 7m is another piece of rope.
    90 degrees left at approximately 7m is another piece of burnt wood 15? long pointing too.
    The two piece of wood the offset stone alignment converge at a single point next to a small animal track at about 5000ft
    This is where the chest was I guess but no more. The total search area is less than 1000m sq which I searched several times.

    I was aware that some one may have beaten me to the chest early on as I found sound thing they left behind in a place no one would go unless they were searching for the chest.

    The ropes were not placed recently, the one that I left is next to a natural stone bench near a large pine tree which is 1m inside the park boundary.
    The wood was placed, one was lodge in between rocks, it broke when I tried to remove it. The other I moved about 0.5m an is now to the side of rock.

    The poem break down, last verse is a warning, the clues are in verses 2,3,4. Main point of the poem is “Tarry Scant”.

    Well that’s it now you know.

    IB1

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    • LOL, Bob. Ahhhhh…the ol’ problem/solution game.

      So THIS is the place for boys to be boys? I suppose it’s better late than never to learn such a thing.

      I swear I’m going to show up to the judgment bar one day and I’m going to be the only one who’s not laughing.

      Now I see the problem. I need to stay AWAY from The Judgement Bar completely…and just hang out here in The Nonjudgmental Lounge with YOU, Bob.

      Cheers! 🙂

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        • You’ll do just fine, Bob. I really hope to see you there. I’m not 100% positive I’ll be able to make it. I sure hope I can.

          If I do go, I promise not to bring any custom, homade puzzle cubes. 🙂

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          That was out of line and I must apologize…again. It’s hard being me. I have to apologize a LOT.

          If I can make it to Fennboree then I WILL bring the jello shots…a Utah original! After consuming about ten of the jello shots you’ll turn to me and say, “Hey, what’s in these things? They don’t seem to be working…and they’re not very FUN…if you know what I mean (wink wink)”

          I reply, “The secret ingredient is shredded carrots! Would you like some more?” 🙂

          Personally, I’m kinda looking forward to jello with shredded carrots instead of jello with crow feathers.

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          • Well….let me rephrase that…since I’m not able to edit my posts. I rarely need to apologize for anything I’ve said since in reality I’m a fairly quiet guy.

            It’s quite easy to type things while being sheltered behind anonymity on a blog. Things are easily said/typed which might never be expressed otherwise. Alter-egos and multiple personalities can easily make their appearance.

            For example, I would never make a comment about a “Fubix Cube” in the physical presence of most people…but if I was out with a friend or two fishing on the river it might make for a good chuckle.

            Then again…I might be the only one laughing at my jokes. Nobody laughs at my jokes like I do.

            I’m funny that way. 🙂

            Just ask me.

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  3. i was as close as anyone can be to hunch.
    like brothers.
    he had that Indiana Jones spirit for sure, sometimes a wee bit much.
    some say not a clue
    some say a bad idea
    I say he just tried too hard to please everyone, spread himself too thin and never really taken seriously.
    and what now? without hunch what do we have.
    a premonition? possibly.
    what to do with information presented.
    without hunch it goes straight to fact.
    so-long hunch.

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  4. To reveal or not to reveal – that is the question.
    Have you ever really considered what you would do if you found the treasure? Sure many searchers including myself would want to tell the world, the ego inside wants to blurt out to the world that you were the one to solve this five year puzzle. Even Mr Fenn predicts the type of person to find it won’t be able to keep their mouth shut.

    However after that individual has their 15 minutes of fame is that the right decision? Even Dal has said he is not sure if he would reveal it or not.

    There are many other factors to consider. What if it is on private land and you signed a non-disclosure agreement with the owner prior to searching? You risk loosing the chest if you disclose. Maybe the owner of the land doesn’t want all attention and those that will flock to the area to see for themselves.

    One could maximize the value of the chest by making it public and promoting the find. But as Mr Fenn will attest there are negatives to being a public figure and not all of us are equipped to handle it.

    Maybe the finder wants to just keep it and not sell it. One thing I have observed: it is human nature to take away what others have earned. One will have to be ready to defend their find and that costs money. Court battles, surveillance and security. The chase has brought out its share of nut cases, and many have threatened Mr Fenn’s life and tried to break into his home. Can you afford that kind of protection? Can you handle threats to your life? All things to consider.

    Of course keeping it quiet seems unfair; do not the other searchers deserve to know the answer? Is that right to keep them in the blind, continuing to search for a treasure that is no longer out there?

    We all know one can’t claim they found the chest because everyone will demand proof so some say they will just send the bracelet to Mr Fenn. But that may mean he will reveal the location and that may still end up singling you out if you have not covered your tracks.

    I know I have gone back and forth on what I would do and I wondered if there was another way to reveal but not reveal, a compromise so to speak. One of the options I reserved was to not reveal to Mr. Fenn or anyone I found the treasure but tell everyone the solution but leave it for each searcher to decide. Surely if the correct solution was provided they would be able to figure it out – or would they? Just an adventure story which explains in detail the correct solution and lets the searchers decide for themselves. With out physical proof Mr. Fenn will not be able reveal whether it has been found either – maybe those who have been within 200 feet already have the chest and made it appear to Mr. Fenn in their email that they had no clue they were so close. Something to consider…

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    • Hi Wolf –

      Interesting thoughts you have there……

      First, if one was to never reveal that they had found the treasure …. where is the fun in that? I would think you would just get bored sitting and looking at it. You might be able to sell some of the coins….without anyone knowing – but where is the accomplishment in that? I think the most value in the treasure would be to keep it in tact. You would also be passing up all kinds of deals to be made.

      I really don’t see a person – breaking into ones house to steal it…….. just tell everyone it is in a safety deposit box.

      I believe Mike had the very best suggestion – and that would be to place it in a hotel in Las Vegas.

      When I find the treasure – I will hire an agency and work with them to have certain hotels bid on it…….along with the story. Of course they would have to insure it and pay a nice monthly fee… with a guarantee. Can’t you just see Treasure Island saying – we’ve got to have that.

      This way you have instant money up front, a monthly income and have not sold the treasure.

      As far as letting the other searchers know it was found – that would be a priority that I would talk to Forrest about – as only he can make that announcement – and have it believed by everyone.
      And of course, I would return his bracelet to him.

      So, that’s my thinking on the matter and wonder what others would do.

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      • What the finder should do with the chest is all very cool to think about. Somebody has to find it first…which is obviously NOT easy to do.

        I think whoever finds it should contact Forrest first. I really hope and pray he’s around for a long while yet. He said that he thought of everything…so that has to include what the finder should do.

        I read about Mike’s idea a while back. Didn’t some hotel casino rent a boxing punching bag for something like 20 grand a month? It was some crazy amount like that. That is amazing! Maybe the finder could even have a luxury suite included in their “deal” for as long as the hotel wants to pay for the publicity draw. I’m sure it would attract a lot of free media advertising. That is way too cool to even think about. As if finding Forrest Fenn’s Treasure wasn’t cool enough already. Seriously!

        But, frankly, I find it hard to think about …because I have to go back to working construction tomorrow …again …without knowing where the treasure is. If I did know I’d go get it. I’m sure we’re all in the same boat. That goes without saying.

        Anyway, my 2 cents is…which is about all the cents I possess…is for whoever finds it to contact Forrest. I think that’s the wisest thing to do.

        It would be really hard to argue against that…right?

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  5. Merry Christmas, Everyone!

    The most powerful…and yet the most gentle and loving King ever born.

    Long Live THE King…and Happy Birthday to You, Sir!

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      • merry christmas lucky dog and a-team!!!

        present for all here….the key is in the box and is not locked. the key is out of the box thinking. you dont need a key to get IN.
        just so happens im in the keys today. 7 Mile Grill. bottom fishing on the Sea Dog. i hope its not a marathon. i only got eight lights. seeing dolphins colts sunday. hope the baby horsies cant find the end.

        happy holidays all
        full of xmas cheer, bob

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  6. Purely hypothetical question on a rainy day:

    If Forrest told you that he worked for an alphabet agency for many years, would that change how you feel about this treasure hunt?

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  7. What a day… late planes no trains….switch back and forth trice….I can use a nice cold blue moon and a smoke not a toke… I live in the airport for the day.

    Many think I am crazy. I was horse crazy before.

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    • Ok, i have posted a ton of information for all of you some of it is great stuff, I hope it can help someone to put together the find you ask why? I say because the answers i already know! and if it helps you great! I have my title so if one of you find the real title form it great!

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    • The Wolf – Hey,…is Spot available to go out out to my spot with me? The bigger one,…near the end,…looks like it would be perfectly capable to handle a Grizz encounter (they seemed to endure those kicks pretty well, anyway). And it would be so nice to have Spot carry the 42lbs for me. The first one kind of walked like an Elk,…while the second one reminded me of the movements of a Buffalo. And if anyone encounters one of those Spots “in the wood”,…Forrest did say that bear spray works on all kinds of creatures,…in that video caption with the Elk attacking the photographer. 🙂

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  8. After months of renovations, the Lounge is now open. Our specialty today is Shiley Temple (for those who don’t drink but want a good time). So post your funnies here!

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  9. Hi everyone! Still out here, waiting until I can make a final trip West. I have trouble posting on here for some reason. Hope you are all doing fine.
    I have my beverage mixed and I’m ready for my Super Bowl pick. I got it right last year. Remember my quote? Defense wins Super Bowls! My brother lives in Seattle and I have to support him and his team, so Seahawks win again!
    It’s hard to bet against the Patriots with two weeks to prepare. I respect their coach and quarterback. It’s a blood thing! Go Hawks!
    Cheers!

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  10. Thanks for the nice comments IWGOLF –

    I can’t remember what scrapbook number it was that Forrest posted his touchdown football – but it was pretty cool along with the story.

    I don’t know yet who I am selecting for this weekend as my hubby took my dart board.

    Here is the football line-up for next weekend –

    Saturday 1/10

    4.35ET Ravens at Patriots

    8:15ET Panthers at Seahawks

    Sunday 1/11

    1:00ET Cowboys at Packers

    4:40ET Colts at Broncos

    Ya all play now – post your favorite name.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbH60wCO-Yw&list=RDlFLEZmhFjyk&index=21

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  11. 🙂 ,

    Scores so far:

    IWGOLF 2 -2
    ASTREE 1-1
    INTHECHASETWO 3-1 ******* LEADER****** Congrats -U R A PEARL
    VGBOSS ?-?

    Make your picks TTOTC,

    RAVENS C ODE Ancient Secret.
    C HAWKS in a plane fly like a bird Top Gun.
    COWBOYS rope that Buffalo.
    COLTS youth in kids as in horses, pony pictures.

    Those are my picks for round playoff #2

    TTOTC possibilities,
    New England Veteran Soldiers of War !!!
    Carolina cats traverse the Rocky terrain among the mountains, got milk ?????
    Green Bay don’t forget all those guided Yellowstone fishing trips Pack Light sandwich.
    Denver is a unbroken wild horse like Donnie’s bronco with only 1 stirrup,
    ..UU….UU… though Orange Crush soda was only a dime at a time.

    Welcome any picks from anyone NEW and OLD, who can challenge N CHASE 2 lead !
    Time gives a whole weeeek for this entry, Open to ALL. How about it “LIA” ??
    🙂 Golf C & C S

    N chase 2 🙂 , LEADER 🙂
    Thanks for your kind contributions, as i type this out my under wood.
    Can we hear another Yahoo, cost a nickel, from RV Champion round #1 !!
    What Wisdom Will your round # 2 picks be ? per chance another Cowboy victory ?
    Like Golf 4 rounds, 1 @ END to claim Crown / Tiara trophy peace.

    **E** :),
    Love that Photo U took, your Skills and the use Lighted Letters is *E*Xcellent **E**
    BROWNstones, a nice place for a sandwich lunch
    I am touched by *E* Greeting Kindness, but alas CIA no pay $$$$ for Kryptos work.
    Make your picks, as we all love the research photo video Knowledge of your Posts.

    VGBOSS 🙂 , impartial
    Thank you for Steel Curtain video,
    I recall that treasure chest flying thru the air photo of Colt # 1 2, Luck in the first two pass clues.

    ASTREE :),
    DECOD
    EDWIN
    NERDA
    LLASK
    EYQAA

    A favorite of your’s Texas “Hook’m”

    🙂 GC&CS 🙂

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  12. 🙂 ,

    Playoff Picks: for 2015

    Cardinals – DO NOT TOUCH
    Ravens – C ODE
    Colts -Lightning Blaze
    Lions -ff fondness of exotic pets – UPSET special pick

    Based on ff TTOTC

    Cowboys -references also possible – favorite pick

    Hey Bartender,
    How about some old music ?

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3GEUtKclHk

    OK, get U’r picks in before game time,
    How about NTHECHASE2, the football rv fanatic ?
    Or,
    How about VGBOSS,
    What happened to your (U’r) Great Graphics !!
    & ALL the rest, LUCKYDOG & BOB & OTHERS

    LIST PICKS HERE !!

    ALMOST GAME TIME!!

    Open for anyone, including the Canadian Wolf !!

    🙂 HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON GREETINGS
    🙂 TGC&CS

    Mike, please remove duplicate first post please, the one awaiting moderation, sorry my error. Thanks

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      • 🙂 Astree,

        Happy Holidays 🙂

        So your going with the Cardinals,
        Any thoughts on the other games for Picks?

        So U like 1st 2 Clues [12] = “Y” for Column 9 “KE” [14 13]

        RED
        REDDISH
        BLACK & WHITE
        BLUE PRINT

        Well it is now going to be “COLD”,
        & “FIRE” Wood, may be required
        to secure that Golden Title.

        🙂 Match, Strike, Spark, Blaze, Fire, Light
        🙂 TGC&CS

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    • IWGOLF –

      Thanks for your posting!

      Yahoo – football time again !

      Carrie Underwood – is tops. Oh and Underwood is a typewritter too – but not the one you should be looking for.

      Now as for the playoffs –

      I am picking the Ravens, Colts, Cowboys, and Cardinals.

      Love my Cowboys –

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      • Inthechase, I hope your Cowboys pull off a win. I’m from Wyoming and since we don’t have a pro team I picked the Cowboys as my team, and some years the Broncos. But I’ve always thought the Seahawks had the best logo. I’m hitting the slopes a bit later today; enjoying family time. Best to your Boys!

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      • Hello, E*. I don’t think a football stadium will help anyone solve Kryptos 4, but a baseball field…hmmm…

        Don’t ask me. I’ve never watched a single baseball game all the way through, and it’s a rare occasion when I’ll watch The Super Bowl from beginning to end. I’m weird like that. I’ve never been to a pro football game, and I’ve only been to 3 college games…including one bowl game in San Diego MANY moons ago. 🙂

        However, working construction I’m surrounded by guys who are very passionate about “their” teams. I say GREAT! If basking in reflected glory improves their self-esteems…then who am I to poop on the party?

        See? I told you I’m weird.

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      • **E** 🙂 ,

        🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

        My other post didn’t give the proper Smile acknowledgement, so here is a couple Smiles 4U !

        🙂 Golf C & C S 🙂

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  13. 🙂 ,

    Playoff Picks: for 2015

    Cardinals – DO NOT TOUCH
    Ravens – C ODE
    Colts -Lightning Blaze
    Lions -ff fondness of exotic pets – UPSET special pick

    Based on ff TTOTC

    Cowboys -references also possible – favorite pick

    Hey Bartender,
    How about some old music ?

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3GEUtKclHk

    OK, get U’r picks in before game time,
    How about NTHECHASE2, the football rv fanatic ?
    Or,
    How about VGBOSS,
    What happened to your (U’r) Great Graphics !!
    & ALL the rest, LUCKYDOG & BOB & OTHERS

    LIST PICKS HERE !!

    ALMOST GAME TIME!!

    Open for anyone, including the Canadian Wolf !!

    🙂 HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON GREETINGS
    🙂 TGC&CS

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  14. World Hockey Juniors update – The battle for first place in the round robin Junior Hockey tournament in Montreal.

    Canada 2 – USA 0 midway through the second period

    Let the New Years celebration begin early!

    The Wolf

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  15. Not much talk in the lounge these days. It used to be vibrant and full of spirited talk as we tossed back a few.

    I was wondering what part of the woods do all of you searchers reside? I live hours east of Toronto. I think E* lives near the Sawtooth Range in Idaho (just going from memory).

    Tis the season for celebration and relaxation. I just started my holidays and I have a party to attend to tonight, so time to warm up and get ready!

    Let us all gather around and raise our spirits in a toast.
    I propose a toast to all you hard working and dedicated treasure seekers out there. I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and may your searching adventures in 2015 be enjoyable and successful as you live the thrill of the chase! And finally a toast to Forrest Fenn for bringing us all together with a common goal. Enjoy the outdoors, the mountains and especially your family and friends.

    Cheers!

    The Wolf

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    • The Wolf – I like my martini dirty,…with two Spanish olives,…shaken and not stirred,…and made with Blue Ice Vodka,…made from Idaho potatoes:

      Cheers and Happy Holidays! 🙂

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    • This toast goes out to E* – the most comprehensive researcher in the chase! And there are a lot of good ones out there!

      Please raise your glasses – to E*

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    • Where is Lynn D?

      Please stand up Lynn D and be recognized. I really appreciate what you did at the Vietnam War Memorial. A true patriot, a beautiful heart!

      Everyone please raise your glasses – a toast to Lynn D!

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    • What a great toast, E*. I’ll drink to that. (Glass held high…with hat tip to all the searchers and Forrest – The Creator.) I’ll also second the Merry Christmas wishes to all!

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    • Deb stand up and be recognized!

      Everyone gather around, raise you glasses to the true sprit of giving, The Thrill of The Chase’s Stalwart – the kind heart who donated her time and resources, made beautiful TTOTC bracelets and raised money so those who could not afford Forrest’s book – could have one.

      To Deb – Cheers!!!!

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      • I would toast to Everyone to has dared to dream, pushed past their comfort zone, and expanded their horizons with the Chase. Every person who dreams, if they post or not. We all are family, even the black sheep. Much love to all!

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      • Another worthy toast…to Deb! My wife absolutely LOVES her bracelet. You are very creative and have a keen eye for beauty. She will cherish her bracelet always.

        Thank you! Merry Christmas to you and all! 🙂

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    • Everyone gather around and raise your glass to Pamela Shetron, the lady who stood by her conviction. The one who uncovered the “ever drawing” clue and who ran the gauntlet of criticism and yet stood by Forrest through it all. To Pam the warrior!

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    • To a man with the biggest heart in the chase. He was so saddened by his 9 and 11 year old’s response to not finding the treasure that he had a real life treasure chest made of bronze (I am sure cost several thousand dollars) and filled it with his wife’s jewellery and dollar coins to place in the search area the next time his family returned!

      Everyone please raise your glasses to toast a seeker with a big heart – Jason!

      Cheers!

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  16. Everyone – And why have we all forgotten to hang out in The Lounge???

    I wanted to share my little miracle,…which happened yesterday. One of my favorite activities,…a few days after getting some great new snow,…is to go out hiking in it,…after the trails are packed down a bit. I drove to my easily accessible local spot,…walked a little ways,…then soon realized I would slip with every step,…as I went up and down the hills. My Salomon Snow Clogs,…which I had purchased from the local thrift store,…in new condition,…for only $12,…four years ago,…were completely worn through on the bottom! I returned to the car,…dejected. But then,…I drove right to that same thrift store,…and checked the shoe display,…where I found ANOTHER previously owned pair,…in my size,…with a few minor scuffs,…and what looked like no wear on the bottoms,…for ONLY $6. I was told by the local stores that they don’t make that shoe anymore,…that they hadn’t for a few years. To me,…THAT was a miracle!

    images.buzzillions.com/images_products/07/63/unisex-salomon-men-snow-clog_722928_100.jpg

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  17. My gosh, I have not posted on here forever and I am completely out of the loop on the TTOTC. Any big developments? I hope everyone is doing well! CHC

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  18. Hi all,
    It’s Friday and I just cracked the first cold one!
    I just wanted to let my friends on this great blog, know that I am still around and haven’t given up. I wish I had more time to participate.
    I also want to wish you all a HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
    Enjoy!
    Luckydog

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  19. It seems like it’s about time for a “Lounge 2”. This page takes a long time to load…but seeing as how this is the place to share things that are “out of place” I better post this topic here.

    It took a little while for my wife and I to notice that our 7-year-old son is colorblind…but knowing that both of her brothers are colorblind…as well as numerous male cousins…it came as no surprise. However, within the last little while we’ve noticed that our almost 3-year-old daughter is also color-blind…which is not very common. It’s weird because neither my wife nor myself are color-blind.

    In their eyes, green and red are the same. Even deep red and black are the same…as well as all equivalent shades…like pink and gray. For example, my wife’s brother would ask my wife to tell him if the shirt he wanted to buy was, in fact, gray…because he didn’t want to wear a pink shirt. I wonder if I could even tell the difference between red, black and green tea. Probably not. 🙂

    I did a little research and found this…

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dalton

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

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  20. Have you ever wondered what to make of the contradiction between FF’s statements ”
    ‘All you need is the poem’ and ‘good research materials are the TTOTC and google earth and or a good map?

    I mean if all I need is the poem, then why is it that I need a map, GE and especially TTOTC. There are many who are ‘poem purists’ and many use the TTOTC like it is the Fenn Bible.

    My take on this dilemma is that the poem is all you need to solve the poem but one needs a map and or GE to make sense of the route to the trove. Where I think that the TTOTC comes in is after one uses the poem to solve the puzzle. There are subtle instances in the book that no one can make sense of if you read them or prioritize them over the poem. In fact one is more likely to find themselves being taken off track as the likelihood of picking all the red herrings over the correct hints is quite high.

    However, if one was too solve the poem first, then those very subtle hints in the book, will suddenly stick out like a sore thumb and will build the confidence necessary to walk to the trove with a smile on their face.

    So maybe those two statements do not contradict themselves after all.
    The Wolf

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    • We will never know until the treasure is found.

      If you look at the way the book is written it may lead you places . Maybe the treasure has more to do with those places than we realize.

      I read a lot of mysteries, maybe that’s why I look to the book and others don’t. Sure the poem leads you to the treasure but how do you find the treasure without using his words to guide you? Why would I not take advantage of his words while he is still around to give them ? All the things he has been writing lately should also be considered. I don’t buy the theory he is out to trick us. He hid it well and is doing his best to help everyone when he posts. Thank you FORREST if you are reading this.
      🙂

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    • The Wolf – I totally agree with your fine assessment. I liked the “like a sore thumb” part the best. Walking to the trove with a smile on my face? Well,…that all depends on whether or not My Grizz is in a good mood… 🙂

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  21. I saw this video for the first time today and after wiping away tears (from laughing so hard) I thought to myself, “Self, that’s kinda like you and Forrest Fenn! Just TRY to wash that chase out of your hair! HELP!!!!”

    LOL! 🙂

    But then there really IS that whole “Bridge on the River Kwai” thing goin’ on. i.e. MADNESS!!! …so it’s good to laugh now and then.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PKQE8FM2Uw

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      • Hello, E*. I know, right? Was it really necessary to blow the bridge to smithereens? It depends who you ask, I suppose. It’s kind of hard to…TRAIN…for a situation like that. 🙂

        To be clear, some bridges should be blown to smithereens…if only to stop invaders from killing innocent people.

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        • JC1117 – Yes,…invaders that kill innocent people,…but I don’t think the Grizz uses that make-shift log bridge to cross the creek, though. So no need to blow it up. 😉

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  22. I will be on the History channels “Pawnography” on July 31. So watch and have a laugh at my expense. If I cant find ff gold maybe I can win some here?
    ps – Yes I am smarter than Chumlee!

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    • mdc777 –

      That’s so very cool that you are going to be on that show. I watched it last night for the very first time. Please post a reminder for me – just before the date so I don’t forget to watch. Thanks!

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  23. A friend shared this page on Facebook this morning. I found it interesting and thought I’d share it, too…but, being a skeptic, I don’t believe the storyline that a dynamic duo sneeks into a cllassroom and creates art overnight. Since all the chalkboards are the same…and easily disassembled and reassembled…it would be much easier to take as much time as necessary to finish each one…on the same chalkboard…and then just swap it out during the night. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that the storyline is embellished a bit. They obviously think people will be more intrigued by it. I could be wrong, but I’m not buying it.

    www.quickmeme.com/p/3vw6x7

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    • I guess this might be a good place to post this since many of you bloggers are contributors over at Stephanie’s. I’m not registered there…for no real reason…but I do enjoy lurking there and everywhere whenever I can.

      I was just noticing last night that the main page is not updating the latest posts. It’s showing the last posts there…on the main page…as being on July 13th, but if I click on an individual topic it will show later posts. I noticed this because I like to find the latest posts and threads to read.

      Thank you to anyone who can address this over there…and Thank You Forrest Fenn. I just thought I’d throw that in there in case he stops by.

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  24. E*:
    Astree – And the Lord sayeth, “GO TEAM E”,…which He foundeth,…by using the anagram “ETAME”,…which was “Right Out” for the likes of E*,…and the path “FORTH”,…”2ADVENTURE” (which is, of course, “no place for the meek” bunny).

    And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large chu…

    It’s going to be a Heck of a Chase Victory Party,…there in Ranger Reid’s Yellowstone Park,…don’t ya think?

    Note: I said “Heck” and not “Hell” in the presence of Our Lord.

    We are going to have a victory party in Yellowstone, even if its not in Yellowstone ? 🙂

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    • Astree – Perhaps…..

      The collagen analysed was collected from a T. rex bone found in Montana. “What makes it possible is that it’s exceptionally well preserved,” says Asara. “You can’t walk into a museum and take a bone off a T. rex and get sequence data.”

      www.newscientist.com/article/dn13772-t-rex-kinship-with-chickens-confirmed.html#.U8G29yqF8WY

      I hope you can get a good night’s rest,…there in your tent,…in Montana. 🙂

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      • Astree – And since we are discussing Grizzes,…and that link mentions that a Mastodon bone was also used to do the collagen anaysis,…I thought I would mention that Grizzes tend to like open areas,…while Black Bears prefer the trees (but My Grizz likes to use the convenient tree lined trail to get to the camp for overnight raids). This environmental preference is not unlike how Mammoths preferred the plains areas and Mastodons preferred the Forest:

        mentalfloss.com/article/54120/whats-difference-between-mammoth-and-mastodon

        Mammoths tended to live in wide open plains, as demonstrated by their very elephant-like molars, each of which looked like a bony cheese-grater and was built to grind up tough grasses. Conversely, the word “Mastodon” literally means “nipple tooth.” This is because the grooves in their chompers reminded some 18th Century paleontologists of human breasts. High-crowned teeth like this are better suited for mashing leaves and twigs, and, appropriately, Mastodon remains are usually found in forested environments.

        And I noted this detail,…mentioned in the following link,…which made me think of how you can tell if a Grizz is a Grizz,…from quite far away,…because of their flatter face and distinctive hump:

        www.livescience.com/34446-mammoth-or-mastodon.html

        While similar in size and stature, fossil evidence shows that mastodons were slightly smaller than mammoths, with shorter legs and lower, flatter heads. Both species stood between 7 and 14 feet (2 meters to 4 meters) tall, and were covered in long, shaggy hair that protected them from the harsh conditions of their respective environments.

        But mammoths also possessed fatty humps on their backs that provided them with the additional nutrients necessary in their more northerly, ice-covered habitats.

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    • Why do I always have to make coffee? I’m WORKING on the treasure hunt!!!!

      A man and his wife were having an argument about who should brew the coffee each morning.

      The wife said, ‘You should do it because you get up first, and then we don’t have to wait as long to get our coffee.

      The husband said, ‘You are in charge of cooking around here and you should do it, because that is your job and I can just wait for my coffee.’

      Wife replies, ‘No, you should do it, and besides, it’s in the Bible that the man should do the coffee…’

      Husband replies, ‘I can’t believe that, show me.’

      So she fetched the Bible, and opened the New Testament and showed him at the top of several pages that it indeed says ‘HEBREWS’

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    • If you “feel bad” about drinking beer in the morning there’s a “feel good” alternative to be found in Fisherman’s Coffee or Irish Coffee. If you’re going to be operating heavy machinery (around coworkers you dislike) you should probably stick to decaf…without the booze.

      Poor little chickens, anyways… 🙂

      dailypicksandflicks.com/2012/06/30/daily-picdump-505/i-dream-of-a-world-where-chickens-can-cross-the-road-without-having-their-motives-questioned/

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          • .
            SI…thanks much, E*. My distance visoon isnt always up to snuff.

            Just resd about yout search trip @ Tea with Olga. Sorry it didnt go as smoothly as possible, but created some memories, yeah? And you recovered quickly. Great to get out on the road like that..

            astree

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          • Yeah, thanks, E*. I was having a really difficult time trying to locate the cover that Astree pointed to. (preposition) I have to admit that following Astree can be challenge much of the time.

            Now that I can see it, Astree, I assume you’re talking about the very red and black cover with Trout wearing an Angels hat and “too many men on the ice” mentioned in the upper right corner of the area. Of course, “BEYOND A SHADOW OF A TROUT” stands out in very BOLD lettering. I see that very clearly. Who could possibly miss THAT? A nods as good as a wink to a blind bat! 🙂

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          • Astree – Yes,…thank you for your comment,…I was pretty depressed yesterday morning,…feeling more disappointed in myself than ever. I just wanted to crawl under a rock and die. Everything in me said THIS was the moment in time,…and ONLY this. I felt the same despondency late last night,…but a certain thrill, too. I think I was right there,…where they filmed the last scene of “A River Runs Through It”,…in the Red Rocks area,…just off Hwy 191,…as I drove along the Gallantin River. And I saw lots of other drainages I had been scoping out for more than a year. Everything was truly, surrealistically beautiful. And I will always treasure everything I saw yesterday. But there is one more beautiful and special place,…that I will someday go….

            p.s. It was also nice that the Idaho Highway Patrol just flashed their “I Got You” lights,…while they were going in the opposite direction,…while I was on the Mesa Falls Byway (probably going about 55mph in a 45mph zone). I was in such an exhausted state,…I didn’t know I was exceeding the speed limit. But I pray to Archangel Michael a lot,…so he probably had something to do with that (he is the Patron Saint of policemen). At least he didn’t have to spend all afternoon protecting me from My Grizz, right? 🙂

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          • JC1117 – And as to your, “BEYOND A SHADOW OF A TROUT”, comment,…did I mention that I drove a ways,…just outside of town, here,…on the only cool, cloudy day this week,…to FINALLY read more of “The River Why”,…in my quiet car,…with the windows open,…on a bluff,…overlooking a beautiful river bottom? I read a few more chapters,…but the one I liked best was about Gus putting his little brother, Bill Bob,…to bed,…with a nightly ritual of Bill Bob telling Gus stories until Bill Bob fell asleep. In my mind,…that chapter,…when Bill Bob tells about his pre-birth memories of what our Shadows really are,…was revealing. It actually moved me to tears. I highly recommend this book (some of the reviews are in this link):

            www.amazon.com/The-River-Why-Twentieth-Anniversary-Edition/product-reviews/1578050847

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          • JC1117 ,

            Yes, A Challenge. But you caught the ref to 42 ?

            E even more memories…disappointment is part of the learning / game it seems…Rocky said it’s about getting back up.

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          • Astree – Yes,…getting back up,…and then RUNNING TO THE TOP OF THE STAIRS,…and then onward,…to victory! I always liked that “Rocky” movie,…thank you! And it is truly amazing what a good night of sleep, a hot shower, a car wash, and the kindness of a detail crew can do,…to adjust one’s attitude. I tend to be obsessive about my car,…especially right now,…because I may be required to sell it.

            And I certainly got the “Strike Zone” and the “42” and the “A” and the “Red Black” references,…wink, wink,…nudge, nudge,…say no more. 😉

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          • .
            And, then several hours later, wikipedia updated its main page, with the first entry

            Did you know…

            From Wikipedia’s new and recently improved content:

            … that the Trout Inn (pictured) in Lechlade was originally a 13th-century almshouse?

            upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Trout_Inn%2C_Lechlade_01.JPG/1024px-Trout_Inn%2C_Lechlade_01.JPG

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
            ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

            E*, in reference to your “wink”, check this out, Forrest skip 3 ..

            I’ve done it tired and … N(ow) I(‘m) W(ea)K

            WINK
            K-WIN

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          • Astree

            you are the first person ive seen put that together online. well done if i may say so

            this is the line i believe f was referring to when he said, It is fun to arrange words in such a way that you have to smile at the end of a sentence

            fenns hints, well, he never makes them that easy.he isnt going to tell us ‘wink’ is at the end of a line, because this is an important hint, we have to figure this stuff out for ourselves

            there is a very strong smile/wink connection in this puzzle and thats why the HL Mencken is mentioned in the book and he substitutes Smile for Wink

            so in this line , ‘and now im weak’, he hints at WINK as you pointed out, and in his hint he says SMILE at the end of the sentence. a hint substitution, but the connection is there if you can SEE it (or maybe sometimes you can’t see it because you had to close one eye because someones aim was a little off and splashed some milk in it)

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            .
            Thanks, Chris. I know that you are one of the few looking at these things, re: posts of yours like “STOUT HEARTED MEN”

            I was wondering why he didn’t arrange it something like … “ at the end of the sentence, you have “to smile” .. which opportunity for entendre he often takes.

            And, in the attached image, there’s a “LECHE (milk) IN “I”” ( = EACH LINE ) in the bottom right corner.

            I’m going to step off into the ether for a moment, and since this discussion is repeating TROUT, to make an even more tenuous connection, related to certain architecture.

            I’ve done it tired and NOW I’m WOrN

            The following is p. 30 from a puzzle called “Maranatha – Et in Arcadia Ego”. It is encoded in a simple substitution cypher called Pig Pen (although a Freemason cipher can also be used in places).
            TROUT – RT OUT.

            Skip THREE from the ETHER. At the start (upper left) SKIP 3rd letter, to get WINK ( analogous to the end of the Fenn line, when using the SKIP 3 ELS).

            a YATES message there too

            i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/astree0/Maranatha/Maranatha_NonCore/M_ToC_12Jul14_YATES_TROUT_zps6476e3e3.jpg

            astree

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          • Astree – When you said “TROUT – RT OUT”,…that made me think of this scene,…and that the letter E is the fifth letter of the alphabet (but Holy Hand Grenades only work for obliterating enemies like that terrible meek bunny,…and “Five is right out”,…certainly doesn’t apply to me, anymore):

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk

            WINK 😉

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          • Astree – And the Lord sayeth, “GO TEAM E”,…which He foundeth,…by using the anagram “ETAME”,…which was “Right Out” for the likes of E*,…and the path “FORTH”,…”2ADVENTURE” (which is, of course, “no place for the meek” bunny).

            And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large chu…

            It’s going to be a Heck of a Chase Victory Party,…there in Ranger Reid’s Yellowstone Park,…don’t ya think? 😉

            Note: I said “Heck” and not “Hell” in the presence of Our Lord.

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          • That’s funny, E*. Just tonight I was driving the family home from a “night on the town”…i.e. eating burritos…when the six-year-old saw something out the window and said, “What the?” (short pause) to which the 2-year-old quickly blurted out, “HECK!”

            LOL!!!

            Where do they learn this stuff? I don’t think it’s from me because the 2-year-old would have blurted out, “FRICK!” …or the like…whether my wife likes it or not. 🙂

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  25. Here We Go!!!

    It will be difficult for the USA Soccer Team to defeat Germany’s Soccer Team but it’s not impossible. GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL!!!!

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      • Hi E*,

        I love the comment that Ronaldo (of Brazil) made about Suarez.

        “Why do you want my opinion on Suárez?” he said in Portuguese. “I never bit anyone!”

        It’s awesome when video cameras can capture such disgraceful conduct, isn’t it? That bite will cost Suarez a whole lot more than $100,000 in the long run. Will the real Suarez please stand up? Oh! It looks like he already did. 🙂

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        • I’ve always wanted to go to Brazil – especially Rio. Wonder if there are any cruises out of there – Yes, Mike – I’m getting closer. Also wondering why someone else, buried in the Chase went there.

          Isn’t Ronaldo smart too !!! 🙂 Oh my! Oh my!

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          • inthechaseto – Yes,…as Deb said,…smart men,…like Christiano Ronaldo,…are perfectly capable of locating and retrieving Forrest Fenn’s treasure,…without having to debase or objectify themselves,…with any women like us,…to do so. I certainly would never disrespect him,…if he were to agree to be my partner,…on “The Chase”! Ojalá que Si! 🙂

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        • Hi Inthechaseto,

          I went to Rio…once. What a memorable trip that was!!! I’ll remember it for the rest of my life. Now if only I could get back there…someday. I almost feel like I left something there. You have to be “wise”…in Rio, though. You know the old song “I left my heart in San Francisco”? Yeah, well…a lot of people wind up leaving their wallets in Rio…and not by their own choosing. There are a lot of “distractions” in Rio. I recommend a man keep his wallet in his front pocket.

          I thought my wallet was stolen in Rio once. It took almost a week to realize I’d just misplaced it. Lucky me. Of course, I still had to go all the way back to where I accidentally misplaced it…which was not easy. Some very kind people called to tell me they found my wallet. There are good people all over the world, you know?

          I should learn to be more attentive. My wallet is now on a chain…so I MIGHT be a redneck. 🙂

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    • It’s Friday! I’ll take a drink….. I mean I’ll have another drink, please.
      Thanks! TGIF
      Happy Summer Solstice everyone! 🙂

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      • Hello E*,

        A Mechanical Bison riding contest sounds great! You’ll have to let me know if somebody finds the chest while I’m away. Then, at least, I can come to the Chase Victory Party! That would be so awesome. I hope it happens within the next 20 years so Forrest can be there in person…instead of just taxidermied and standing in the corner. If that’s the case, I might not go to the party. Awkward! 🙂

        Sorry, I’ve been really busy today packing for another out-of-town business trip. I leave in the morning. If my presentation goes smoothly I should be able to head back home quicker on this trip. I already made contact with the board of directors this go ’round, so I feel a bit better this time. What shall be, shall be…they tell me.

        T Minus Nine…

        www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rush/countdown.html

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5vPrrnb6tw

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        • JC1117 – Go with confidence today! I am sure you’ll do great with your presentation. And when you said “within the next 20 years”,…I thought of that cartoon,…on the Old Santa Fe Trading Company Resource Page,…showing the skeleton sitting in front of the computer,…107 years later (scroll to the bottom):

          www.oldsantafetradingco.com/the-thrill-resource-page

          Then I thought of mummification,…as being the best and most appropriate way,…to preserve Forrest’s remains,…considering his interest in archaeology,…and then maybe he could join us for the Chase Victory Party?:

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxZc0tyTqEg

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          • Thanks, E*. Thank you very much!

            Just when you think the mummy is only dust…that’s gone with the wind…or under the rug…IT RETURNS! I hate when that happens. 🙂

            Wow. Long day. I better get some rest for my presentation tomorrow. I’ll need a quick mind so I don’t turn all the board members into totally, bored members. I’ll need them all to listen good.

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    • I think I used to watch that. lol Cant remember the name of it but it was during the years when that Grizzly Adams program was around. 🙂

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  26. Today is a good day. No cancer in my biopsy. Yay! Didnt know how I would be of use to my daughter if I had cancer.

    Megs surgery has been scheduled for July 7th. The surgical oncologist will be teaching the general surgeon his procedure to save legs. So relieved to hear that. 🙂 So not only will my daughter have a better chance but so will other people. The oncologist specializes in preserving and restoring legs.

    So life moves on, as it should. 🙂 Its a good day! 🙂

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  27. Hi folks, I have a 4 question survey where you can voice your opinion on who, where and when the trove will be found that I need to finish up before I can publish the results. I need 50 more responses and then I can let everyone see the results. I would appreciate it if you can take 10 seconds to complete the survey. Thank you

    www.surveymonkey.com/s/FC22Q3Q

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  28. deb: What if the solve combines many different parts of many different pictur

    Well. FF told us all you need is the Poem. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Yeah, I have the book, but I don’t (never) add anything to the poem.

    Regards,
    Scott

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  29. Has anyone ever considered the fact that the chest is not actually “in the mountains”? I have a solve that is so perfect, the chest has to be there. However, it is not technically in the mountains.

    By the way – Astree would be very impressed with the location. It is so simple and there is nothing else that fits (NM, CO, WY, MT). Might as well put a sticky-note on the map.

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    • That’s the kind of thinking that Forrest expects of all of us. I’ve had an idea all along that the treasure is not in the mountains at all! It’s in a lake…and not just any lake.

      Furthermore, there’s a chance that not only will a very lucky person stumble upon the treasure there, but The Lady of the Lake might just appear and hand that person Excaliber! You don’t believe me? Stranger things have happened, my friend. …Now where did I leave my bowl of Cocoa Puffs?

      And once that person has Excaliber in their possession just think how much BETTER that person will feel about himself or herself…like in a class of their own.

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXmwK2-R2dY

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      • Uhh guess I better not reveal my solve to you then.
        There are some archaic word definitions that may suggest that things are not as they appear. Does that make me crazy?

        Maybe it does! Or maybe it makes me someone who thinks differently than most?

        My solve is anything but average. If I told you the trail I have followed, you would not believe it.
        What if the solve combines many different parts of many different pictures that are interwoven to form a bigger picture based on many of the things that Forrest has valued and cherished in his life?
        Would you even give that thought a chance? What if thats where the imagination comes in? The ability to see a pattern and tie it to a physical place? 🙂

        Maybe I am crazy! LOL

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        • Mmmm…Cocoa Puffs. And all that cocoa is good for the Yang. Just ask Moctezuma

          www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-features/6213665/Moctezuma-the-leader-who-lost-an-empire.html

          …which is somewhat fitting on this Cinco De Mayo…except the Spanish Conquistadores were the captors instead of the French.

          The soundtrack to the Excalibur video above is from another favorite band of mine, Juno Reactor. You can look up another song of theirs, “Pistolero”. Which is also fitting today…and when on The Chase…and being chaste…I mean chased.

          The choir lyrics from “Navras” which are in Sanskrit and are translated here:

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=kex6JNjtKfQ

          Talk about cuckoo. It’s all fun and games…until someone loses their third eye. 🙂

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          • JC1117 – I always eat my Cocoa Puffs,…with that chocolaty milk,…out of a golden cup,…doesn’t everyone? And where was Fox Mulder,…to say, “Trust no one”,…when Cortez arrived on the scene?

            And I didn’t realize that the “Navras” music was from the sound track of, “The Matrix Reloaded”,…which is a video I must now post:

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9qqLrdOzDg

            In order to illustrate this point;

            The Oracle: What about the others?
            The Architect: …What others?
            The Oracle: The ones that want out.
            The Architect: Obviously they will be freed.
            The Oracle: I have your word?
            The Architect: What do you think I am? Human?

            I don’t think any of us are going to be allowed to leave “The Chase”. 🙂

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      • I noticed that the choices weren’t “all inclusive” as well. I left a few of the questions blank because I didn’t totally agree with any of the choices given. Therefore, not a super high score. I guess I’m not a very deep thinker. Whew! That’s a relief. That takes a heavy load off MY mind. LOL!

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  30. Beets are very good for your liver. I contracted hep A from one of my kids, ended up on a transplant list before my liver woke back up.( Thank you public schools for protecting the privacy of the other student who came to school sick.)

    Beets took away the pain very quickly. So if you know anyone with a liver problem you may want to suggest beets to them.
    I like them baked. 🙂

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  31. E*:
    Astree – OK,…per your request,…I will now divulge my secret treasure,…THE restaurant,…with this photo hint:

    www.facebook.com/SVdiavola#!/photo.php?fbid=452196081466825&set=a.452195758133524.105672.452185234801243&ammp;theater

    I LOVE pizza from a wood fired oven. You have excellent taste! My wife’s uncle and aunt have a large coffee farm in Caconde, Brazil. They cook pizza “old school” style in Brazil. I love it.

    m.facebook.com/pages/Pizza-Na-Ro%C3%A7a-Caconde/137540543061858?id=137540543061858&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpages%2FPizza-Na-Ro%25C3%25A7a-Caconde%2F137540543061858

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    • Pizza Na Rosa basically translates to Pizza in the Country…which sounds better than Pizza on the Farm.

      They have a different interpretation of pizza in Brazil. You’ll see the first pizza has broccoli and bacon on it. The second looks like a really good pepperoni. And the third looks like something I wouldn’t want to eat. 🙂

      www.blogdacarla.com/dicas/sexta-feira-delicia-pizza-na-roca/

      I’m sure THE restaurant must totally rock.

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3eEDDjtQxA

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      • JC1117 – I had that, “I’ll have what she’s having”, experience,… the other night,…at THE restaurant,…when the customer next to me,…sitting at the bar,…saw that I had ordered that night’s Special Pizza: Roasted Beets, Guanciale (like jowl bacon), Goat Cheese, and Carmelized Onions. That is probably my favorite. They also offer fresh arugula,…to enjoy on top of any pizza ordered. There are a lot of Italian immigrants,…who relocated to South American countries,…like Brazil,…so I am not surprised,…that they know how to make pizza (See: the eruption of Vesuvius,…near Naples):

        www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/historyonline/italian_immigration.cfm

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        • They go crazy for arugula in Brazil. And THE restaurant sounds REALLY delicious…and the Special Pizza sounds good, too…except for the roasted beets, imo. I’d have to replace those with some roasted artichoke hearts or something.

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          • JC1117 – May I recommend a substitution of broccolini or brussels sprouts? They are both offered,…as popular side dishes,…at THE restaurant (the brussels sprouts are prepared with bacon,…then topped with goat cheese).

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          • Very good suggestions, E*. I’m a huge fan of broccoli and broccolini and brussels sprouts especially with cheese and bacon. I eat most anything including beet tops, but I’ve never grown to like beets for some reason.

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  32. azuredeb:
    Thats very cool. A piece of history.
    Btw,my grandson is named after him. I tried to get them to name him Lincoln, but they went with Abraham.Now you know the kids will call him Ham! lol

    If they call him Ham just tell him to respond that he’s related to Sir Francis Bacon. Voila! Instant Respect! Everyone loves Bacon. (Ham…Bacon. See what I did there?)

    And speaking of Abraham…and folks who can’t eat ham OR bacon.

    God said to Abraham, “But for me, you would not be here.”
    “I know that, Lord,” Abraham answered, “but were I not here, there would be no one to think about you.”
    – Traditional Jewish Tale

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  33. I wonder E* do you live in Las Vegas by chance all the references to “THE” everything? I always loved how they put all those little stickers on everything including” The T.P.”.

    If thats the case, I would advise going outside for some fresh air. I hear all that 2nd hand smoke is THE worst.

    Yep, not my choice that the adult kids made that choice. Now she is paying for it. Thanks for the laughs. I needed that.

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      • I think that so.me of those people were interviewed by Linda Moulton Howe and broadcast on Coast to Coast AM. I love listening to that show when I have time. I used to listen a lot many years ago. I haven’t listened for about 5 years or so. I haven’t even listened to Art Bell since he came back from Manila.
        There are many “out there” subjects that I really enjoy…like Squawsnatch, for example…or Sasquatch…I forget. Does it really exist? And is it as hairy as those who have seen it claim that it is? Inquiring minds want to know. 🙂

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r3Xs9sBEVg

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        • JC1117:

          I think that so.me of those people

          There are many “out there” subjects that I really enjoy…like Squawsnatch, for example…or Sasquatch…I forget.Does it really exist?And is it as hairy as those who have seen it claim that it is?

          Yes, there are other names too, like AbdominalSnowman.

          As far as UFO’s, I think that there’s quite a bit of confused / wishful / fearful thinking going on.

          The conspiracy angle says that it’s government cover-up for military aircraft, and maybe that makes some sense, but is it really fooling the intended audience ? ( the intelligence agencies of the enemy ). I try to keep an open, but critical, mind on the subject.

          Spies

          and hoping that Forrest isn’t using this trick.

          astree

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          • Astree – I loved that “Spy Vs. Spy” cartoon video,…and when you said “trick”,…it made me me think of Magicians’ terms,…especially this one:

            magic.about.com/od/glossaryofmagicterms/

            Misdirection is the process of making an audience look elsewhere while you perform a secret move. Misdirection can come in many forms. Perhaps best known is an action, object or event that draws spectators’ attention away from something that the magician doesn’t want spectators to see.

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      • JC1117 – I think I saw that “Unsolved Mysteries” episode years ago,…that is one of my favorite shows. Did you see this one?:

        unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/John_Wilkes_Booth
        www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcozhIHMq3U

        I really like this show, too,…and they covered the same topic recently:

        www.history.com/shows/brad-meltzers-decoded/videos/brad-meltzers-decoded-the-lincoln-assassination

        And what did you mean,…about those triangles,…being “highly strange”? ???????! ?

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        • Hello E*,

          If you’ll go to that www.ufoinfo.com/ufonewsuk/v01/0119.shtml link I posted and scroll down a little to “AERIAL TRIANGLES OF HIGH STRANGENESS” and read a bit I think you’ll see what I mean…especially the second and third paragraphs.

          What I gleaned from it is there are certainly flying objects that are not from around here…and unidentified. You know what I mean? Isn’t life strange? I’d like to ask that guy what he thinks that weird craft was doing. Highly strange, indeed.

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        • That’s fascinating history about Abraham Lincoln. I know a lady who inherited a really big 34 star American flag from her father. It’s about 8 feet by 12 feet. The 34th star was sewn on later. There’s also a large eagle painted on the flag in solid black. Some people think the black eagle was painted there to mourn Abraham Lincoln’s assassination. I wonder if Forrest would care to see it. I haven’t even seen it. She described it to me over the phone just a few days ago.

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  34. Well, I have reduced my 100% solve to – 85% – after finding more clues. I have to relax for awhile and regroup.

    So, I am going to watch the CMA Awards tonight and hope George Strait wins Entertainer of the Year. Come on George – WIN.

    PS – I wonder if he jumps that horse of his?

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jJf-p6RYvo

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  35. My wife posted this:

    aplus.com/a/woman-befriends-homeless-man-brazil

    Which reminded me of this:

    No Man Is An Island

    No man is an island,
    Entire of itself,
    Every man is a piece of the continent,
    A part of the main.
    If a clod be washed away by the sea,
    Europe is the less.
    As well as if a promontory were.
    As well as if a manor of thy friend’s
    Or of thine own were:
    Any man’s death diminishes me,
    Because I am involved in mankind,
    And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
    It tolls for thee.

    John Donne

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    • JC1117 ,
      This is probably one of my favorite poems , ever since I read Hemingway’s “For Whom The Bell Tolls ” . I lived in England for 19 years , and read a lot of John Donne’s love poetry .
      Thanks for posting this poem .

      Rebel

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    • JC1117:

      No Man Is An Island

      No, man is an island ?

      which seems to be addressed by another:

      What is this thing called, Love ?

      ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      I think Forrest is extremely crafty in his phrasing, and interpretation – commas, captial letters, periods and all the rest.
      ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      Great ending to the Brazil video. What caught me the most in it, was that he was focusing his mind, writing, even amidst his condition.

      astree

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  36. E*:
    Geydelkon – I loved that movie,…and Sean Connery in it,…but no,…I have not seen it discussed on Dal’s blog or this one. If you liked that submarine movie,…you may also want to rent this one:

    Here is a quote from the movie:
    You’re blaming yourself, Captain.
    It was an accident.
    You’ll feel better
    when we put in.
    Put in?
    Well, to base, Captain.

    www.imdb.com/title/tt0316824/

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    • All this talk about “Put in”? Whatever you do, DON’T do a search for “Putin’s flexible girlfriend”. It really makes me question why the most powerful man in the world would bother telling Putin he could be “more flexible” during his second term. What was that all about? Do they think they’re playing a game? Talk about a wolf in sheep’s clothing…except both of those wolves have launch codes.

      I also must apologize…again…because the dialogue above…with the Captain…reminded me of this.

      “How long is it”, you ask? ….it’s only about 3 minutes.

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sljSf7KVlQ

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  37. How time flies by….today marks my one year on the chase. Got a phone call from my mom and she told me about it. I started looking at the so called running man and f carved into the trees. I don’t see it. I see something else. Have a great day.

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  38. Bartender! Drinks for everyone, make mine buttermilk! LOL

    Yes I said buttermilk, no excuses its Forrests favorite. Mine too by the way. 🙂 Drank lots of it with my grandparents who were from Texas.

    I am celebrating that my daughters tests show no signs of cancer! Woohoo! There is nothing worse than feeling there is nothing you can do to help someone you love.

    Have a drink everyone, and enjoy the day! 🙂

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  39. Happy Birthday to all.

    Deb, the bracelets are great.

    VG, come on, post your search story. You have put a lot of time into it, and we are all looking forward to it. Please don’t let us down.

    Still around, just too busy,
    Luckydog

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  40. Yesterday I was ready to give up. The online abuse got to me. Today, Im ready to kick some butt and give as good as I get. 🙂
    Part of that was stress, the rest just anger . Heaven knows I know better than to give in to that weakness. It solves nothing . I learned that long ago. 🙂

    I finished the bracelets if anyone wants one please Email me at :
    azuredeb@hotmail.com

    I will try and get some pics up at my wordpress blog so you have an idea of what they look like. Then you can tell me what you think its worth.

    I got the idea when. Dal emailed me asking if I could meet someone in my town who had cancer and couldnt afford his own
    book. The problem was I have written all through my book. So I
    contacted Stephanie and she handled him getting the book.
    She has purchased books for others, I have also. I just thought if I could do this with your help we could make a difference for others.
    I did ask Forrests permission before I did this. If I cant sell them I will just donate them to him to hand out to searchers.

    Email me if interested.

    azuredeb@hotmail.com

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    • Hey deb ,
      Please don’t give up . You are one of the people who I find most interesting on the blogs , and often you are the main voice of reason .
      So hang in there please . You would probably miss us if you left .
      Rebel

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      • Thank you. I thought about the poem, the book and what it could be represented as.There is room on each one to add more charms or beads. I wanted them to represent the chase.

        People can talk to me about what is fair, I am flexible . 🙂

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  41. vgboss:
    Ego? Me, vgboss?
    Take that back inthechaseto or else I won’t be nice in posting my search story and I will just go in peace. Now I see why the majority elect to remain lurkers.

    What in the heck is wrong with a big ego? It helps you continue – it helps push you along. If you can’t see the forest for the trees – so be it. I guess I’ll have to spell it out.
    I think you are great – in your contributions to this website – but as a treasure hunter – how do I know? We will figure that out in the end. 🙂

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    • Hi inthechaseto,
      I’m o.k. with the comments , because I know who I am , and am comfortable with myself . You haven’t offended me.

      It’s snowing in North Georgia people . Nothing serious , but snowflakes all the same . Maybe I will have a white birthday tomorrow ( 71 years young ) . Now don’t everyone rush out to buy me pressies . lol

      I have attached a pic of me catching “40” winks , on one of my trips to search for the “Fenn” treasure . Here is a little about me . I live in North Georgia . I am married , and have three daughters , nine grandchildren , and two great grandchildren . My health has now reached the point that I probably won’t do much if any more physical searches . Too many things wrong to mention , but especially heart and lung problems and the altitude of the ” Rockies” don’t play well together . lol

      Wishing everyone the best of luck and good fortune as you continue in your quest for the “Fenn” treasure .

      Rebel

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    • My beautiful…I’m sorry. Forrest Fenn wanted us all to have fun with his Thrill of the Chase and all that comes with it and God knows I’ve tried very hard to do so but even vgboss has his limit of party poopers.

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  42. Rebel:
    Hi inthechaseto,
    I would have to disagree strongly about never giving clues . Over a period of time I have on several occasions given clues that I consider relevant to a solve , so it’spossible you missed them . As for the ego thing , I’m only agreeing with VG that I believe it may have been found and the finder is staying quiet .
    Rebel

    Rebel shared his solve with me. I urged him to go search with his family. I dont see him as having a big ego. 🙂 He is a kind thoughtful man, not centered on himself.

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    • Deb ,
      Thanks for that . I consider myself to be a humble person , and I believe my friends who have known me for many years would agree . On a lighter note , that song “its hard to be humble when you’re perfect in every way”, does get played by me occasionally . ha ha
      And Deb I have found you to be a genuine , nice person too . There are more nice people in this world than bad . I firmly believe that , tho’ I have been bitten a few times too .
      Rebel

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      • LOL. I have never met a perfect person before. 🙂 Mostly we have feet of clay. In my case , I walked too far in the mud and now they call me Big Foot. 🙂

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  43. vgboss:
    Ego? Me, vgboss?
    Take that back inthechaseto or else I won’t be nice in posting my search story and I will just go in peace. Now I see why the majority elect to remain lurkers.

    🙁

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    • VGBOSS,
      You are right about why many decide to be lurkers only . I think it would be nice if whoever finds it would let everyone else know , but I also feel that depending on the circumstances it might be very risky to do so . I personally don’t trust the government at all , and after seeing what Mel Fisher went thru after finding the ” Atocha ” , was proof enough for me . Now , if some the good people on here want to take that risk , after working so hard to solve this puzzle , then I say go for it , and if you lose everything then so be it .

      I think there are ways to let it be known if you find it and still remain anonymous , and also as it might be risky to say where it was found , I can understand not wanting to reveal that too . Some people would never be satisfied anyhow . They want to know exactly who you are , and exactly where you found it , etc., etc.
      I believe I could find a way to let enough facts be known , that should satisfy people that it has been found without risking too much . There are ways , but there are also people who are never satisfied , and always push for more . I believe they are called ” NOSY “.
      Rebel

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      • I hear you Rebel loud and clear, majority simply would not be satisfied hence why I will no longer be posting my search story…sorry beautiful deb. 🙁

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        • VGBoss , I too am sorry to hear that . I always look forward to your productions , whatever they be …..written …video , etc . I know you must put considerable time into the things you have entertained me with over time , and I thank you .

          I hate to admit it but I guess I have become a VG productions ” JUNKIE” . lol

          Would like to have known you in a real place and time .
          Rebel

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      • Ok I am going to put this out here and stir the pot some. I dont think the treasure is hidden like everyone assumes.

        I believe when you get to that spot you will find something else that needs to be traded for the treasure.

        I dont believe he would risk his favorite things to the government seizing them.

        Call me delusional , but another meaning of the word COLD is hidden far from the search area. 🙂

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  44. www.surveymonkey.com/s/FC22Q3Q

    The following survey is your chance to voice your opinion about who has or will find the treasure, when and in what state anonymously.

    Please take the time to fill it out and I will announce the results when we get to 100. So the faster you reply, the quicker you will see the results.

    Note – it is only 3 simple questions

    Have fun!

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    • Another Monkey Q & A Survey? Ok I’m no Monkey but as for you not to hate I’ll take the bait and participate. vgboss is always game!

      (MS-Q): WHO WILL FIND (OR HAS FOUND) THE TREASURE?
      (MS-A): As I stated recently in posts, within this blog, I strongly, vewy strongly, believe that The Poem has been solved and the location of the Chest has been discovered. Who solved The Poem and discovered the location of the Chest you ask? I honestly believe that specific person currently wants to remain anonymous. Now this is my belief, thought and/or opinion; however you want to receive it.

      (MS-Q): WHEN WILL IT BE FOUND?
      (MS-A): Again as I stated recently…. I strongly, vewy strongly, believe the location of the Chest has been discovered. This is my belief, thought and/or opinion; however you want to receive it.

      (MS-Q): WHAT STATE WILL IT BE FOUND IN?
      (MS- A): To New Mexico, up to Colorado, back down to New Mexico. I strongly, vewy strongly, believe that is the route the person took to discover the location of the Chest. Again that is my belief, thought and/or opinion; however you want to receive it.

      The Thrill of the Chase!
      vgboss

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        • E* what are you actually suggesting? That I toss my written search story in the garbage followed by a match, send all video and photo files to the recycle bin and delete it all just as Kong fell several stories to his death or that I should fly to New York in search of a blonde bombshell with super powers? Either of those 2 E*? Oh and please don’t suggest that I should get shot at by drunken Snoopy in those mechanical flybirds.

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          • vgboss – I am vewy, vewy sorry,…if you misinterpreted my meaning. I meant that,… like Kong clearly realized,…there are other lovely things to grab besides bananas! He clearly fell for that blonde. 🙂

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      • Vgboss…. What gives you a spidey sense that someone has solved the poem. I know of one person who is MIA on all the blogs. I perhaps gave this person a window to look into. This morning I looked at my calculations and it was dead on. A redneck has the best chance in finding the solve. Children have a good insight in understanding the poem. Those with a certain education like ff, have the spirit to finding the chest. Many here, have stumbled onto the equation but were not in tight focus. There are 9 clues in the poem. Which one do you want to follow? I am using what I know best and the path less traveled because it works for me.

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        • Good afternoon Geydelkon. vgboss has spidey sense? I wish I had that gift, imagine the possibilities! Nah Geydelkon, what I do have is imagination, not much of it, but I have my moments.

          1 person MIA on all blogs? Geydelkon there are many MIA’s. If you go as far back as dal’s old blog many are missing in action, within blogs, to this very date.

          And so true Geydelkon, a redneck probably solved The Poem and found the Chest. Forrest Fenn did state this some time back.

          Once again I strongy, vewy strong, believe that The Poem has been solved and the location of the Chest has been discovered…spidey sense or not…simply my belief, thought, and/or opinion; however you want to receive it Geydelkon my friend.

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          • Exactly deb…family comes first no matter what is on the line. If it is meant to be it is meant to be. FAMILY!

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        • Rebel many in the past, within all blogs, have discussed what they would do if they solved The Poem and discovered the Chest and many did say they would like to remain anonymous. This is what we may have here or may be happening.

          Rebel we can’t forget what is stated within the Old Santa Fe Trading Co website:

          “There is always a chance that someone has found it and hasn’t made it public”

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          • I would hope they would as a courtesy to all the other searchers. People like Dal and Stephanie who have invested so much. Then they could move on to another dream.

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        • VG – Reb and Gey –

          I like men with big egos. You all fit.

          You have all solved the poem in your mind and know for sure – you are right. Then when you went to find it – you convinced yourselves – the treasure was gone.

          Not one of you have given a clue as to the final solve, or really any clues that show you know what you are doing.

          I can imagine the hardest thing in the world – would be to let go of your spot – it’s that ego thing again. To burn the bridges and paper work too – would be daunting.

          To start all over – at this point would be a humongous task – I don’t think I could do it.

          So keep on thinking it has been found – that’s just fine. That’s 3 more that will never find it.

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          • Hi inthechaseto,
            I would have to disagree strongly about never giving clues . Over a period of time I have on several occasions given clues that I consider relevant to a solve , so it’s possible you missed them . As for the ego thing , I’m only agreeing with VG that I believe it may have been found and the finder is staying quiet .
            Rebel

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          • P.S. , intct ,

            I have never claimed to have found the treasure , and I’m not claiming that now . Nor am I saying that I looked and it wasn’t there , so in that case someone must have beat me to it and found it .
            Rebel

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          • Ego? Me, vgboss? 🙁
            Take that back inthechaseto or else I won’t be nice in posting my search story and I will just go in peace. Now I see why the majority elect to remain lurkers.

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  45. Anything big happening? Did we find anything yet? I don’t feel like too much reading tonight. I found 38 cents metal detecting today and feel like I’m on a big roll. I may fly to Berlin and hunt for Hitler’s gold next. lol.

    The survey I put out there www.surveymonkey.com/s/DFC9563 is at about 70 or so responses. I was going to go over the data once it hit 100, but may just do it tomorrow since it’s kinda slow going.

    Good nite! CHC

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  46. E*:
    inthechseto – Did you mean the Solutrean Hypothesis?:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis

    There was sometimes a cache,…where Clovis (and maybe pre-Clovis) people,…kept their Clovis Point weapons,…near where they would traditionally hunt,…for convenience. I think that, most often,…that cache was in a cave location. I saw that in one of those PBS videos (which featured Forrest’s collection of Clovis points).

    Didn’t Forrest, the Archaeologist-and-Sometimes-Indiana-Jones, say he liked to keep things stashed away in cave,…where his family could easily get to it the next summer?

    🙂 Yes he did.

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  47. inthechaseto:
    Yep I would believe it.

    But = I’m betting the Solitarian Hypothesis – was not part of it.

    Nope, sure doesnt. 🙂
    But it does include some other ancient ones, and the betting was a part of the story too.

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    • deb – Are you speaking of Coriolanus,…and the beginning of the Roman Republic? I read the preface to Shakespeare’s play at the OTHER bookstore this morning. I guess in Shakespeare’s time, Plutarch was a good historical resource, for all-things-ancient-Rome.

      Or maybe you are speaking of the expulsion of James,…after that non-bloody-Orange revolution,…in England in 1688? Not ancient history, though. Hmmmm.

      I know! You mean Alexander the Great, right? Yes, that fits.

      What does ‘ancient’ mean to you? We could discuss Stonehenge or Egypt or Atlantis, if you like. 🙂

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      • LOL. I was using the traditional native term used for the Anasazi. Anasazi is not a complimentary term, it was chosen without consulting the native people.

        Yes the cultures you site are truly ancient.

        My solve is based on a history of myths and stories handed down from one generation to another throughout the history of man kind. These myths and stories sometimes predate written language. These stories tie to the actual roots of words and even the stars in the sky. Remember all those nightime illustrations and stories? 🙂
        Even religions are based this way. Something to think about?

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        • deb – I have thought about that,…a lot. Like when I found the ? symbol,…from about 3000BC,…in the Sumerian Bronze Age texts. Here’s another excerpt from a National Geographic article on that ancient culture:

          Their list of gods has about 2,000 entries. Sumerians believed in a whole shadow world of gods in every city. All the gods had their own families and servants, also made up of gods.

          The Sumerians wrote proverbs, too. Tinney’s favorite is “The road is bad, beer is good.” That, he said with a chuckle, seems to mean “travel is hard, but the beer is worth it.”

          The Sumerians also wrote the first known epic, Gilgamesh, consisting of a dozen different stories about a man’s quest for immortality. It started as a series of Sumerian myths and evolved into a Babylonian legend. One of them tells of a great flood, and of a man who builds a boat and loads it with pairs of each type of animal.

          That last part sounds kind of familiar, doesn’t it? 🙂

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  48. E* – I am intrigued by your posts. Can you provide some background from where all this information comes from? How do you plan on converting all that information into a solution or have you done so?
    Thanks!
    The Wolf

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    • Wolf – I would like to thank my Cerca Trova guide,…the generous Chasers ,…who, “put it out there”,…to bravely post on this blog,… and Forrest Fenn,…who wrote a lot of really great books,…with funny and poignant stories,…and a REALLY vexing poem,…and then any related deceased persons,…who have chosen to grace me with their insights and humor,… especially Mark Twain,…and who *Ever* else (you know who YOU are!). Thank you,…and the Academy,…for this Oscar,..for my first award-winning movie,…which was based on all of my experiences,…related to, “The Thrill of the Chase”,…which was largely based on that Pulitzer prize-winning book I wrote,… which included excerpts from, “The Unauthorized Autobiography of Forrest Fenn”,…written by Forrest Fenn himself,…and then placed in a mason jar,…which formerly held Spanish Olives,…with pimientos,… that he didn’t need anymore,… because, like you,…he no longer drinks martinis (except once a year,…so he knows why he DOESN’T drink them,…Cheers to THAT! Ÿ ). I am so fortunate to have found that bronze chest,…which enabled me to fund all of the aforementioned ventures. I have appreciated this entire journey,… courtesy of Forrest Fenn’s generosity,…and I am humbled and honored to receive this award,…and to have experienced, “The Thrill of the Chase”. 🙂

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      • Wolf – And in case you are wondering,…what E* REALLY meant,…by “any related deceased persons”,…consider the quote, “Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.”,…by Benjamin Franklin,…and this scene,…featuring Cole Sear (or, ‘Seer’?),…finally divulging HIS secret:

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSNyiSetZ8Y

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      • Wolf – Have you considered this quote,…in relation to what I REALLY meant,…by, “any related deceased persons”,…in my Oscar acceptance speech above?:

        “Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.” – Benjamin Franklin

        Here is Cole Sear (or ‘Seer’, maybe?) divulging HIS secret:

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUYKSWQmkrg

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          • inthechseto – Did you mean the Solutrean Hypothesis?:

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis

            There was sometimes a cache,…where Clovis (and maybe pre-Clovis) people,…kept their Clovis Point weapons,…near where they would traditionally hunt,…for convenience. I think that, most often,…that cache was in a cave location. I saw that in one of those PBS videos (which featured Forrest’s collection of Clovis points).

            Didn’t Forrest, the Archaeologist-and-Sometimes-Indiana-Jones, say he liked to keep things stashed away in cave,…where his family could easily get to it the next summer?

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          • inthechaseto – But just for fun,…I looked up ‘Solitarian’,…to get the Latin GT translation:

            Soli tarian > All his times, only to fall

            That doesn’t sound like my kind of “Hypothesis”!

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          • Yes that’s what I meant – thanks for the correction – I am blonde you know.

            I was wondering if that “s” hypothesis would relate to anything in NM – other than Forrest Fenn.

            You know what’s funny is my hubby said to me earlier this afternoon – that he wondered if after the treasure is found – they would make a movie about it. He thinks it would be great.

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  49. Hey bur! Happy st pats to you! Rounds are coming. Taking a break from the thrill of trying to understand what E is talkin about! Know what I mean? Man I had a great weekend! Went to Daytona for bike week all day Saturday and then Sunday had a free pass to the warbird air show here just 3 miles north of my house. I could have hiked through the forest, climbed fences, but I rode my Indian chief there instead. Sunburnt and tired, but it’s good to hang out with searchers at the lounge.

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    • Happy St Pat’s Day back at you. Bob, miss those Bikeweek Daytona Days and meets the week before at Salt Springs. So did you fly on any warbirds? That would be cool to run the stick on a mustang. I have been on a break from the chase just nothing really posted of interest pertaining to it lately that I see, so I just chat with myself on possible solves LOL. Hey William I’m headed to Kansas for the meet, have a green beer on me. Okay Bob keep it under 100. Bur

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    • Bob – OK,…I don’t know what’s going on here,…but,…two nights ago,…at THE restaurant,…I talked about that Indian motorcycle,… and how no one wanted to try to beat the speed record (so as not to dishonor the original record holder),…and how great Anthony Hopkins was,…in this movie:

      www.imdb.com/title/tt0412080/

      I am beginning to wonder if YOU,…or VGboss,…is really ME on this blog? 😉

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  50. E*:
    Astree – Another interesting Latin GT translation:

    nini > cre matorium > the award has grown

    I guess I just wanted another excuse to bring up that ‘nini’ or ‘ni ni’,…can be, “Ni!” “Ni!”,…which is what the Knights Who Say Ni will say,…’unless’ you bring them a shrubbery!

    Funny you should say that, E*. I AM A SHRUBBER! But….

    I never wanted to do this job in the first place!
    I… I wanted to be…

    A LUMBERJACK! (No offense to the forest.)

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpxQp3Hy5nk

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    • JC1117 – I found this definition of a lumberjack,…in the Urban Dictionary:

      Lumberjacks are the second most awesome people group, after Pirates, and before Ninjas.

      Real Lumberjacks have an ax and existed long ago and wear flannel, suspenders, and pants. They have hairy faces and kick ass. They will cut down any forest easy, because they are awesome.

      Fake Lumberjacks are the modern day lumberjacks who wear bright orange and they use chainsaws because they are too weak to use an ax. They also eat lots of flapjacks. Sing and breakdance.

      The most awesome lumberjack ever was Paul Bunyan, he was kickass.
      A lumberjack’s ax is NOT spelled with an e like “axe”. Only norsemen had axes.

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  51. E*:
    vgboss – I intend to find and retrieve ALL the skulls,…where *ever* they are hidden,… before you and the Phantom do! And a suggestion from the Shaolin Masters,…from their 72 Shaolin Secret Arts,…on your #20 strategy and training:

    E* In regards to your retrieving ALL the skulls statement…Well Forrest’s father would say to him, while out hunting, to grab every banana! Hopefully every Chaser out there has been wise in doing this…Forrest did say to hear him and listen good.

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    • vgboss – E*,…speaking to her Shaolin Kung Fu Master,…about grabbing ALL those bananas:

      E* : Yes, Master,…I will listen good,…as you instructed,…and as spoken,…in the 72 Shaolin Secret Arts. I will study the bananas,…from every angle,…devouring everything about them,…taking everything in,…while being silent.

      Shaolin Master: That is good, E*. And then, you will discover ALL the Golden Secrets, that have been hidden from those who were not silent, and who did not seen the blaze. And who were not good.

      Go in peace,…Grasshopper ?

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          • vgboss – But,…maybe R2D2 and C3PO traveled back to the future,…and,…uh,…maybe they WERE in ancient Egypt,…and then they were,…uh…made Pharoah and Vizier there (R2D2 was the Pharoah). And after saving all of Egypt from starving during the great drought,…they did many more great things,…so they got their hieroglyphs engraved on that thing in the video. The End. 🙂

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          • VG –

            You are so fun – Can’t wait to meet you someday.

            PS – if you think you have the poem solved – take my advice – keep on going – and ticking like a timex.

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        • vgboss – Yes. I can relate. And so can Bono. To Andrea Bocelli,…who is blind, but who can see,…a lot. I have Bocelli’s Romanza CD,…which features Bono on a song called, “Miserere”. They also did another one together after Andreas’s son was born (Bono does the spoken word introduction). Here is a video of a great live concert in Tuscany,…at the Teatro del Silenzio,… featuring Sarah Brightman on “Time to Say Goodbye”, …at 1:31 near the end:

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlH3AWBJZEI

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          • vgboss – I knew you would be deeply moved. I have headphones on here,…so it is even better than listening to that “Romanza” CD (which is currently buried in storage). Where is my glass of Poliziano “In Violas” Merlot,…from the Tuscan Montepulciano region,…Bartender? May I have a glass of that, please? I wish I was there,…drinking it,…in that unmatched Teatro del Silenzio setting.

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        • VG…one of my favorite songs , bought that CD more than 20 years ago , and I still listen to it , but on my ipod or tablet now .

          I’m a big fan of Bocelli too .

          Rebel

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    • “Hey, Lady! You call him Dr. Jones! …and keep your hands off his banana!”

      I’m probably not remembering that movie line accurately.

      I also seem to recall John Wayne once saying, “You’d walk like this, too, if you had true grit in your pants.” I just can’t recall in which film he said it.

      Also, Timex watches are a lot like tramp…oops, I mean STAMP collections…they can take a licking!

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  52. E*:
    JC1117 – “Make a reservation”,…yeah that was funny,…kind of. If you want to read a good book that covers both sides of that story,…I recommend, “The Last Stand: Custer, Sitting Bull, and the Battle of the Little Bighorn”, by Nathanial Philbrick. He used references by John Stands in Timber, who was the Cheyenne Memory Keeper, who wrote “Cheyenne Memories”, with Margot Liberty. I read both of those books this past Fall.

    Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll go get a copy. Thank you.

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  53. E*:
    Chris – Thanks for that video clip for “Noah”,…I saw the trailer during previews recently at the theater. I thought this Wikipedia link might be helpful,…to add to the information you posted,…in which I noted that Enoch was the great-granfather of Noah:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

    And I did post a great quote about Enoch,…and how he was able to “Listen good”,… regarding the four Archangels,… including Phanuel,…but I can’t go find it right now on Mike’s blog.

    the interesting thing about Methuselah, Genesis gives his age and i think says he was the longest living man on earth. if you do the math from the numbers provided, it works out that the exact number of years Methuselah lived ends on the year the flood began

    it doesnt say anything directly in Genesis about Methuselah dying the year of the flood, but it can be concluded that he either died just before the flood, or died in the flood.

    my personal feeling would be that, since Methuselah was a godly man, he didn’t die in the flood, and it may be that God was waiting for him to pass on from old age, and when that happened, the flood then could be unleashed.

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    • Chris – Well,…I sure hope Forrest emulates the example of Methuselah,..then,…and that God waits a really long time for HIM to pass on,…from old age,…before he sends the next flood,…to be unleashed,…at my spot! 🙂

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    • Nice serve, Chris.

      I never understood the term “love” in tennis. I had to consult Wikipedia…again.

      The origin of the use of “love” for zero is also disputed. It is possible that it derives from the French expression for “the egg” (l’œuf) because an egg looks like the number zero.[6][7] This is similar to the origin of the term “duck” in cricket, supposedly from “duck’s egg”, referring to a batsman who has been called out without completing a run. One possibility comes from the Dutch expression iets voor lof doen, which means to do something for praise, implying no monetary stakes.[8] Another theory on the origins of the use of “love” comes from the acceptance that, at the start of any match, when scores are at zero, players still have “love for each other”.[9]

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      • JC1117 and Chris – Or the term “Goose Egg”,…which is used in baseball. I liked that “Cipher” was another meaning for zero,…in this Wikipedia link:

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_the_number_0_in_English

        So,…does playing, Duck-Duck-Goose, mean playing, Triple Nought?

        And I liked how the Egyptians wrote the ‘0’,…in hieroglyphs:

        “nfr : heart with trachea,…beautiful, pleasant, good” hiero_F35.png
        (that graphic may not paste,…but you can see it on the Wikipedia page)

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      • From gladiators fighting in the past to children playing in the present. If that structure could talk I’m sure it would prefer to be associated with the children. Imagine the stories those old stones could tell.

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          • vgboss – I remembered a reference to pigeons in one of my historical fiction books about Egypt,…so I found this interesting link:

            www.mediahistory.umn.edu/archive/pigeonpost.html

            And here is one with more on the French carrier pigeons:

            online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324439804578104933926157320?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424127887324439804578104933926157320.html

            And if you really like pigeons,…I recommend a trip to St. Mark’s Square in Venice. 🙂

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          • That is very cool, VG. Animals are so much more “in-tune” to the natural environment than humans. Pigeons and doves are essentially the same bird represented by about 310 species. Pigeons are commonly referred to as Rock Doves.
            I went to a symposium last year where Orin Gutfeld of the Israel Antiquities Authority was speaking about excavating a site called Horbat Bet Loya. The largest ancient columbarium in Israel is found there. A columbarium is the same as a dovecote.

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dovecote

            Doves would nest in pairs in the little niches where they would lay eggs and raise young. Undoubtedly the doves were used as sacrificial offerings at the Temple. Also found at the site are many olive presses.
            They believe the area was the home of long-haired Samson. “Samson’s Well” is located there and is believed to be the well given to Samson when he was dying from thirst.
            It’s a fascinating location which is only open to tourists and archaeology at certain times because the Israeli military often uses the surrounding area for military exercises and target practice.

            www.hadashot-esi.org.il/Report_Detail_Eng.aspx?id=1065&mag_id=115

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          • JC1117 – Thank you for that link,…with the great information about Dovecotes. I guess we have Julius Caesar to thank for something else,… bringing those structures to France,…so the French could have those carrier pigeons, …to use in WWI:

            Columbaria in Ancient Rome

            The presence of dovecotes is not noted in France before the Roman invasion of Gaul by Caesar. The pigeon farm was then a passion in Rome: the Roman, generally round, columbarium had its interior covered with a white coating of marble powder. Varro, Columella and Pliny the Elder wrote works on pigeon farms and dovecote construction. In the city of Rome in the time of the Republic and the Empire the internal design of the banks of pigeonholes was adapted for the purpose of disposing of cremated ashes after death: these columbaria were generally constructed underground.

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          • E*: the banks of pigeonholes was adapted for the purpose of disposing of cremated ashes after death: these columbaria were generally constructed underground.

            Are you referring to this, E* ?

            astree:
            .
            I like the newt before the frogs (mentioned earlier), for several reasons, one being:
            translate.google.com/#la/en/nini

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          • Astree – Another interesting Latin GT translation:

            nini > cre matorium > the award has grown

            I guess I just wanted another excuse to bring up that ‘nini’ or ‘ni ni’,…can be, “Ni!” “Ni!”,…which is what the Knights Who Say Ni will say,…’unless’ you bring them a shrubbery!

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        • vgboss – On that Caesari-labeled building,…and ordering a Coors Light,…at the stadium:

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_Carrée
          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_of_Nîmes
          www.northumberlandbrewery.co.uk/ale%20history.htm

          So,…Vespasian won that “Year of the Four Emperors” battle,…in 69AD,…and so,…he must have built that Nimes Amphitheater,…but Agrippa,…as a general under Augustus Caesar,… built that Maison Carrée building,…in 16BC.

          And Ale was the popular drink of Caesar’s army (and maybe Agrippa’s, too) apparently,… even though the Roman aristocracy like to drink wine (ie. at that amphitheater). The Egyptians liked to drink it, too (See: the History of Beer),…so I wonder what Julius Caesar and Cleopatra drank together? I am still preferring the Cassanova Rosso Di Montalcino,…at THE restaurant,…so could I please have a glass of that, Bartender?

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          • vgboss – And as you probably know,…the biggest and the best arena, the Roman Coliseum, …was begun by Vespasian,…and later completed by Titus (Also See: the movie, “Gladiator”). But Agrippa did complete the Roman Pantheon (with that Oculus at the top,…symbolic of the “all-seeing eye of Heaven”),…in 27AD (Also See: the movie, “Angels and Demons”).

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    • theres a new movie coming out that has a lot of actors i really like, called Noah

      Jennifer Connelly, Emma Watson, Nick Nolte, Frank Langella, Russell Crowe (as Noah) and Anthony Hopkins (as Methuselah)

      in the trailer i think theres a scene they are showing angels coming down to earth. i wonder if that means they are going to include the element of the Nephilim, the offspring of fallen angels who left their dimension for ours to mate with human women. its a controversial aspect of the biblical Noah story that is only referred to in like 1 or 2 verses in Genesis, but is described in more detail in Enoch, a book that wasnt canonized i think because they only have mostly ethiopian translations of the original manuscript

      that would make the movie more interesting. looks like it might be good. ive heard complaints that some say they have changed too much from the biblical text. im gunna see it either way. i dont mind embellishment or dramatization if they dont change the foundational core of the story. the trailer gives the impression that they stayed true to a lot of the main aspects. we’ll see

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qmj5mhDwJQ

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      • I was interested in the ark they built for the movie. Awesome accomplishment. Would love to see it in person.
        They plan a theme park around it.lol

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      • Chris – Thanks for that video clip for “Noah”,…I saw the trailer during previews recently at the theater. I thought this Wikipedia link might be helpful,…to add to the information you posted,…in which I noted that Enoch was the great-granfather of Noah:

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

        And I did post a great quote about Enoch,…and how he was able to “Listen good”,… regarding the four Archangels,… including Phanuel,…but I can’t go find it right now on Mike’s blog.

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      • Chris – And here is another link for the Nephilim:

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

        Since Nick Cage played Seth in the movie, “City of Angels”,…and he falls to Earth to be with a human woman, Maggie (Meg Ryan),…maybe this is also that story’s theme?

        And I am trying to investigate a very important theory,…about a possible connection to, “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”,…and the Knights Who Say “Ni”:

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQfGd3G6dg
        www.intriguing.com/mp/_scripts/ni.php

        So,…I get to say “Ni!”,…again,…now don’t I? ?

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        • Chris – Still no luck on finding the Nephilim angel connection,…but I did find this link on the Wikipedia “Knights Who Say Ni” page:

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N?þ

          And another interesting Latin GT translation:

          Ne phi lim > Ne philosophia consistere nequit > Philosophy can not stand

          And now I certainly know the REAL power,…especially against the Knights Who Say Ni,…of the word, “IT!” I wonder if that is the word that is “Key”????

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  54. E*:
    IWGOLF – I appreciated your vote of confidence in me to solve the fourth wall,…to my “heart’s desire”. Here is my solution:

    PEACE ON EARTH

    www.metrolyrics.com/one-tin-soldier-lyrics-joan-baez.html

    May we all have the Grace to participate in “The Chase”,…with all of the Wisdom,…of our Hearts! ???????????????????????

    E*

    Beautifully said – Thank You !

    If only each individual and every nation understood the meaning of “Peace on Earth” – What a Wonderful World it would be!

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          • inthechaseto – Uh,…I just realized that probably wasn’t the movie scene,…but it might be enjoyable to watch! Here is the right one (I think):

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-c79oDoHHg

            I’ll have to go to that place with the headphones,…that actually loads these videos,…to watch it later.

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          • Thats my favorite version of that song. Its too bad Izzy didnt get the help he needed, he was a kind gentle soul.

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          • inthechaseto – It appears that I had it right the first time,…and so did you,…thank you! I did enjoy the movie vignettes,…and the instrumental music,…in the second one, though. And that final scene was a pretty nice illustration of the “eternal return” concept,…wasn’t it? I still LOVE that movie! :’-)

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          • azuredeb – Were you referring to the drug addiction of Izzy Stradlin of Guns and Roses? I know Louis Armstrong had a Marijuana addiction.

            I was reminiscing over dinner last night with Burke and Guy,…at THE restaurant,…last night,…about all of our favorite rock bands and concerts. Burke said he could be the lead singer,…if we formed one of our own (he said he has a great voice AND great stage presence!). He also said I should watch an older movie, called “Sympathy for the Devil”,…which is partially about the Rolling Stones’ recording of that song. If anyone else is interested,…here is the link:

            www.imdb.com/title/tt0063665/

            Maybe Burke can join me in The Lounge,…on top of the bar,…to sing, “You’ve Lost that Lovin’ Feelin’ “, then? I don’t think they’ll mind if we practice,…on top of the bar,…at THE restaurant. 🙂

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    • I second that. Well, maybe I’ll have to fourth it…after E* and IWGOLF and inthechaseto.

      “Where 2 or 3 are gathered in Forrest’s name…” there is a fourth.

      Or as Episcopalians say, “Where 3 or 4 are gathered in my name…there is a fifth.” 🙂 (No offense, Episcopalians. An Episcopalian told me that as he laughed. I did, too.)

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  55. JC1117 – Yes, Grasshopper,…I “see it”:

    Of all things, to live in darkness must be the worst.’ -Young Caine
    ‘Fear is the only darkness.’ -Master Po
    ‘Never assume that because a man has no eyes, he cannot see.’ -Master Po
    ‘Close your eyes. What do you hear?’ -Master Po
    ‘I hear the water. I hear the birds.’ -Young Caine
    ‘Do you hear your own heartbeat?’ -Master Po
    ‘No.’ -Young Caine
    ‘Do you hear the grasshopper which at your feet?’ -Master Po
    ‘Old Man, how is it that you hear these things?’ -Young Caine
    ‘Young Man, how is it that you do not?’ -Master Po

    Wise,…no? ??

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      • JC1117 – I loved that Alan Parsons Project “Old and Wise” song,…and the lyrics,…thank you! I did note the “Eye in the Sky” on the album cover,…which reminded me of the movie, “We Were Soldiers”,…and that Vietnam term,…which is contained in this review of that movie (by Roger Ebert,…he makes comparisons to Custer’s Last Stand):

        www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/638298/posts

        And I thought this link for the Egyptian all-seeing eye graphic might be helpful:

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence

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          • vgboss – Didn’t I see one of those cameras,… featured in that video,…on a tree,…in Dal’s pictures of the trip he took with the BBC film crew?

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          • vgboss: “I can’t find my mobile phone”

            John: “Cerca Trova!!”

            My hubby can never find the clicker – geeez

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          • inthechaseto – A Latin GT progression:

            Cerca Trova > certus trovis > definitely call Trovis > definitely call, have been found

            I am sure I will know just where MY mobile phone is,…when I send that text,…with the photo of TC,…FINALLY being found! 🙂

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          • JC1117 – “Make a reservation”,…yeah that was funny,…kind of. If you want to read a good book that covers both sides of that story,…I recommend, “The Last Stand: Custer, Sitting Bull, and the Battle of the Little Bighorn”, by Nathanial Philbrick. He used references by John Stands in Timber, who was the Cheyenne Memory Keeper, who wrote “Cheyenne Memories”, with Margot Liberty. I read both of those books this past Fall.

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      • JC1117 – It was great to watch that “Kung Fu” video,… because I used to watch that show on TV,…thank you yet again. The quote you chose was profound (my light is certainly no longer under a bushel!),…but I also liked the Yin/Yang references,…so I offer this:

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yin_and_Yang.svg
        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HinduSwastika.svg
        (the Swastika is a Hindu equivalent)

        www.shaolin.org.cn/templates/EN_T_new_list/index.aspx?nodeid=374
        (The Shaolin Temple and Kung Fu)

        Thank you, Grasshopper. ?

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        • JC1117 – Here is that Yin/Yang video reference:

          “It is written in the Tao Te Ching:

          ‘Under heaven all can see beauty as beauty only because there is ugliness.
          All can know good as good only because there is evil.
          Therefore having and not having arise together.
          Difficult and easy complement each other.
          [Long and short contrast each other;]
          High and low rest upon each other;
          [Voice and sound harmonize each other;]
          Front and back follow one another.'”
          – Master Po quoting TAO

          For you,…Grasshopper. ?

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        • vgboss – From “The Karate Kid”:

          1. Miyagi: “Wax on. Wax off.”

          2. Miyagi: “Now use head for something other than target.”

          3. Daniel: “How did you do that? How did you do that?” Miyagi: “Don’t know. First time.”

          4. Miyagi: “Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later get squish just like grape. Here, karate, same thing. Either you karate do ‘yes’ or karate do ‘no.’ You karate do ‘guess so.’ ”

          5. Miyagi: “We make sacred pact. I promise teach karate to you, you promise learn. I say. You do. No questions.”

          6. Miyagi: “In Okinawa, all Miyagi know two things: fish and karate.”

          7. Miyagi: “Man who catch fly with chopstick accomplish anything.” Daniel: “Ever catch one?” Miyagi: “Not yet.”

          8. Daniel: “Hey, what kind of belt do you have?” Miyagi: “Canvas. JCPenney $3.98. You like?”

          9. Miyagi: “Banzai!”

          10. Daniel: “When am I gonna learn how to punch?” Miyagi: “Learn how to punch, after you learn how keep dry!”

          11. Daniel: “You said you were going to make things better for me.” Miyagi: “But I did.” Daniel: How? Miyagi: “How? Just saved you two months beating.”

          12. Daniel: “Hey, where did these old cars come from?” Miyagi: “Detroit.”

          13. Miyagi: “Danielson!”

          14. Daniel: “Don’t you know anything you can tell me?” Miyagi: “Hai. No get hit.”

          15. Miyagi: “No such thing as bad student, only bad teacher.”

          16. Miyagi: “Better learn balance. Balance is key. Balance good, karate good. Everything good. Balance bad, better pack up go home. Understand?”

          17. Miyagi: “Lesson not just karate only. Lesson for whole life. Whole life have a balance. Everything be better. Understand?”

          18. Miyagi: “Look eye! Always look eye!”

          19. Miyagi: “Just remember, license never replace eye, ear, and brain.”

          20. John Kreese: “What’s the matter? The boy can’t take care of his own problems?” Miyagi: “One-to-one problem, yes. Five-to-one problem, too much ask anyone.”

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          • As I said; I’m at the wax on wax off stuff.

            Hey E*…the last one, 20, is how I feel while on this Thrill of the Chase with vgboss against Forrest Fenn and his sidekicks. I suppose that is why Forrest titled it so…Thrill of the Chase, and rightfully so. Good thing the Phantom is protecting me while teaching me. Hopefully with my continued hard work I will achieve JC Penny belt status soon.

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1DmdgOdHgw

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          • vgboss – I intend to find and retrieve ALL the skulls,…where *ever* they are hidden,… before you and the Phantom do! And a suggestion from the Shaolin Masters,…from their 72 Shaolin Secret Arts,…on your #20 strategy and training:

            “Teachers said: “Shaolin exercises develop forces of the whole human organism, all joints and bones; you are capable of striking with all parts of your body.” There is one more saying: “The fist is the source of all arts and the leg is the base, the root of the fist.” Ordinary practice of pugilism consists of seventy percent of leg training and thirty percent of fist training. If you acquire pugilism, you can use eighteen types of weapon. If you resort to all ruses of pugilism, you can fight against ten thousand fighters.”

            And then you can rightfully buy this t-shirt:

            www.ebay.com/itm/Ninja-Crossbones-T-shirt-ninja-warrior-marial-arts-kung-fu-sai-skull-tee-shirt-/171256444021

            And could that J.C. Penny belt,…eventually be,…the HOB???? 🙂

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        • vgboss – Here is the complete quote,…for that excerpt you posted,…from “The Hoots” episode,…of Kung Fu:

          “Let tears come when your heart tells you of its sadness. Let joy come unasked, unplanned.” – Master Po

          There was probably a lot of Sage Wisdom,…in that Wise episode. 🙂

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          • JC1117 – I hope to someday become the outdoor Ninja,…that I have yet to become,…and to proudly wear the t-shirt also! 🙂

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  56. E*: inthechaseto – I think I know where the ‘W’ in IWGOLF comes from,…can you say,…’Esh’?:
    “The shape and alphabetic position of Sigma is derived from Phoenician shin = W”

    I have reason to believe that the CEASE is also meant to represent “E CASE”, which is a cardinal direction. This derived in the puzzle work, and independent from the following:

    sharkysoft.com/vigenere/

    input: E C ASE
    key: KEY
    decode

    astree

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      • astree:
        .
        … THAT AURORA video you posted – just last week – seems like forever ago, now.

        AURORA vido

        If we listen good, do you think we could hear that AU ROAR ?

        www.ttotc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/ToC_12Mar14_2300et_Aurora1.jpg

        As to emphasize, a day later, the Wikipedia connects it to an Antarctic expedition … still too cold.

        From today’s featured article

        Matters worsened when the Ross Sea party’s ship, SY Aurora, was swept from its moorings during a gale, taking away much of the party’s supplies and equipment.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

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        • Astree –

          Au rora vido – But drops of Guido (I have no idea about that translation,…do you?)

          And on the SY Aurora in Antartica Wikipedia posting yesterday (March 14): Aeneas Macintosh fell through the thin ice,…and was lost (because of bad instructions,…but AFTER completing his mission),…and then the moorings,…that were established for the SY Aurora,…anchored right where the Scott Antarctic party also had been,…were destroyed by a gale after that day. March 14th was a really bad day.

          But today,…March 15th,…could be considered worse,…for some,…like Julius Caesar,…because it was “The Ides of March”,…in 44BC,…which was when he was betrayed and murdered,…by Brutus and members of the Senate (but he did not really say, “Et tu, Brute?”). But March 14th was also important to that event:

          March 14, 44 BC – Casca and Cassius decide, on the night before the Assassination of Julius Caesar, that Mark Antony should stay alive.

          Which was a good thing,…because after his oration,…before the people of Rome,…to memorialize Julius Caesar,…when he publicly shamed the Conspirators,…and riled the crowd,…vengeance was his! Or,…actually,…vengeance belonged to the rioting crowd.

          But March 15th was a good day,…for a ‘lotta Italian gumbas,…because:

          March 15, 1972 – The Godfather, a gangster film based on the novel of the same name by Mario Puzo and directed by Francis Ford Coppola, was released.

          I am sure Tony Soprano made a point to celebrate March 15th (and to use THAT day to seek vengeance on anyone who betrayed him!). Just like the Godfather, played by Marlon Brando, did:

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmX2VzsB25s

          ?? And that, Forrest,…would be what a “Double Omega” means,…to an Italian FYI. 😉

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    • Astree – Wow,…on your E CASE comment,…and the one I just posted about wanting an A ?,…from Forrest,…and then what I found out about the Compass Rose:

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brosen_windrose.svg

      – The eight half-winds are the points obtained by bisecting the angles between the principal winds. The half-winds are North-northeast (NNE), East-northeast (ENE), East-southeast (ESE), South-southeast (SSE), South-southwest (SSW), West-southwest (WSW), West-northwest (WNW) and North-northwest (NNW). Notice that the name is constructed simply by combining the names of the principal winds to either side, with the cardinal wind coming first, the ordinal wind second. The eight principal winds and the eight half-winds together yield a 16-wind compass rose, with each compass point at a 221?2° angle from the next.

      I LOVE that in the 16-wind compass rose,…each point is a 221?2° from the next (my favourite number again!).

      E ?

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    • Astree – Latin GT progression:

      CEASE > partibus > shares

      Car din al > lectus omni eius tumultus > list all the uproar

      Does that refer to the ‘CEASE’ = ‘E CASE’ you described????

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  57. Astree and Mike – Starting over,…please delete my previous three lounge video posts, Mike (keep only this one):

    The Eagles – Desperado
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCdjvTTnzDU

    The Eagles – Hotel California
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2cpUOdPDbw

    Scorpions – Wind of Change
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ&feature=kp

    Led Zeppelin – Stairway to Heaven
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q7Vr3yQYWQ

    Pink Floyd – Another Brick in the Wall
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U

    Remember to,…”Tear down the wall!” 🙂

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  58. Unfortunately the fourth section stymied the NSA code breakers, as it has continued to do other cryptanalysts for 23 years. The documents noted that “although ideas abound” for deciphering it, the final 97 characters of the sculpture “continue to elude solution.”

    OBKR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
    TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR

    They speculated that this section might employ a combination of the techniques used in other sections. “First the message is encrypted using some set of alphabets,” they write, “as was done in the first and third breakthroughs, and then the cipher is put through a transposition, such as that used in the second breakthrough.” But even with that they were never able to solve it.”

    Next wall……

    I still think Kryptos Part 4 has something to do with BASEBALL. Time will tell.

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    • JC1117 and Astree – Oh! Baseball! Like hitting a homerun,…over the wall (which was built with that crane, I’m sure),…which is another good way to “Get Over It”,…which is a great song, by The Eagles,…from their “Hell Freezes Over” album,…which is when they said they would get back together (but then they did,…13-14 years later,…after they broke up):

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg

      Sometimes I wish I could go “Back to the Future”,…in a souped-up DeLorean,…with winged-doors,…to re-do that first meeting,…with my ex-boyfriend,…and like on that T-shirt, …about “What Does the Fox Say?”,…I would just say, “No.”,…or “No!”,…or “Nooooo!”,…or “No, that means No!”. But sometimes “No” doesn’t always mean “No”,…right? 😉

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        • Astree – Was that a figurative pictorial representation of you,… sliding into home base,…and being called, “SAFE!”,…by the referee???

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          • E*:
            Astree – Was that a figurative pictorial representation of you,… sliding into home base,…and being called, “SAFE!”,…by the referee???

            If it was, no body told me 🙂

            I am also thinking “safe” as in SAnta FE, and the trove.

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      • Speaking of The Eagles, it takes a higher perspective – like the vantage point of an eagle soaring – to realize the priceless value of love in life. It’s love that allows a person to be content with what and who they “have”. It’s love that inspires us to live and let live. It’s love that gives life even if love is the reason why One dies.
        The human race, as a whole, places far too much emphasis on living well…than LOVING WELL. The truth is, if we ALL loved well we could ALL live well.
        This song is a bit sappy, but I’ll get over it. I think it applies to people, in general.
        www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6tfTJ4I31g

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      • Astree – OK,…I’m on a roll,…and I really like listening to these videos,… in the lounge,…while I read the blog:

        The Eagles – Desperado
        www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCdjvTTnzDU

        The Eagles – Hotel California
        www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2cpUOdPDbw

        Scorpions – Winds of Change
        www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ&list=RD7tJ0I2J954A

        Led Zeppelin – Stairway to Heaven
        www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U&list=RD7tJ0I2J954A

        Pink Floyd – Another Brick in the Wall
        www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q7Vr3yQYWQ&list=RD7tJ0I2J954A

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        • .
          E* –

          Trying to catch up on posts, the groups you posted had some great (timeless) songs.

          “Tear Down the Wall” – re: the Chase, I will be careful not to, shouldn’t be necessary. However, in life, it appears there may be a “breaking the fourth wall” experience out there; maybe that’s worth chasing.

          I have not been able to get to the posts in “Too FAT to Walk” – the links just take me to a page with Mike’s intro (and a picture of Mike posing as a Greek god, if I’m not mistaken, or a czar). How do you get there? ( the page I get to has various comment numbers, but no comment ).

          ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

          news.yahoo.com/record-setting-33-tiny-cubesats-launched-space-station-113653774.html

          One of them better not weigh 42 lb. 🙂

          astree

          (By the way, I picked up a few “Age of Wisdom” shirts at Costco last night).

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          • Astree – On your “breaking the fourth wall” comment,…and your “Age of Wisdom” shirts purchase,…I am now thinking about enlightenment:

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Wisdom

            The Mongols sort of destroyed all that Wisdom,…in the Battle of Bagdad,…in 1258. I do so love a good library!

            sourcesofinsight.com/the-age-of-wisdom/

            In the book, The 8th Habit: From Effectiveness to Greatness, Stephen Covey gives his take on the road ahead:

            “I suggest it will be wisdom. Unless you have have principles at the center of a person’s heart and soul and in the relationships and culture of an organization, you cannot build high trust. And without high trust you cannot have empowerment. When rules take the place of human judgment, you can’t nurture a climate of innovation and creativity; instead you will nurture a kiss-up culture. Without high trust and aligned structures and systems based on an abundance paradigm, you cannot get TQM or quality. Of necessity, the Age of Wisdom, in my opinion, will follow the Age of Information, where the essence of leadership will be to be a servant leader.”

            And I loved reading about the launch of the 33Cubesats,…which are the size of a loaf of bread,…and will be used to study the Ecology of the Earth,…in ways that no one has ever done before. Now THAT is a good way to use technology! My Higher Self,…Elyse,…who reclines on an illuminated cloud in space,…overlooking the Earth,…always watching,…will appreciate this assistance! 🙂

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            E*: The Mongols sort of destroyed all that Wisdom,…in the Battle of Bagdad,…in 1258. I do so love a good library!

            sourcesofinsight.com/the-age-of-wisdom/

            In the book, The 8th Habit: From Effectiveness to Greatness, Stephen Covey gives his take on the road ahead:

            Thanks for the links, and refresher on Covey. So many ways to approach the subject.

            If you’ve been WISE
            1 2 3 4

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hemer-Landesgartenschau-Segway-Polo.JPG

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          • One of my favorite Python quotes: “There’s nothing an agnostic can’t do if he doesn’t know whether he believes in anything or not”.

            It’s funny on the surface…for reals, it is…humans are capable of so much on their own. However, for a bunch of people “sitting on the fence” (agnostics) I disagree with their conclusion that certain things are “unknowable”.

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          • Astree – And if we are talking about, “Tear down the wall”,…in relation to The Wall,…in the Himalayas,…and either one of us is a downhill skier,…then “Tear down the wall”,…would apply,…especially if we are both doing a “Chinese Downhill”,…and racing down that face. People actually ski down faces in the Himalayas,…no really,…they do! 🙂

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          • Astree – You said:

            “I have not been able to get to the posts in “Too FAT to Walk” – the links just take me to a page with Mike’s intro (and a picture of Mike posing as a Greek god, if I’m not mistaken, or a czar). How do you get there? ( the page I get to has various comment numbers, but no comment ).”

            I forgot to mention that quote made me think of The Rotunda in Rome (which also has an “all-seeing eye of Heaven” Oculus, btw),…and of Czar Nicholas II (because I thought of Santa Claus being rotund,…like Mike looked to be,…in that picture).

            But The Rotunda was not named for a fat Greek or Roman god,…in fact there is no record of it being named for any god,…but that it was dedicated to the goddess Fortuna instead,…as mentioned in the following two links about her (Fortuna means ‘going round’,…like a “wheel”,…not ‘fat’). I have also included a link on Nicholas II,…and the assassination of him and his family (when he was betrayed by members of the Revolution):

            audiolatinproverbs.blogspot.com/2007/02/fortuna-est-rotunda.html
            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_II_of_Russia

            And this on the goddess Fortuna:

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortuna

            Fortuna (Latin: Fort?na, equivalent to the Greek goddess Tyche) was the goddess of fortune and personification of luck in Roman religion. She might bring good luck or bad: she could be represented as veiled and blind, as in modern depictions of Justice, and came to represent life’s capriciousness. She was also a goddess of fate: as Atrox Fortuna, she claimed the young lives of the princeps Augustus’ grandsons Gaius and Lucius, prospective heirs to the Empire.[1]

            And this,…on the “Wheel of Fortune”,…from the audiolatinprovers.blogspot.com link above,…which is the English translation of an excerpt from a medieval poem, called Carmina Burana (originally in Latin):

            The wheel of Fortune turns; I go down, diminished; another is raised on high; raised up far too high, the king sits at the top: let him beware of ruin! for at the bottom axis of the wheel we read “Queen Hecuba”

            Queen Hecuba of Troy is that great emblem of the reversal of fortune, watching the utter destruction of her royal family and the devastation of her city at the end of the Trojan War.

            So,…Buona Fortuna,…everyone,….on “The Chase”!

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          • It really makes a wise person question a young lion’s desire when he says, “I just can’t wait to be KING!”

            Are you sure about that?

            The famous cathedral in St. Petersburg where Nicholas II was assassinated is called Cathedral on the Blood…in reference to Christ and the fact that Nicholas (jolly old?) was killed there. I was fortunate to walk around St. Petersburg alone late at night during White Nights many years ago.

            And to think all those blood-thirsty revolutionaries thought they were going to change everything for the better. It turns out neither system of government was very good for ALL.

            “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.” – Lord Acton

            www.pulpolocal.com/most-popular-touristic-places-in-st-petersburg/

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          • However, even though bad guys abound
            There are still good guys to be found.
            Imagine a time in the future when
            The world will be filled with men
            Of the same caliber as Forrest Fenn.

            Congratulations on the True Westerner Award, Forrest.

            Peace!

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          • JC1117 – Actually,…Yekaterinberg is where Czar Nicholas II and his family were shot:

            In the early hours of the morning of July 17, 1918, deposed Tsar Nicholas II, his wife Alexandra, and their children Grand Duchesses Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia, and Tsarevich Alexei were murdered by the Bolsheviks at the Ipatiev House in this city. Other members of the Romanov family were killed at Alapayevsk later the same day. On July 16, 1918 the Czechoslovak legions were closing on Yekaterinburg. The Bolsheviks executed the deposed imperial family, believing that the Czechoslovaks were on a mission to rescue them. Legions came less than a week after and captured the city.

            But Alexander II, Nicholas II’s grandfather, was shot in 1881,…at the site where the Church of the Savior on Blood was later built in 1883:

            On 1 March 1881,[16] following the assassination of his grandfather, Tsar Alexander II, Nicholas became Tsesarevich and his father became Tsar Alexander III. Nicholas and other family members witnessed Alexander II’s death because they were staying at the Winter Palace in Saint Petersburg where he was brought after being attacked.

            Thank you for the great link to the pictures of the beautiful Russian buildings,…you are lucky to have visited St. Petersburg. 🙂

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          • Thanks for clearing that up. It’s been a long time since I was there and studied those things. 🙂

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  59. And about John Fogerty and that CCR song origin:

    “Proud Mary” is a song written by American singer and guitarist John Fogerty. It was first recorded by rock band Creedence Clearwater Revival (in which Fogerty played lead guitar and sang lead vocals) on the 1969 album Bayou Country. According to the Proud Mary Songfacts, the phrase “Proud Mary” reminded John Fogerty of a domestic washerwoman, which is what he started writing the song about. When he wrote the music, the first few chords reminded him of a paddle-wheel going around, and he thought of the Mississippi River. Instead of “Proud Mary” being a clean-up lady, “she” became a boat. ”

    I LOVE Creedence! The video presents an interesting dichotomy.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QMdN1y-omg

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    • JC1117 – That CCR “Up Around the Bend” song and lyrics reminded me of this Mel Gibson “We Were Soldiers” movie:

      www.imdb.com/title/tt0277434/

      I liked it when the planes came in to help. 🙂 I did not like when it when the taxi showed up,…with the telegrams,…and Madeleine Stowe’s character had to let all those wives know,…that their husbands had bravely died in battle. That was way too sad for me. 🙁

      I am glad that Forrest made it back from Vietnam. And I am sure CCR’s music resonates with him,…from that time.

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        • Astree – You said, on The Lounge 2:

          “Last night, we were going to see “300: Rise of an Empire”, but it was only in IMax, for $19, which was too steep for me. We went to “Pompeii” instead, thoroughly enjoyed it – theme centered around the Roman conquests, and their presence in Pompeii.”

          Well,…for only 9$,…I did see “300: Rise of an Empire” last night. Thane, at THE restaurant,…saw the first movie,…and said I would see lots of “Gratuitous Abdomens” in this one,…which I did,…and didn’t mind a bit! Here is a great link to understand the battle between Leonidas I, King of Sparta, and and Xerxes I, God King of Persia (which was not really covered in detail in the movie last night):

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonidas_I

          And this is what the Oracle of Delphi had to say about the Battle of Thermopylae:

          “Upon receiving a request from the confederated Greek forces to aid in defending Greece against the Persian invasion, Sparta consulted the Oracle at Delphi. The Oracle is said to have made the following prophecy in hexameter verse:

          For you, inhabitants of wide-wayed Sparta,
          Either your great and glorious city must be wasted by Persian men,
          Or if not that, then the bound of Lacedaemon must mourn a dead king, from Heracles’ line.
          The might of bulls or lions will not restrain him with opposing strength; for he has the might of Zeus.
          I declare that he will not be restrained until he utterly tears apart one of these.”

          Themistokles thinks about that Oracle prophecy a lot,…as he faces the Persian Navy,…led by Artemisia (who was the designated to-be-adopted Persian commander and successor to Darius, Xerxes I’s father,…until he is killed by Themistokles). I thought of the mention of Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War”,…and Leonardo Da Vinci’s military inventions,…as I watched the military tactics and strategies used by both sides (ie. a circle of ships for defense,…and ship wedges to go through the Persian middle for offense). And even the scene on Artemisia’s ship,…which elicited a pretty deep, visceral response in me,…involved what seemed, to me, to be “The Art of War”. 😉

          After you do finally see the movie,…let me know what you think. When “Pompeii” arrives here,…I will make sure to go see it,…on your recommendation.

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        • 🙂 Astree,

          the OPENING for the video, April 11 DRAFT DAY movie – seems like it is right up VGBOSS alley… 🙂 cleveland Browns Kevin Costner :),

          Big HAIR was the thing back in 79 or was it 80 ?! & ^ 🙂

          Speed limits back SEP 22, 1985, don’t apply today LOL. 🙂

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE4LsFgPw2c

          A AU79 day 4 sum, Pro’s play in Pairings on Sunday tournaments. 🙂
          Cool sand isn’t quite the Lost wax process or cold RLB, but sunshine does crossxing those warm waters. 🙂

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq1roSoMS84

          🙂 Match, Strike, Spark, Blaze, Fire, Light
          🙂 The Golf Chess & Cheese Society

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          • IWGOLF – I know you were responding to Astree, …but I hope you don’t mind if I “butt in” for a brief moment (since Astree and I have discussed some of what I am going to mention).

            On Big Hair, and Louis XIII ^:

            “In the sphere of the men’s fashion, Louis contributed to the introduction of the wearing of wigs among men in 1624 that became fashionable for the first time since the days of the ancient Egyptians. This would be a dominant style among men in European and European-influenced countries for nearly two hundred years until the fashion changes brought about by the French Revolution.”

            And his son, Louis XIV (the “Sun King”, See: “the blaze”?),…saw a really big comet in 1680 (re: your comment about Big Hair in ’79 or ’80,…and So,…they were called Merovingian Kings,…aka. “long-haired kings”):

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Comet_of_1680

            And in the lyrics to one of your videos, “I Can’t Drive 55”, by Sammy Hagar,…there was a mention of “wanted dead or alive”,…so I wish to submit these two song lyrics with that renegade/outlaw theme:

            www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bonjovi/wanteddeadoralive.html
            www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/styx/renegade.html

            And I had mentioned that “Proud Mary” CCR song before,…discerning that it might relate to the Queen Mary,…who was the sister of a famous Queen,…and who burned Heretics. But this time it made me think of Mark Twain,…and that Chilean Esmeralda steam ship,…and the invention of steamboats:

            steamboattimes.com/mark_twain_1.html
            inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blsteamship.htm

            And the first steamboat arrived in the Port of Cleveland in 1818 FYI (since you mentioned that Kevin Costner movie,…I saw that preview last week).

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          • IWGOLF – Why am I thinking about the movie, “Sweet Home Alabama”,…with Reese Witherspoon,…now,…and the song of the same name by Lynyrd Skynyrd?:

            “At a band practice shortly after bassist Ed King had switched to guitar, King heard fellow guitarist Gary Rossington playing a guitar riff that inspired him (in fact, this riff is still heard in the final version of the song and is played during the verses as a counterpoint to the main D-C+9-G chord progression). In interviews, Ed King has said that, during the night following the practice session, the chords and two main guitar solos came to him in a dream, note for note.” (That guitar is now in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, OH)

            And about John Fogerty and that CCR song origin:

            “Proud Mary” is a song written by American singer and guitarist John Fogerty. It was first recorded by rock band Creedence Clearwater Revival (in which Fogerty played lead guitar and sang lead vocals) on the 1969 album Bayou Country. According to the Proud Mary Songfacts, the phrase “Proud Mary” reminded John Fogerty of a domestic washerwoman, which is what he started writing the song about. When he wrote the music, the first few chords reminded him of a paddle-wheel going around, and he thought of the Mississippi River. Instead of “Proud Mary” being a clean-up lady, “she” became a boat. ”

            And about playing golf,…on the Scottish links,…on the coast of Florida:

            www.amazon.com/Emerald-Coast-Ultimate-Florida-Travel/dp/0976123541

            And about Ewan McGregor,…who starred in “Salmon Fishing in the Yemen”,…and played a young Obi-Wan Kenobe in Star Wars,…and played that evil priest in “Angels and Demons” (where there were two keys). This is what he said about golf,…even though he is Scottish:

            “I started watching golf for the first time yesterday. I`m really worried about myself. I was actually enjoying it.”

            I really liked those glass lightning sculptures,…that Josh Lucas’s character made,…in the cold sand,…during lightning storms,…in “Sweet Home Alabama”. Hey,…didn’t Reese’s character’s Dad do Civil War reenactments?

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  60. To Stephanie pink Toes, Bob, Michelle, John, Bur, M Davis and William…..
    Hey Kids…… Yesterday was Good. I knew I was not going there to share Dangerous Intel, and I pretty much figured that you all felt the same way. My goal was to meet and share comradeship with others like me, not everyone gets it…… But you all do…. It was a great meeting….. ” oh yeah…. I will have another Stella”… Teehee
    Yes….. Good Day….

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    • Zelda- I was stopped by police after leaving the Forrest Fenn treasure hunt meetup in Clearwater. The officer asked me where I was going at 2:00 am.

      I said “I’m on my way to a lecture about alcohol abuse and the effects it has on the brain when trying to decipher the Fenn poem and staying out late.”

      The officer aseked, “really? Who’s giving this lecture this time of night?”

      I says “my wife”

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      • 2am? Did you find an after party meetup that I didn’t know about? *jealous*

        I’m so glad I got to meet you guys…so much fun to meet people you “know” from online.

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