Poem 2:4

Put in below the home of Brown.

414 thoughts on “Poem 2:4

  1. a well a byrd byrd byrd
    byrd is the word
    a well a byrd byrd byrd
    byrd is the word

    dont you know ’bout the home of brown?

    byrd byrd byrd
    byrd is the word

    im the only one talkin about the byrd!

    byrd byrd byrd
    byrd is the word.

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  2. at the Draper museum of natural history, above the 10,000 foot level there is the Byrd naturalist cabin. i believe this to be the home of brown. it is brown in color.
    also, in the axeman drawing form the epilogue in TTOTC, the bird in the moon is at home in the nest. the moon represents a high elevation. the nest is the home. these could be a hint to the Byrd naturalist cabin.
    and since the Byrd naturalist cabin is near the entrance to the Draper museum, then this would be the place to put in. there are photos online if you would like to see them.

    i think.

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    • a bird gathers brown twigs to build a nest.
      bird nest
      bird home
      home of brown
      Byrd nest
      Byrd home
      Byrd naturalist cabin
      home of Brown
      brown is now capitalized because the proper name here is Byrd not Brown.

      i think

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  3. bob:
    anna, again the same thing happened to me. have you seen the question marks in the little boxes yet. placed where a photo would be?someone is watching to make sure the bronze box doesnt go into the wrong hands. i think.

    Hi Bob, I have no idea which boxes or question marks you refer to.

    However, there is one thing very clear to me… There is no one safeguarding “who finds” the treasure. That contradicts all that ff has indicated about hiding a treasure for anyone to find who can solve the clues.

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  4. bob:
    anna, again the same thing happened to me. have you seen the question marks in the little boxes yet. placed where a photo would be?someone is watching to make sure the bronze box doesnt go into the wrong hands. i think.

    Huh ? What are you guys talking about? Who do you think is doing it? If this happened to you after going to a certain blog or website, please share so others dont end up the same.

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  5. anna:
    Bob, being hackedis one thing. Description of what you’re wearing to bed and saying to your spouse is scary and weird; and it happened.

    Its unfortunate that your privacy was violated. Several weeks back I was slammed with malware and other methods of attacks. I do get thousands of attacks a month. I currently use 4 engines constantly monitoring my systems. Do I know if I have been attacked or someone has accessed sensitive material on my computers. I really don’t know.
    Do you have your computer protected?

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    • Well, Mike I misinterpreted some of the lines in the Poem. I had to back track a little. I went down the wrong path and when I went back to my vehicle there was a few more answers to the clues. I didn’t notice them when I first went in. Everyday, I have to confirm my findings reviewing my photos and this evening I now know what Forrest meant by “Look at the big picture, there are no short cuts”

      He has given us so many subtle hints. Everyone should bring a good camera when your in the rocky mountains. A picture is worth a thousand words.

      Geydelkon
      An Indian Scout and A Saint

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  6. There may be as many interpretations of Forrest’s poem and his subsequent statements as people reading them. I’m a bit surprised that we limit interpretations narrowly to the physical. One of f’s more revealing comments is that he is very spiritual.

    The poem’s directions are an enigma. The MW post alternately seems more of a spiritual directive – like Forrest is seeking internal peace for his soul in the solitude of nature. IMO, his transparency here holds a message…forget every care and anxious thought stemming from the external world or the voices in your head. Get out of yourself and away from your passions in order to hear the voice of God living within your soul. When the mind is emptied of clutter and worldly noise, the voice of contentment and strength allow one’s spirit to mount up with wings of eagles and soar. We are more than flesh and bones. It’s our spirit that enjoys a sunrise and feels joy.

    If warm waters halt at T or cross, many walk quickly past the ‘rest’ or contentment which can be found in surrendering our external passions to find spiritual peace.

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    • Hello Anna,
      I know myself, that I would very much like be in a special place mentally and physically. I am far from there with dreams of the heart that comforts me at times. Both will leave someday, faster than the other and then nothing but the mark that I have once made. I see Forrest has signed the dotted line of life to ensure that it will all fall into place the way he wants it to be. Yet, it will end the same as mine, yours and everyone, like you said.

      Ah yes, I give you title to the gold….I cant stop thinking why he ended the poem like this. To me it is not a comforting thought to think of. I never thought it would end this way. At times I wish I didn’t use the name for the website titletothegold.com I may move to another domain address.

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      • Geydelkon,
        The adventure inherant in searching fed my soul for a season and gave me a reason to fight back from cancer. Really enjoyed it until failure set sail. Disappointed I didn’t get to meet Forrest, but do believe he understands family comes first. Truly at this point I’m glad to be done. 42 and I worked hard but both became tired of having our privacy breached. When our exact conversations and travel agendas began surfacing on the blogs the fun was used up.

        Glad to have lived the adventure but time for my spirit to find its peace at home with the ones who nurture me.

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        • Anna –

          Thanks for still being with us and for posting your very meaningful thoughts.

          I’ll tell ya – when (I just don’t like that word “if”) I find this treasure – I have you and 42 on my list – for fun – and you will be meeting Forrest.

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          • Bob, being hacked is one thing. Description of what you’re wearing to bed and saying to your spouse is scary and weird; and it happened.

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          • anna, again the same thing happened to me. have you seen the question marks in the little boxes yet. placed where a photo would be? someone is watching to make sure the bronze box doesnt go into the wrong hands. i think.

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      • Gey –

        Don’t change that title – I like it !!

        We have all had our doubts at one time or another – but mine only lasted for about one minute. Of course there is a treasure. Are you in the camp – that there is just a “title” like our friend, Bob? FF – said it will be there waiting…..

        —– Indulgence is getting Impatient.

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        • I have resolved the last line to the poem and there is a picture of what it means on the internet. I just cant fathom why he ended the poem the way he did and wants me to see it in person. I hope I am dead wrong.

          Everyone remembers back in January, I launched my little website. Then I sent him via UPS overnight a letter explaining the clues in February. Well, I had half of the solve correct at that time. Now I feel confident I have it all solved.
          Noticed how quiet he has been since the beginning of the year. In two of his scrapbooks on Dals site he has hinted where it is hidden. To me anyway.

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        • Into- I have told FF that I dont want Indulgence. and I mean that.

          In the epilogue chapter of TTOTC, we read about his fathers funeral in great detail. I’m guessing the same is planned for FF himself. where will you sit?

          If FF were to walk to where the bronze box is hidden to lie down next to it forever, where will the epitaph be written he carefully thought out? scratched on a rock? carved in a tree? I dont think so. I think a traditional funeral is already planned. and at that time title to the gold will be granted. I think.

          he hopes the treasure isnt found for a thousand years. because he would like to live that long.

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          • Well, Bob –

            If you don’t want Indulgence – then give it to me… cuz I want it and will do good things with it. 🙂

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      • geydelkon- i see you have a photo of the halting ball on your title to the gold website! thats great because i didnt take a photo of it when i was there. thanks.

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  7. Ah yes, “Put in below the home of Brown”

    Without giving away too much, allow me to explain in my words that I know.
    Brown is used in this stanza by itself. It not associated with any structure, mountain, animal, fish, stream or creek. It is in the Rocky Mountains above 5000 feet and within stones throw. It took me more than a year to figure this one out. When I showed a family member one of my pictures from my search the word that came out next was a word that I have never learned before. Anyway, there is 3 parts to this line.

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  8. E*:
    49 dollers – It’s 49 dollers the Hexagon! Yippee! Great to see you over here again,…playing with the much missed A-Team,…here at Mike’s. Did you smiley face refer to this of The Wolf’s post?:

    “The number 49 hints Canada’s 49th parallel, the border between the USA.”

    Put in below….

    Hey E* hope all is well, glad to see Mike’s blog up again so and you can share your ideas.
    I had to smile about Wolf’s post but i had to run so i could finish my post so i just left a smiley. It funny how we come up with ideas and logically tie things together as Wolf has done, some of his posts have paralleled my own research, and many more. This blog post of his ( home of brown) is kind of the same to research iv’e done but is shadowed by country. I took Forrest covering up his thumb like Buzz Aldrin did as a sign to look up the Apollo Missions. Apollo Mission X “the f mission” the command module was Charlie Brown and Snoopy was the lunar module. Well this led me to researching Charles Schulz ,Charlie Brown and gang, well i came to find out he(Schulz)who came out of the same cartoon mold as Bill Mauldin lived in Colorado Springs for a spell and while he lived there he drew a picture of Charlie Brown on a wall jumping over a candlestick(lit on just one end) 🙂 the wall was later removed and taken to a museum, but once your born there, its always home . “home on the range” And Charlie Brown never did get to kick that football did he. So that’s how two countries can take one statement and go separate trails

    Hey Wolf your a good writer and i enjoy your stories, your Book was very good also, i see you have even been inducted into the Wikipedia hall of fame 🙂

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    • Thank you 49 for supporting cancer research and I am happy my book met your expectations. I put a tremendous amount of research and work into it! Because of you I was able to come up with some new stuff, which mean you had some pretty good incite yourself in picking your moniker.
      The Wolf

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  9. into:
    42 –

    To clarify – I am both inthechaseto and into – I just shortened it to be easier for people to type.

    We were speaking of different places.This is how I thought it ended.

    42
    on September 24, 2014 at 8:53 pm said:

    Inthechase, I’m not sure we refer to same place. when year to start or name a place I know up at hill. I’ll have to think on clues overnight.
    Need rest.

    Now, we both know we are in very different places.

    I so appreciate all your help 42.

    Into – Are you sure you appreciate my input? I’m hoping it was unintentional, but because of your attention to detail, I have to ask you about your opening remarks in an email to me which said I was “inciteful.” Word definition for incite holds only negative connotations.
    I hope you meant insightfull.

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    • wolf. interesting stuff you been posting lately. for adults only. i keep thinking like a kid and you always lose me. your thinking and reasoning is great but too deep for me. my question here is if Brown who shot down the red baron is the Brown in the poem, and Canada is his home. then how can we go straight to it? it being the chest. as the crow flies? or maybe a flight path that Brown took? not trying to be a wise guy here Wolf as usually i am. im serious. thanks Wolf.

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      • “then how can we go straight to it? it being the chest. as the crow flies? or maybe a flight path that Brown took? not trying to be a wise guy here Wolf as usually i am.”

        Hey Bob, I like your wise guy attitude. You know I was stuck on this for 10 months and you got it in 10 minutes. Looks like I should have been thinking like a kid! ha! Good pick up an I hope to show why that is important later.

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          • Into, I am not sure what you are asking. I do not believe it starts in Canada. I believe the Home of Brown is Canada, but not physically Canada but rather the name Canada.

            You could even consider the Spanish Canada as well. If you look on a good map, I am sure you will find all sorts of Canadas.

            Hope this helps. Did you ever get that book purchase sorted out?

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          • Wolf –

            Ok I get it now … I think. I just thought the home of Brown would be below the starting point.

            No I didn’t get it worked out yet – but I will work on that. No worries……..

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          • into,
            You are correct you have to put into something and that took me a very long time to figure out because I was thinking of a physical home- so you are not alone.

            I will attempt to explain that later but I went into considerable detail about “put in” in the book.

            If you need help getting the book, I can send you one direct. Thank you for supporting Cancer Research! the1wolf1 @ gmail dot com is my email.

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          • Into, I’m confused. Are you also inthechaseto?

            We had a conversation about Big Sky Montana in Sept 2014 on Dal’s nine clues thread..
            42
            on September 24, 2014 at 8:22 pm said:
            inthechaseto – i was just a kid, or maybe were talking about different locations. Not much else but ranches, dude ranches and occasional roadhouse existed before ’47 and I know more about the community existing post ’72. Have to say that community ‘gets it right’ and I would love to live there.

            inthechaseto
            on September 24, 2014 at 8:41 pm said:
            I did live there – 16 years 🙂

            We went on to discuss the A-Z shutes at the top of Lone Mountain ski resort and the Saint Bernard. Perhaps inthechaseto is someone else?

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          • 42 –

            To clarify – I am both inthechaseto and into – I just shortened it to be easier for people to type.

            We were speaking of different places. This is how I thought it ended.

            42
            on September 24, 2014 at 8:53 pm said:

            Inthechase, I’m not sure we refer to same place. when year to start or name a place I know up at hill. I’ll have to think on clues overnight.
            Need rest.

            Now, we both know we are in very different places. 🙂

            I so appreciate all your help 42.

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          • 49 dollers – It’s 49 dollers the Hexagon! Yippee! Great to see you over here again,…playing with the much missed A-Team,…here at Mike’s. Did you smiley face refer to this of The Wolf’s post?:

            “The number 49 hints Canada’s 49th parallel, the border between the USA.”

            Put in below….

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  10. E*:
    lia –I just came up with a BRILLIANT idea! I think we should do one of those “Naked Calendars”,…that organizations use to raise money! We could call it, “The Grizzes of Madison County”,…and use photos like this one (taken very close to the road in West Yellowstone):

    icons.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/w/westerner/93-awesome.jpg

    What do you think??? Or are the Grizzes too shy? Brutus could be on the cover,…since he will be spending a lot of time in those Madison County mountains,…heroically protecting you from his cousins. And the proceeds could go to Doug Seus’s Vital Ground and Casey’s Montana Grizz foundation that he started.

    Great IdEa friend! Ive been gone all day, and this blog moves fast. Trying to play Ketchup – the Heinz variety that Brutus likes on his burgers. btw, I can’t load the messages from 4.1 and some of these threads. Not a complaint, just letting you know I most likely miss some of your posts.

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  11. E*:
    bob – Imagine that the monk in this video is an animated levitating frog,…as you write the script:

    Wow! That was amazing! The power of the mind. I had heard about levitation but had never seen it before. :). Thank you for sharing!

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  12. Everyone – What do you think of this post?:

    dalneitzel.com/2015/04/28/the-nine-clues-22/#comment-86927

    Hank
    on May 5, 2015 at 7:41 am said:
    Maddox asks: “How much of an influence would you say Treasure Island, Huck Finn, or other books/poems have had over your treasure hunt – (both the creation and execution of it)?”

    None at all Maddox.f

    I wondered,…why didn’t Maddox ask Forrest about MOVIES? I think he mentioned wanting to be like Errol Flynn before. 🙂

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    • E*- who is Maddox?
      but what about that Kevin P. ? he sure is full of confidence. i think thats great. dont know where hes goin. dont know what his blaze is, or home o brown. or much of anything else. but hes goin to get it. thats great! i like it when they refer to FF as a genius. guess that makes them a genius too because they figured out what the other genius was thinkin. man, wish i could do that.

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      • and while im talking about Dals group, Mindy says the earth spins counter-clockwise. sure it does, if you accept the fact that the north pole is the top of the world. what if its not? what if the south pole is the top and the people who make globes got it wrong? i could see aliens coming here and turning all the globes upside down and sayin-“it goes THIS way you morons!” might just fix alot of our problems.

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        • bob – That scenario you mentioned can be easily arranged, apparently:

          www.physics.org/facts/frog-magnetic-field.asp

          Now what was the definition of a moron again,…in that Umberto Eco quote?:

          “Morons never do the wrong thing. They get their reasoning wrong. Like the fellow who says that all dogs are pets and all dogs bark, and cats are pets, too, therefore cats bark…Morons will occasionally say something that’s right, but they say it for the wrong reason…”

          The aliens have obviously read, Foucault’s Pendulum”. 🙂

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          • well E- if the field reverses, and south is the new north, what does that do to the clue about the chest being north of santa fe. does FF move it? or just say “its now south of santa fe”? or just call the whole thing off? that would confuse a lot of kids studing the civil war too.

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          • bob – That would probably start a whole NEW Civil War,…because the Now-North would want to fight the Now-South,…to abolish the abuse of the levitating frogs…

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          • bob – And of course,…you will be writing the script for that animated movie, also. Who do you think should do the voices for General Lee (Now-North) and General Grant (Now-South)? I think Brad should do the voice for the levitating frog,…since he played opposite the Dalai Llama,…in “Seven Years in Tibet”,…and understands that concept:

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          • bob – But,…maybe,…we can FREE TIBET???!!! Never underestimate the power of a great filmmaker,…who has a GREAT script writer. 🙂

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  13. Everyone – I am posting another reply to David here,…about the blaze,…because I can’t load my other comment on Poem 4:1:

    david – You wrote:

    dalneitzel.com/2015/05/01/forrest-replies-reporter/#comment-86997

    david villarreal
    on May 5, 2015 at 11:32 am said:
    Forrest did say only 2 people know where the chest is at. And 1 one them is dead. The Second person was not refering to himself, but to one that finds it. And how do i know that? Lets say I came across the dead person that forrest never mention.

    Is this that “dead person”?

    “Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.”
    – Benjamin Franklin

    And is it about those special glasses I saw,…in the movie, “National Treasure”,…that were shown in that GMA video recently? 😉

    Or,…maybe that famous image of Franklin’s experiments with lightning,…featuring a kite and a key,…applies? 🙂

    I like the way you think, david.

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  14. I think I can still wear one of Deb’s beautiful bracelets, though,…and hitch a ride on the back of a Harley (especially if I am wearing only my “Wild” hiking boots and my Immunity Idol Necklace!).

    Oh my goodness! I dont think riding a motorcycle naked is a good idea. I can think of so many reasons why, but I am sure you can figure them out?
    The first thing I would ask you is if they let you out on day passes? lol

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    lia – Brutus! It’s a TRAP! :-O

    www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=45.5329&lon=-111.5655&z=14

    And this map goes with your arrowhead mention,…and follows T.S. Eliot’s “Four Quartets” poem excerpt:

    www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=45.1303&lon=-111.4596&z=14

    E* would that area fit my solve and lucky slick arrow head because Forrest is so “Manley”? (See your map.) there are Soooo many places that I would love to see yet and museums to visit, and creeks to wade, meadows to run thru, and go flying or fishing with forrest! Yes, that would be the best.

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    • lia – Yes,…I saw that “Manley” mention on that map,…and I also saw Raw Liver Creek,…which made me think of Liver Eating Johnson,…on whom the movie, “Jeremiah Johnson” was based,…which starred Robert Redford,…who became afraid of the Grizz during filming:

      hub.contactmusic.com/jennifer-lopez/news/redford-conquers-bear-fear

      But Bart the Bear II cured him of that fear,…and that KODIAK Brown bear doesn’t seem to have ANY problem getting HIMSELF out of a TRAP!:

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y77zaw13B_8

      He just had to look incredibly cute,…and sadly forlorn,…in his miserable cage. He did a good job with his acting in that scene, too.

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      • lia – I know,…I know,…what you are thinking,…after watching that video,…and how the little girl gets Bart the Bear II to stop attacking Redford’s character,…but, still,…”Step away from the AIR HORN!” 😉

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        • E* you must think I have a chance, because you are certainly working hard at scaring the living daylight out of me with grizzly stories. Did you really hear that a large male griz was close to my creek and my hillside last week near the Madison? Was he working on a carcass, eating my trout, or just you having a bit of fun with me? Don’t lie, because that’s the treasures job.

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          • lia – Be very, very afraid,…because you will not have a KODIAK Brown bear to protect you,…like I will. The Grizzes are everywhere in the Mountains of Madison County,…like there at the West Fork of the Madison River,…where I almost camped last July. The “Bear Country” warning signs were everywhere, there,…but I figured the Grizzes would head over to the Grizzly Restaurant,…vs. bothering with my meager provisions. 🙂

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          • lia – I just came up with a BRILLIANT idea! I think we should do one of those “Naked Calendars”,…that organizations use to raise money! We could call it, “The Grizzes of Madison County”,…and use photos like this one (taken very close to the road in West Yellowstone):

            icons.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/w/westerner/93-awesome.jpg

            What do you think??? Or are the Grizzes too shy? Brutus could be on the cover,…since he will be spending a lot of time in those Madison County mountains,…heroically protecting you from his cousins. And the proceeds could go to Doug Seus’s Vital Ground and Casey’s Montana Grizz foundation that he started. 🙂

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  16. Everyone – Dal’s blog is really slow lately, huh? Maybe Astree will come over here and see that I have responded to her “AS” mention at Jenny’s?:

    WiseOne – You wrote:

    dalneitzel.com/2015/04/02/scrapbook-one-hundred-thirty-three/#comment-86781

    “Or… the gold could represent the golden ratio phi”

    Astree made a reference to the AS,…over at Jenny’s,…and I believe she meant the first word of The Poem:

    “As I have gone alone in there”

    I think since the golden ratio symbol can also be an “Ef” in Cyrillic,…and the golden triangle looks just like the letter “A”,…that AS means, symbolically, “Ef River” (pictagrams use “S” for River).

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phi

    Phi is also used as a symbol for the golden ratio and on other occasions in math and science.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_triangle_%28mathematics%29#/media/File:Golden_Triangle.svg

    I have considered the shape of the golden triangle as a pathway,…for my Forrest’s Plan B solve,…for a good Boots-in-the-Water route,…follow side b > side a > phi (= golden ratio ?). 🙂

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    • Everyone – But just to confuse you,…”side a” of that golden triangle,…that leads to my spot,…is an “S” also,..the one that was built to keep the Rainbow trout in line,…with that “Boots in the Water” ef-fort,…by the Madison River Foundation in 2010 (probably in Fall,…when the water was lower). 😉

      www.madisonriverfoundation.org/projects.php

      The Foundation’s key goals include “Boots in the Water” projects that apply conservation and preservation for real-world protection of the Madison. Ranging from fencing, well-drilling, fish rescue, and fish barriers to willow planting and in-stream habitat improvements, we’re going all out to get the job done . . . and done well.

      Cabin Creek

      This tributary of the Madison flows into the river below Hebgen Dam. It supports a population of native westslope cutthroat trout that is almost genetically pure. We have obtained a $5,000 grant from PPL Montana to begin to build a fish barrier in the creek.

      The barrier will block upstream migration of rainbow trout from the main stem of the Madison with the goal of rainbow trout from interbreeding with the remnant population of cutthroats. Engineering studies are being completed and the funding of the barrier construction is well underway.

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    • Everyone – And could one of you kind members of the A-Team,…please direct WiseOne over here? That searcher sounded desperate for someone else’s serious opinion on this topic. Thank you for your help. 🙂

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      • E- i see your request for a kind member of the A-team to help out Wise One. i could help i guess, well if i wasnt mean as a snake. so, im out. so sorry.
        and oh, i dont think wise one would listen to me anyway when in the past i called myself dumb one.

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        • bob – I should have been more clear. I needed a member of the A-Team that has NOT ben banned at Dal’s to help me. And now “Suzie” has been nuked by Goofy, too. Maybe “She” will come over here and argue with the Wolf soon? 😉

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          • E- i think so, she rigs hook and sinkers on her line just like yours. anybody care for a glass of punch?

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          • Bob – I will thank you NOT to compare me,…in any way,…to a BAIT fisherman! My quest is to become an even better fly fisherman than Forrest. I will cast my line,..artfully,…above the water,…and let the dry fly float upon “IT”,…or let my wet fly “put in”,…gliding gently down,…inside “IT”. Fly fisherman are much more subtle. 🙂

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          • E- ok, sorry. i see Slurbs has learned placement of sinkers lately. dont know what happened to Cog though. must be on a search.

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    • E* you must love how the ef cryllic, pii, and the triangle fit your plan B trout solve so perfectly. Me, I’m just drinking Olga’s tea in a round glass with a slice of cake before I paddle the last click from the Madison up my creek with my Montana grizz Brutus. Brutus rides in the canoe with me providing stablility when we shoot the rapids through the Bear Trap Canyon. When we paddle up that creek I plan to take my lucky slick arrow point from Forrest. It’s a beauty and probably bigger than what he sent you. I’ll be wearing a t-shirt that reads, “Does this shirt make my bass look bigger!” E*, I always suspected that you are the big mouth bass. True?

      What do you need help with over at Dal’s? I could try to sneak a word in on your behalf.

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      • Oh, and E* try to beat this one in your plan B trout solve…my hs nic name was Finny or Finny J. Not because I look like a fish >

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      • lia – Tht was incredibly funny! Thank you! I just wanted someone to reply to WiseOne’s comment (I included the link to it),…so that searcher could join our discussions here.

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        • E*: lia – And as I stand there,…in my holey trail runners,…ready to cross that moat,…to lay siege upon Forrest’s Rainbow Fortress,…I expect to see this sign,…about 12 ft. away:

          FORREST’S FORTRESS FOR REST (No Grizzes Allowed!)

          That was especially for Astree!

          But Bart the Bear II,…being a KODIAK Brown Bear,…also loves to “bump the curb”,…so he’ll be crossing The Rubicon with me (See: my illustrious ancestor, Julius Caesar). And Brutus,…being a Montana GRIZZ,…can just sit this one out.

          Well, it’s alot of fun to fun around with you E* because you’re a star. Hey, s,tar top. doesn’t that fit your Madison River trout solve where 287 goes into Ennis making a bold s curve on the tar top onto Cemetery Loop road and Shakespear St. And lets not forget there is an Ennis Texas too. When someone finally gets the right solve I would bet my luckE stars that Forrest has twin locations with amazing details. So far, I like your trout solve best of all, it just fits. Well done my fin friend.

          By the way, I just noticed Casey and Brutus dining al fresco. Very funny! You have to admit that while your grizz is, well, more bear… my grizz is much funnier and steals the show.

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      • lia – What I should have said:

        That was too funny, Finny!

        And it is always good to have an experienced search buddy,…when shooting those Bear Trap Canyon rapids,…and not just a Big Brown Bear for balast:

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLTcdOr66lA

        But no,…you cannot borrow Brad for that. Sorry. 😉

        And I think my Crystal Clovis Point,…from the Fenn Collection,…attached to my Spear of Destiny,…trumps your itty bitty arrowhead from Forrest. I am going to find my own one of those,…on Soap Creek,…where Osborne Russell fought the Blackfeet. We can meet in the middle, there,…on the West Fork of the Madison,…at the Grizzly Restaurant,…if you like. I would think THEY allow Grizzes.

        Well,…I can DREAM,…can’t I? 😉

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        • E* why dream if you can’t make it happen? Let’s meet there. When Forrest quit flying he had Shiloh fly him to Suzanne Sommers. You surely could figure out how to see that beautiful Madison country this spring. I hear Montana is beyond lovely in the spring. If you need a nudge, I’ll take you to see Brutus, and I’ll throw in a poster of Brad shooting the rapids on the Boulder River. Most people get that wrong, but ol’finny knows cause she went to camp right THERE on that river. Robert Redford filmed scenes on the Gallatin, Boulder, and Big Blackfoot Rivers. Do you ever wonder if funny Forrest Burk Fin Fenn consulted on A River Runs Through it? I would bet he assisted with authentication of costumes and weapons for my other favorite movie, Dances With Wolves.

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          • lia – Do you think Forrest knows Cathy Smith,…over at the Nambe Trading Post?:

            www.santafenewmexican.com/news/business/hollywood-costume-designer-reopens-nambe-trading-post/article_d8e3eabc-5493-595e-8f87-6b659fefedde.html

            And how about if I bring Brad and Bart the Bear II to meet Brutus,…up there in Bozeman? Wouldn’t THAT be something else? I do want to go back to Montana,…yet again. The Madison River is my new favorite place. And I do want to travel further up the Gallatin River,…to get past the point I drove to last July,…at Big Sky,…and go all the way to Bozeman and Three Forks. Maybe Shiloh can pick me up here,…at the airport? Oh,…no,…it is closed for construction until the end of May. 🙁

            I think I can still wear one of Deb’s beautiful bracelets, though,…and hitch a ride on the back of a Harley (especially if I am wearing only my “Wild” hiking boots and my Immunity Idol Necklace!). 🙂

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  17. Everyone – I am posting this here,…just in case Jenny produces “The Holy Hand Grenade”,…and nukes my post on her blog:

    mysteriouswritings.com/featured-question-with-forrest-capitalization-rules/#comment-99364

    Astree – Since we are discussing Forrest’s capitalization rules,…namely the parts of The Poem like, “home of Brown”,…and “no place for the meek”,…and you mentioned that Bat-tery Energy Drink (with the plus sign for the logo):

    www.batterydrink.com/2015/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/no_cal_v3.jpg
    (Note: that this is yet another “Fin” reference,…because the drink comes from Finland)

    I thought I would share that I found a digital solar-powered panel,…at the base of a tall post,…that housed a nest of three Ospreys,…on the property of the camp,…where I stayed while on The Chase. The owner of the camp said that panel was previously being used to study bats,…but had since been disconnected. And I found a deceased bat, later,…in my camping spot near there. What is interesting,…is that depending on which resource I checked,…the little brown bat,…and the big brown bat,…are sometimes capitalized,…and sometimes not. But I think Forrest wouldn’t have capitalized that “Brown” descriptive,…unlless maybe one tormented him while he secreted the Bronze Chest in a cave?:

    www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/batinfo.htm

    And because of your plus sign (or crux immissa?) reference,…and that you may have been tacitly calling me a not-so-meek Energizer Bunny,…I thought I would post this video of another not-so-meek bunny,…who also lives in a cave (that’s for you, JC1117):

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnOdAT6H94s

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  18. Everyone – And speaking of that Pirate story,…that inspired Forrest (remember that dream he wrote about?):

    Wiseone – If I am going to be hung,…I want it to be with a new rope,…like Captain Kidd (the second time):

    images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/captain-william-kidd-1701-granger.jpg

    I laughed when you wrote:

    dalneitzel.com/2015/04/02/scrapbook-one-hundred-thirty-three/#comment-86786

    WiseOne
    on May 4, 2015 at 8:44 am said:
    If you’re talking about a hangman’s noose knot…
    No Thanks! I assume that’s what you are saying.

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  19. anna:
    Hey Bob, me anna here with a precision type question about wood. I have lots of definitions which could apply in the end steps, but am wondering if you’ve considered wo.stop.at.o.d.with the last letters being stacked rocks with something sticking out the top. Just thinking out of the box which is not unusual for my scattered brain.

    hi anna, i dont understand wo.stop.at.o.d. at all. can you explain?

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    • Sorry Bob, my question wasn’t clear at all. I’m splitting the word down the middle. “Wo” as in woah or stop at the O and d – as if o d represent shapes.. Perhaps stop at the flat round stones.
      Maybe too much imagination isn’t a good thing. Just thinking. Lights out for me. Peace to you.

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  20. E*:
    lia – Step away from the AIR HORN!!!

    What I think is funny, now,…is that one of the first images I texted to Forrest,…after my first trip July 28 – August 2, 2013,…when I stayed in Cabin #2 at Campfire Lodge (See: that “Adventures of Tom Sawyer” story,…and Huck Finn hiding outside in the bushes next to a structure with that number),…was of a handsome man holding a Rainbow trout. I met him within two hours of arriving at that camp. Forrest replied, “Where did he catch it?”. I texted another photo back,…which included my location for my “Forrest’s Plan B” spot,…across the river. Now I realize that Forrest was probably shaking in his “Boots-in-the-Water”,…since the photo of that man was close-up,…and didn’t include any scenery in the background. He may just have thought I had found his spot,…the one in my “Forrest’s Plan A” solve,…the one “in the wood”.

    E* you’ve lost me here. I haven’t been sleeping well and am confUsed 🙂 but it sounds like you know the thoughts inSIDE your brain even though I don’t. Since I can’t shoot anything but a bebe gun, the air horn may help scare some of the critters or cats out of the brush ahead of me. I will step away, they are obnoctiously loud, aren’t they? Please just send f to be brave for me, as i remove soles and hat to crawl into his secret cache of wampum, with high regard of course.

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    • lia – My Forrest’s Plan A solve is out “in there”,…within those Rainbow trout boundaries,…”in the wood”. My Forrest’s Plan B solve is across “IT”,…on the Madison River. By the photo I texted originally,…the one with the handsome man holding the Rainbow trout he caught,…Forrest couldn’t tell WHERE that fish was caught,…ergo,…he was shaking in his Boots-in-the-Water (since it was actually caught near that Cabin Creek fish barrier on the Madison River). Does that help? 🙂

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      • Was that contest real? The exact reel shown was “sold” to someone online. Maybe he has the exact same one and used that photo. Did ff ever say who was correct if any.? My theory… the secret is already in the story.

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        • decall – I think I remember that image of an old fly fishing reel,…that used to belong to Forrest,…but could you please provide a link to it,…over at Dal’s? And I am not sure I understand your point. I don’t remember there being a contest.

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        • decall – Yeah,…I posted a picture of Cabin Creek,…where it meets the Madison River,…to show the gravel there (looks just like that picture in SB 124),…but no one here agreed that was probably where Forrest caught that Rainbow trout in the picture. That’s OK,…I know My Grizz probably thwarted his ef-fort,…to reach my/his Forrest’s Plan A spot,…and that he had to quickly find a Hidey Spot for the Bronze Chest,…while wearing his waders,…after he caught that Rainbow trout. I am glad he was quick,…because My Grizz often crosses the Madison River RIGHT THERE! 😉

          dalneitzel.com/2015/01/11/scrapbook-one-hundred-twenty-four/
          (called “Lost My Spot”)

          And did I mention the WISE blaze image I texted to Forrest (the one that is better than The Wolf’s)? 😉

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          • decall – I think I already know that “secret”, Forrest,…that you said you would tell. And I think “Joe Billy Bob” (aka JBB or JB) is Bob Jacklin:

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oD20daLu-4

            “Instead of telling me, he suddenly disappeared, and his wife had no idea where he went, except that his fly rod also was missing, and so was his box of Midge Blue Duns. I just don’t understand the way JB thinks. What are friends for anyway, if you can’t use them?

            Well, that’s the sad story, and I really don’t know what else to say, except that if anybody can tell me where I caught that beautiful rainbow trout, I’ll tell them a secret that I haven’t revealed to anyone – ever.”

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          • decall – Both of these lines from that story are hints, IMO,…to my Forrest’s Plan B solve:

            “There are a few fault lines in my aptitudes.”
            (he was describing his tendency toward type-Os here)

            “I’d leeve him my prize Pflueger Medalist reel.”
            (he made a type-O here,…but that word ‘leeve” has a meaning that is relevant)

            levee
            noun lev·ee ?le-v?
            Definition of LEVEE
            1
            a : an embankment for preventing flooding
            b : a river landing place : pier
            2
            : a continuous dike or ridge (as of earth) for confining the irrigation areas of land to be flooded

            Think: “If you are brave and in the wood”,…like an Indian paddling a canoe,…in the Tail Waters,…below a certain dam. And there are fault lines in that area,…everywhere! 🙂

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  21. That video sure made me want to get to the mountains. I hope hubby can give me some time soon to get out and see the fish. 🙂

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    • deb – And then you can say, “here Fishay, Fishay”,…instead of bringing all that fishing gear,…like I said I did,…when I had lunch next to the Big Wood River,…at the “S”,…on my drive North of town here,…to check the snow melt at the equal altitudes of my spot and the blaze. 🙂

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  22. E*:
    decall – Scroll down to see the trail head sign,…in Dal’s story,…where I have imagined my “put in” many times:

    dalneitzel.com/2013/08/17/the-british-are-coming/

    I texted a photo of it way back when to Forrest,…with the caption:

    “Lightning and Cutthroats and Grizzes,…Oh my!”

    Since that fish barrier at Cabin Creek prevents Forrest’s treasured Rainbow trout from migrating up there now (since 2010),…to mix with the Westslope Cutthroats.

    E* your solves are superior to mine, but not your Grizz! LoL 😉
    In my solve FF built that secret weir late fall when the fishers and grizzlys are a long way away. But I don’t plan to confirm its location. I just know its there and I’ll take the high and dry route where I can look for a local medicine wheel or teepee ring to keep my trout company. Do you think an air horn would scare smaller critters out if the wood before I go IN there?

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    • lia – Step away from the AIR HORN!!!

      What I think is funny, now,…is that one of the first images I texted to Forrest,…after my first trip July 28 – August 2, 2013,…when I stayed in Cabin #2 at Campfire Lodge (See: that “Adventures of Tom Sawyer” story,…and Huck Finn hiding outside in the bushes next to a structure with that number),…was of a handsome man holding a Rainbow trout. I met him within two hours of arriving at that camp. Forrest replied, “Where did he catch it?”. I texted another photo back,…which included my location for my “Forrest’s Plan B” spot,…across the river. Now I realize that Forrest was probably shaking in his “Boots-in-the-Water”,…since the photo of that man was close-up,…and didn’t include any scenery in the background. He may just have thought I had found his spot,…the one in my “Forrest’s Plan A” solve,…the one “in the wood”. 🙂

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      • lia – And when Forrest asked, “Where did he catch it?”,…I should have answered, “In the mouth.” That’s what I would answer now,…since I discovered how Cub Creek looks like a hook in my topo outline Rainbow trout’s mouth,…and since that story on Dal’s blog said that La Lee and her husband, Jake,…and their dogs were “caught” by My Grizz,…near the mouth of that creek there. 🙂

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  23. bob:
    yeah Deb! i think you are right! i wonder if they can put INSIDE the home of Brown though? jackhammer maybe?

    Hey Bob, ‘put in’ is a hiker’s term for the trail head start; more commonly kayakers and fishermen ‘put in’ on a river… as in start the journey following the river just below house rock.

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    • lia- thanks for that information, but having owned a canoe for over 20 years now i am quite familiar with the phrase “put in”. and it is incorrect to use “put in” when hiking or boating. it’s another one of those mistakes humans commonly make without thinking. nobody “puts in” when hiking or boating. the correct terminology to use here would be embark. fish are IN the river or stream. the only time a human can say that he or she has put in the river is when swimming and for a brief moment is completely underwater holding their breath. when completely surrounded by water. otherwise you are simply ON the water not IN it. to “put in” a hiking trail, one must bury themselves in the dirt and rocks. i dont think Forrest carelessly used the word IN. it may be the most important word in the entire poem. notice i used the word “IN” in that last sentence and here, its usage is correct because the word IN is surrounded by many other words in the poem. yes, i agree with you though to “put in below the home of Brown” Forrest is using the slang version of the phrase. the reason i think IN could be important is because his poem metaphorically sends you OUT. and in my opinion, the chest is IN. IN white paint stencil on the lid. (doorbell) oh, ive got company, gotta go…”Come In(side)!!!”

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        • decall – I was thinking the same thing,…as I read Bob’s post,…and then I saw your reply. I always try to remeber that it is “Finding Fenn” that we are after,…in trying to solve his word usage in The Poem. But I agree with Lia here. I think “put in” can apply to going into the water,…or onto the shore,…with a boat. Or embarking on a journey,…with “no paddle up your creek”,…at a trail head,…that is “below the home of Brown”:

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          • decall – Scroll down to see the trail head sign,…in Dal’s story,…where I have imagined my “put in” many times:

            dalneitzel.com/2013/08/17/the-british-are-coming/

            I texted a photo of it way back when to Forrest,…with the caption:

            “Lightning and Cutthroats and Grizzes,…Oh my!”

            Since that fish barrier at Cabin Creek prevents Forrest’s treasured Rainbow trout from migrating up there now (since 2010),…to mix with the Westslope Cutthroats. 🙂

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          • Bob – I read your great script over on The Poem thread,…between you and that little guy that disappears a lot,…and that made me note this quote,…above The Poem:

            “This poem written by Forrest Fenn contains nine clues that if followed precisely, will lead to the end of his rainbow and the treasure. Happy Hunting!”

            And then I remembered that Fran Warren sang a song called, “Look to the Rainbow”,…that was featured in the Broadway play, “Finian’s Rainbow”,…and that she also recorded that same song Judy Garland did,…only better. Hey,…that is another “Fin” refererence!:

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finian%27s_Rainbow

            And what if Forrest put his secret weir at the end of Forest Creek (to prevent upstream Cutthroat migration),…and then stocked that aptly named creek with his treasured Rainbow trout,…for his own private fly fishing pleasure? That would fit into the quote above. And it would also fit into his penchant for “bumping the curb”. I’ll have to bring my Hardy Zenith fly fishing outfit to check that out. Brad can carry that for me,…since I think Bart the Bear II might be a little rough with it. 🙂

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          • E- yes, i did see indy in that clip immediately i thought the ABC clip-making person (dont know proper title) was trying to make the connection between indiana jones using a book to find what he was looking for to that of searchers for FF treasure, also using a book. to make their point. and the subliminial message here is just as indiana jones is not real(hoax) so is the FF treasure. We shall prove them wrong though.

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          • Bob – Wow! That’s a pretty big boat,…that someone “put in below the home of Brown”,…right arout the trail head to my spot:

            www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=44.8947&lon=-111.3464&z=13

            Maybe they foresaw the “heavy loads and water high” of 1959, downstream at “no place for the meek”,…when Earthuake Lake was formed,…and that massive slide came down the mountain at the end of “IT”? If the sirens go off at Campfire Lodge,…we are all toast, btw:

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          • Hey Bob, me anna here with a precision type question about wood. I have lots of definitions which could apply in the end steps, but am wondering if you’ve considered wo.stop.at.o.d.with the last letters being stacked rocks with something sticking out the top. Just thinking out of the box which is not unusual for my scattered brain.

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      • Hi Bob, I kinda figured you knew precisely the correct use of in. I’m not an English wiz but figure Fenn is and so I’ve always believed two things to be true at the final foot of his treasure…you must be in some form of wood (ie: small copse of trees, underbrush, deadwood) also knowledgeable
        2. It rests below Brown in the poem, possibly below the surface of earth, possibly below an ancient brown.

        Bob thanks that was a fun grammar discussion. But I’m still wondering if I can get thru my Fenn with hiking boots and protective clothing or if I need waders. Those free satellite images just dont quite get you there. My partner and I are trying to be well prepared but hiking in waders isn’t a good option.

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        • lia – Might a suggest an old pair of holey trail runners,…that might have been ruined while walking along “IT”? Or maybe a lightweight pair of Teva sandals,…placed in your backpack? You will know me on the trail,…because I will be wearing ONLY these,…and my Immunity Idol Necklace:

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          • lia – And as I stand there,…in my holey trail runners,…ready to cross that moat,…to lay siege upon Forrest’s Rainbow Fortress,…I expect to see this sign,…about 12 ft. away:

            FORREST’S FORTRESS FOR REST (No Grizzes Allowed!)

            That was especially for Astree! 🙂

            But Bart the Bear II,…being a KODIAK Brown Bear,…also loves to “bump the curb”,…so he’ll be crossing The Rubicon with me (See: my illustrious ancestor, Julius Caesar). And Brutus,…being a Montana GRIZZ,…can just sit this one out. 😉

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          • lia – Correction (for Astree):

            FORREST’S FORTRESS FOR RESTS (No Grizzes Allowed!)

            How could I forget Forrest’s last “S”? 🙂

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          • lia – And it looks like it’s going to be the English vs. the French again,…for yet another famous historical siege (See: the 13th Century and the images on the Bronze Chest),…and that Forrest person,…in the castle fortress,…might think of launching Elk carcasses over the walls,…but only the Grizzes (and maybe Bart the Bear II?) will be distracted by that often used tactic. The rest of us will NOT “Run away!”:

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey0wvGiAH9g&feature=player_embedded

            Note: they go to the Forrest’s Plan A spot,…using coconuts for horses,…and then they take a boat,…via the water route,…to the Forrest’s Plan B spot.

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          • E* as usual you crack me up. I could not afford those expensive hiking boots. Should I start calling you Reese?
            I will take last years trail runners along. I’m still thinking about precisely where my fin would lie. I’m at the junction of tailwaters so maybe the fin sticks up in the air in there in the wood. I honestly don’t know and hope I can figure it out. Maybe bobs stencil shows the way. Lol

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          • lia – See: the “fin”(s),…of the spawning Rainbow trout in this video (@ 2:22):

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x7q9Ha9qaA&feature=player_embedded

            I studied the times and WWWH in relation to “IT”,…in those “Tail Waters” below Hebgen Dam,…and their spawning schedules. I also listened to fly fishermen grousing about how the PPL folks had increased the flow of “IT” to 1300 cfs,…to help with agriculture issues downstream,…which blew out the channels for the all-important spawn. I even texted Forrest that I thought The Poem was the down and back journey of a Rainbow trout,…from the “water high” in the “home of Brown”,…to where the “treasure lies” to spawn. I’ll bet he got tired of my silly texts back then. 🙂

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  24. E*:
    anna – I don’t know if you saw previously my explorations of the Keyhole,…Hyalite Peak,…the “Big Brown” rock that river rafters avoid in the Gallantin River,…and the nearby trail along Storm Castle Creek,…that leads to Storm Castle Peak? Talk about a FORTRESS,…where there could be a SIEGE,…like the one shown on Forrest’s Bronze Chest:

    cdn.yellowstoneparknet.com/images/content/2901_325_Montana_Gallatin_River_md.jpg

    www.outsidebozeman.com/activities/hiking-backpacking/hiking-storm-castle-peak

    www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=45.4455&lon=-111.2308&z=14

    E* would you believe me if I told you I had peeked through that exact keyhole many moons ago? Yep, that solve may be the only one we have in common and it’s a beauty. Any yes, house rock sits just upstream from the “mad mile” which is no place for the meek. I think that brown rock is pegmatite, but couldn’t confirm it. What is your estimation. By the way, TT’s ranch is just downstream and draws nigh with no paddle up the creek. Did you know there is a Spiderman connection to Turner? He and Fenn must be friends with their mutual interest in land/habitat preservation. Have you noticed the double omegas high on the west side hills at the entrance to Spanish Creek, or that magnificent Bison herd. Mostly just the locals know about that fs gem which is the trailhead to the coolest blaze in Montana. Its a vast area to search beyond but perfect type of property near the cabin. FS land allows geocaching, metal detecting, some digging, etc. Beyond there its BLM/wilderness designated. They would definitely fight for the trove, but there is always stream law exceptions.

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    • Lia – Thank you for all that confirming informaton to that hypothetical solve. But I probably won’t veer from my original “Where the Treasure Lies” solve (get it? “lies”? Like the places where Forrest’s treasured Rainbow trout hide out in his “secret weir”?). Especially the suggestion that it might be good for rafters going “canyon down” to “put in below the home of Brown” (as in, “put in”,…onto the shore),…before that “no place for the meek”,…the “mad mile”. The Gallatin River flows North through that canyon,…but rafters are still travelling “canyon down” through it.

      I have never been to that area,…I only drove from West Yellowstone North to Big Sky, Montana and back one afternoon,…then drove all the way home here afterward (on 7-11-14). I didn’t stop to check out the sights,…I just enjoyed the scenery. I wish I had seen the Double Omegas on those west side hills, though. 🙂

      And I will put a “tight focus”,…using my Spidey sense,…to see what else I can discover in that Spanish Peak area.

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  25. E*:
    Bob – I think Forrest must have been reading over here,…and saw that I was “planning to hike naked.”

    dalneitzel.com/2015/04/28/the-nine-
    clues-22/#comment-86489

    Oh dear, E* Please reconsider hiking naked. Its just totally unsafe to do that. Not only could you fall down and come up with one more piercing, but you never know who is watching. Then there is the possibility of getting ticks on you in very inconvenient places! I dont know about you but I try to avoid needing other people to remove nasty old blood suckers from me.

    Update from Forrest: “The treasure is still there and with school almost out a lot of people will be searching. Please dress warm and be safe”

    The link to his facebook page is at the bottom of the this page.

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    • Deb – Oh,…so MEN,…who go out hunting for snakes for their ceremony,… can get away with wearing practically NO clothes,…but I have to wear them,…because I’m a GIRL?! I think they are in more danger of having something important being bitten off,..than I am of falling and having an accidental piercing!:

      www.mcmahanphoto.com/lc897–hopi-indian-snake-hunt-edward-s-curtis-1907-photo.html

      And it will just be Me and Brad and Bart the Bear II makes THREE,…and the Grizzes always hike naked. Brad can do whatever he wants,…he might be shy. And I promise not to fall anywhere in his vicinity. 😉

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  26. E*:
    decall – Personally,…I think Forrest “arrived at Stella Lake” in a Fighter Jet,…by flying over it,…while he was training USAF pilots,…while stationed in Arizona (and getting up at 4:00am to do so!). Wheeler Peak in Nevada is at 13,063 ft.,…so it’s a pretty big obstacle to avoid. I’ll bet he was curious and decided to explore around there,…finding Stella Lake on foot,…later:

    img.geocaching.com/cache/b5b176a9-20f2-4833-81b0-6a63733f7cf6.jpg

    E*:
    decall – I remember someone over at Dal’s pointing out mirror locations in New Mexico and Nevada for Wheeler Peak (where 49 dollers and I BOTH found Stella Lake),…but has anyone pointed out Wheeler Mountain and the nearby Bear Lake and Bear Creek in Montana,…as shown on this topo map selection? Maybe Forrest has a connection to that area, too?:

    www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=45.4974&lon=-111.0897&z=14

    E* I like your ideas on Wheeler Peak, MT. He did it tired…wheeled to the peak on jeep roads. Big brown bear lake behind him. The elevations and distances are perfect. Are you using glacial boulders or catch basins as WWWH? Do you know which River Bear creek feeds I nto at confluence?
    This area is not too far by from lightening creek area and that solve is spot on with f and Donnie’s Red Canyon adventure which may have ended near Taylor’s Fork into Gallatin Canyon. That is your strongest solve in my opinion. Let me know if you find property or family connections in hyalite or Wheeler area.

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    • anna – I don’t know if you saw previously my explorations of the Keyhole,…Hyalite Peak,…the “Big Brown” rock that river rafters avoid in the Gallantin River,…and the nearby trail along Storm Castle Creek,…that leads to Storm Castle Peak? Talk about a FORTRESS,…where there could be a SIEGE,…like the one shown on Forrest’s Bronze Chest:

      cdn.yellowstoneparknet.com/images/content/2901_325_Montana_Gallatin_River_md.jpg

      www.outsidebozeman.com/activities/hiking-backpacking/hiking-storm-castle-peak

      www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=45.4455&lon=-111.2308&z=14

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    • anna – And there is a Crescent Lake Trail in that general Hyalite vicinty:

      www.trails.com/topomap.aspx?trailid=HGR186-025

      “The trail to Crescent Lake is an easy meander through the forest to a small crescent-shaped lake. The return trail follows the shoreline of Hyalite Reservoir. This large recreational area is surrounded by picturesque mountains in every direction.”

      And there was a great photo of an outhouse with a crescent moon on the door,…at the Squaw Creek Cabins in that Gallantin River area,…but I can’t find it now. You don’t want to go digging under there anyway,…right? 😉

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      • anna – Did I mention that I was at Campfire Lodge,…camping below my spot,…the week of August 14-19, 2013,…when there was a massive fire in my home area? Well,…the evening before I was supposed to leave,…I was driving back from the Grizzly Restaurant in Cameron, MT,…and came over the ridge next to Quake Lake,…and saw what looked like an Atomic Mushroom Cloud in the distance (toward Big Sky, MT). It scared me enough to pack out and go back home,…even though that alternative was not AT ALL attractive at the time. That fire turned out to be near the area I am describing here. If I do go there,…and brave the Grizzes that are all over the place,…out in that backcountry, also,…I would stay in the Garnet Lookout Tower,…which the public can reserve. There are some great photos under that title,…if you scroll down on this blog site,…and under the heading below it, called, “Storm Castle”:

        ourbigskyadventure.blogspot.com/

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    • Morning E* You have been busy lately… 🙂 Thank you for all your posts… The one about him flying over Stella Lake made me wonder… Forrest has so many pictures of his life do you think he has some film footage of him flying??? That would be really cool to see 🙂

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      • Spallies – I found a great coffee table book with aerial images,…just like this one of the Big Horn Medicine Wheel (which was also in that great book, along with Yellowstone Falls),…that were taken through the bombsite of a plane:

        www.airphotona.com/image.asp?imageid=17415

        I would guess that Forrest has some of those,…since he flew all of those types of planes,…that he said he did,…while serving in the USAF,…and travelling the world.

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  27. E*:
    anna – Look for “the end of Forrest’s Rainbow and the treasure”:
    E* Anna’s smart enough to sleep. I’m the only one up reading posts, but I found the trout and my solve now has three ends of rainbows..1. It looks like your trout diving down into my stream 2. I will look for F’s medal of honor in the trees 3. His secret trout weir he built in the stream. (That one I’m taking his word for and not going on that trail with the bear)

    i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k499/brookiewv/Art/Rainbow_Trout.jpg

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    • lia – There might be a couple of Forrest’s medals,…used as blazes,…”in the wood”:

      newsantaana.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Purple-Heart-768×1024.jpg

      s.ecrater.com/stores/25241/47af9a3154b6c_25241n.jpg

      And I noted that the way MY trout is positioned,…with the curve of the colors of the Rainbow,…along its back,…has significance to where I believe the pot o’ gold to be,…at “the end of Forrest’s rainbow”. And I laughed when I realized that the trout’s fin is located along Forest Creek. Then,…that would be a “Forrest fin”,…wouldn’t it? Didn’t that reporter last Monday night,…spell his name, “Forrest Finn”? And then there is that disputed “barricade” from that Seeger poem I posted. Hmmm,…if Forrest secreted the Bronze Chest on one side,…of what is probably is a 12 ft. wide creek,…those West Yellowstone Rangers might nab it,…making that a:

      U.S.F.S. Forest Fin

      But if the Bronze Chest is below the water line,…hidden in Forrest’s ‘secret weir’,…in Forest Creek,…then that is the jurisdiction of Montana Fish & Game (= the “Treasure State”), I believe,…and would be in the public domain,…and so would be a:

      Forest (Creek) Fin

      But if the Bronze Chest is hidden inside the boundaries of that Rainbow trout outline,…formed along the back of that trout by public waterways (that make kind of a moat for Forrest’s potential ef-fort),…then that would make that dorsal part of the anatomy of that trout a:

      Forrest fin

      Some name translations I found:

      Forrest – a person who works in a forest.
      Burk – Lives in a fortress.
      Fenn – A marshy area bordering the edge of a forest.

      Check. Check. And Check. 🙂

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      • lia – Here is a complete list of Forrest’s medals he received:

        www.85fis.doncondra.org/Forrest%20Fenn%20Story.htm

        “My personal contribution to the Vietnam War was of dubious distinction. I had been shot down once in the south of that country and once again in Laos . My reward for all of that was about a thousand dollars a month in pay, a Silver Star, three Distinguished Flying Crosses, a Bronze Star, sixteen Air Medals and a Purple Heart. And then, as I was boarding the plane that brought me home, two South Vietnamese pilots came running up and handed me a small box, saying “We want you to have this.” It was the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, their country’s highest medal. Although it was not officially presented, I still value it and the appreciation that came with it. Never mind how important those things were to me at the time, they later added up to a big empty. Was there nothing better to show for that year away from my family and risking my life every day? Maybe so!”

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        • E* it’s nice to remember Forrest for his honor and bravery. Perhaps what defines his true character best is the photo of him in Vietnam Nam holding two adorable orphan girls. I love that he and Peggy cared for and clothed the little ones in a war zone.
          I’m reminded of Christ Jesus teaching, “As you have done to the least of these you have done to Me.”

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      • ‘)(‘ APPLAUSE PLEASE for E* ‘)(‘

        That’s the best boundary, property discussion and solution I’ve seen. Pure genius and all about fly fishing! Now I know why you’ve been banned. They are jealous;-)

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      • anna – And here is another Forrest Fin (or Finn):

        (2) : an airfoil attached to an airplane for directional stability.

        Origin of FIN
        Middle English finn, from Old English
        First Known Use: before 12th century

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      • lia – And since Forrest said last Monday night,…that he would have made a good Pirate,…might I add that my Double Omega Island,…might just be somewhere in the middle of one of those “fortress moats”,…in which case someone at Dals’ said it would be considered to be in the public domain. And Captain Kidd’s Clake’s Island story would apply. Brad and Bart the Bear II and me make THREE,…forming a triangle,…on tha’ thar spit o’ land,…at Midnight,…under a full moon,…with the mosquitos everywhere,…being vewy, vewy quiet,…just in case. 😉

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  28. E*:
    decall – I remember someone over at Dal’s pointing out mirror locations in New Mexico and Nevada for Wheeler Peak (where 49 dollers and I BOTH found Stella Lake),…but has anyone pointed out Wheeler Mountain and the nearby Bear Lake and Bear Creek in Montana,…as shown on this topo map selection? Maybe Forrest has a connection to that area, too?:

    www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=45.4974&lon=-111.0897&z=14

    E*:
    decall – I remember someone over at Dal’s pointing out mirror locations in New Mexico and Nevada for Wheeler Peak (where 49 dollers and I BOTH found Stella Lake),…but has anyone pointed out Wheeler Mountain and the nearby Bear Lake and Bear Creek in Montana,…as shown on this topo map selection? Maybe Forrest has a connection to that area, too?:

    www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=45.4974&lon=-111.0897&z=14

    E*:
    decall – I remember someone over at Dal’s pointing out mirror locations in New Mexico and Nevada for Wheeler Peak (where 49 dollers and I BOTH found Stella Lake),…but has anyone pointed out Wheeler Mountain and the nearby Bear Lake and Bear Creek in Montana,…as shown on this topo map selection? Maybe Forrest has a connection to that area, too?:

    Let us know E* if you find a Forrest connection to Bear Creek. I’ve been into hyalite a few times but not to Wheeler Mountain. My guess is F has summited most peaks and fished a thing fishable from Bozeman to Jackson Hole. I’m listening to the beautifully orchestrated sound track to Dances With Wolves and Somewhere In Time trying to fall asleep. His wolf ate my counted sheep;)

    www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=45.4974&lon=-111.0897&z=14

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  29. Everyone – Does anyone who has TTOTC book know which story musstag is referring to? I would like to see if that story is posted over on Forrest’s blog:

    dalneitzel.com/2015/04/28/the-nine-clues-22/#comment-86331

    Musstag on April 30, 2015 at 8:48 pm said:
    OK, I would like every ones opinion on this. On Page 48 of TTOTC book, is ff giving us a clue than a nickname given in jest should be Capitalzed. Read where it sez ” when Frosty is given an inch, he thinks hes a ruler.” Then he sez “The Ruler thought ….” (note ff uses a capped ‘R’ for ruler)

    Now if you agree with that, then IMO I know several things about brown, One is that its a nickname and maybe it was given in jest.

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    • Everyone – More from musstag on that topic,…and my response:

      Musstag – You wrote:

      dalneitzel.com/2015/04/28/the-nine-clues-22/#comment-86374

      Musstag
      on May 1, 2015 at 9:26 am said:
      Yep, at one time I thought it was that stinking brown gravey that he used to have to wash out of the ‘giant’ kettles….

      That “stinking brown gravy” comes pouring down from those ‘giant’ kettles,…every Spring,…during the annual runoff,…and turns “IT” into “Old Muddy”,…which is the bane of every fly fisherman in the “home of Brown” vicinity:

      flypatternsfortrout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Cabin-Creek.jpg

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    • That would be from TTOTC chapter entitled, The Totem Cafe Caper. The story of Forrests job as a dish washer.
      I am not sure if he has that chapter as an excerpt on his blog page.

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      • Deb – Thank you for that info. And that story is not on Forrest’s blog page. But I get that musstag is inferring that Forrest used that “Ruler” capitalization to show emphasis,…to Frosty’s nickname,…kinda like the gosh-darned Mud that comes down in a deluge,…from the “home of Brown”,…to ruin his great fly fishing trip? Or,…maybe My Grizz,…or a previously troublesome Grizz relative,…ruined those trips also,…and garnered the nickname, “Brown”? Or,…maybe that 10 lb. trout Bob Mackie caught on the Madison River,…in that deep hole (near that picture I posted above),…was the “Brown” that got away multiple times from Forrest?

        Those are my theories,…and I’m stickin’ to ’em! 🙂

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        • Deb – Correction: that was Bob Jacklin who caught the 10 lb. Brown trout,…in that deep hole,…on the Madison River,…and I’ll bet Forrest will never forget “IT”. 🙂

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          • E* I saw that video of him catching that fish. That was awesome. I wonder if Forrest has ever caught anything that big? That was one big fish! 🙂

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  30. E*:
    decall – For example,…does this depiction of the Fountain of Fortune,…from “The Book of Love”,…penned and illustrated by the Good King Rene D’ Anjou,…have any significance to you?:

    Maybe that beautiful Romanesque chest once held King Rene’s beautiful Book of Love. Wouldn’t that be something.

    quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/wp-content/uploads/Fountain_of_Fortune_300.jpg

    kingrene.guice.org/renentro.html

    In case Jenny’s reading this,…he was a KNIGHT who fought along side that great FEMALE KNIGHT, Joan of Arc, btw.

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      • That’s nice Decall. You must be a very affirming husband and father. Watch over your little ones if they search with you. While the land formation may not be a dangerous place, the poem reads “no place for the meek” and there are clearl Red Danger signs in the chapter re children with ropes. Predators can be hidden. I’m not sure where you are from but my own city kids didn’t have the wilderness knowledge to understand hidden danger where grizz, Cougars, and rattlers make their homes.
        (Ignorance is not equal to bravery.)

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        • Omg we were on snowmobiles and following fresh bear tracks. Big bear tracks… we decided to go up hill away from the bear and decided to walk in the snow. We saw wolf tracks and possibly cat tracks.
          I took 1 of my sons… 2 bear sprays and a 9mm

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          • decall – If you see any Elk hunters out there,…which you very well might,…they will tell you that a 9mm might be good for firing a warning shot to scare My Grizz only. And they would probably recommend a Savage .300 Win Mag rifle

            www.tombstonetactical.com/images/savage-arms/19151-1-large.jpg

            But here’s MY warning to all you Treasure Hunters out there:

            Leave My Grizz alone,…or I’ll send Bart the Bear II in after you! 🙂

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    • anna – I found this ivory casket,…while researching the siege images on Forrest’s Bronze Chest. It might be an even better repository for King Rene’s “Book of Love”:

      upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/French_-_Casket_with_Scenes_of_Romances_-_Walters_71264_-_Top.jpg

      Lid of the Walters Casket, with the Siege of the Castle of Love at left, and jousting. Paris, 1330-1350.

      I don’t know if Forrest’s Bronze Chest is big enough to hold those books I have in mind, though.

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      • E* true totc confession here…
        it’s been a rough day emotionally for me. But your beautiful posts of illuminated manuscripts and ivory ‘relief’ caskets has tuned my heart to the joy station. Thank you! Hey it was fun to see Forrest interviewed and delightful to hear him say he would be happy if someone found it tomorrow. Because wouldn’t the lucky finder be filled with joy to thank Forrest while he’s still enjoying life. I hope I’m as relevant and productive in my 80’s.

        On a side note, I’ve tried finding your hidden trout in topo lines on 3 sites but failed. Did find an Egyptian dog to go with one of your solves over in Madison country.

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        • anna – In my “D’Nile is a River in Egypt” Solve,…I looked into the god Anubis,…who has the head of a Jackal canine,…but I just found Wepwawet,…who has the head of a Wolf canine. Which one did you find in your search of the Mountains of Madison County?:

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wepwawet

          Over time, the connection to war, and thus to death, led to Wepwawet also being seen as one who opened the ways to, and through, Duat, for the spirits of the dead. Through this, and the similarity of the jackal to the wolf, Wepwawet became associated with Anubis, a deity that was worshiped in Asyut, eventually being considered his son. Seen as a jackal, he also was said to be Set’s son. Consequently, Wepwawet often is confused with Anubis.[2] This deity appears in the Temple of Seti I at Abydos.

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        • anna – See the trout….

          www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=44.8900&lon=-111.2980&z=14

          I think I pointed it out to lia,…when we were discussing her solution,…which involved the Bronze Chest possibly being on private property.

          And if you are REALLY imaginative,…you can see the Face on Mars,…or Olmec Jadeite Mask,…within those trout boundaries (easier to see on Terrain View with the little box checked). 🙂

          And if you have REALLY good eyesight,…you may be able to change the map to Satellite View,…to see My Grizz. 😉

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        • Anna, I hope you are feeling better today? We all have bad days from time to time. The thing I really love about the chase is there are always good people willing and able to help in any way they can.
          Its a good group of people. 🙂

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  31. E*:
    anna – Thank you for saying that. I do always try to convey ideas in my posts that are positive and fun (even though Jenny sometimes doesn’t think so!). But now I am sad. Because I miss vgboss.

    Talk about sad E*, your inferences regarding those beautiful poems almost made it sound like You or Decall think f is honor bound to say permanent good byes when found. and if that were true, me and my partner and our Grizz won’t ever find it. No interpretation needed here, just plain spoken lespect for life and the love of life philosophy FF lives by.

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    • anna – No,…because Forrest changed his mind,…when he recovered from Kidney Cancer,…and then he made a plan to hide JUST the Bronze Chest,…and not his bones on top of it. And he/Dal said that he changed the text of The Poem, accordingly, at that point. But he HAS said that he didn’t change the location of where he decided to hide the Bronze Chest.

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      • Ah, thanks for that information E* and sense of reason. In discussions with my partner she thought much the same, that f would probably love his location to remain a secret so it’s always his alone, but I’m sure he would never want the finder to feel responsible for the timing of his going. Sometimes you get too close to the situation and can’t find Forrest through the trees. LOL, pun intended.

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        • anna – Sitting on this info. I came up with,…for more than TWO YEARS,…not telling anyone but Forrest about my observations and insights (except for a few little hints EVERYWHERE on these blogs),…has been pure torture. It is nice to finally share it here,…with those searchers that care and are listening. If I give away Forrest’s Hidey Spot,…that he was planning to use in the future,…then, oh well,…his plans just changed. I am sure My Grizz can be of assistance,…ala that last scene in “Legends of the Fall” (when Tristan dies a “good death” at the hands of Bart the Bear),…if Forrest really needs an alternate plan. 😉

          OK,…that wasn’t very positive,…now was it?

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          • It has been pure torture. The natural salesman in me wants to sell others on My solution….. how nuts is that?? But the closer you get to the complete correct solve, how can you talk about it.. I blab to my family and business associates all the time, but that has no satisfaction…. and only one person can possibly bring in the tc with the other 50k people as losers

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          • E* so here is a philosophical question. If you KNEW where the tc was, and you had the means to get it, would you go get it or would you tell the world where it is?

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          • decall – I’ll cross that bridge,…over that stream,…that I am sure will be “worth the cold”,…when I come to it. I am waiting by the phone to hear from Brad and Bart the Bear II. 🙂

            And I do not read chasechat,…or post over there. I liked Stephanies old blog much better,…you can tell her that for me,…if you want. I did see your pie image you directed to me over there, though. That was neat.

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          • decall – And if I am the searcher that is fortunate enough,…and capable,…to retrieve the Bronze Chest,…my retrieving it doesn’t matter. It is the really great thing I am planning to do with it that does. That will be my message,…which I will keep to myself for now.

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        • E*, here I go again, saying to much, (mostly on chasechat) but SB 126 is the most valuable hint(s) ever given by ff. imo his attempt to level the playing field. the person within 200′ already understands it. Arrrrrg how do you trick me into saying stuff.. what are the actual first 2 clues? your instincts are good. You have the right question and the wrong answers on this picture.

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    • I think you may be right anna….. I have been thinking this all week. What if something were to happen shortly after the tc is found. I don’t think it’s honor bound, more like personal control of it like his dad. I have more ideas, but wouldn’t want my speculation to cast any negative shadows on ff.

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  32. lia – Ooooh, Jenny,…dangerous intel, right?:

    mysteriouswritings.com/chatting-with-forrest-fenn-medicine-rock/#comment-99094

    lia – I had a photo I texted to various blog moderators,…of a Fox tattoo on the forearm of a woman who is the hostess at my favorite local restaurant,…and the caption read, “What does The Fox say?”. That was a nod to my belief that Forrest has a fox-like craftiness in how he communicates with us. 🙂

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  33. Everyone – Here at Remote Jenny’s Space Station:

    JCM and astree – Forrest did say in that interview Monday night that he would have made a good Pirate. I think that is significant to how he planned this hunt. JCM wrote:

    mysteriouswritings.com/featured-question-with-forrest-capitalization-rules/#comment-99059

    “I recall that f said at one point that he never read or studied about other treasure hunts and how they were set or designed; it wasn’t significant to the clues so I didn’t copy the reference.”

    He also said previously that there was a certain pirate story he may have referred to,…and a dream he had about that story.

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    • Everyone – From Forrest’s “Treasures Galore” story:

      “And I know there are costs. Every Montana evening when I smashed a mosquito on my arm, fifteen of his relatives came to the funeral. But the rewards of traipsing through the hills and canyon bottoms are winner-take-all proof of personal fulfillment for me.”

      Watch for those Montana mosquitos,…if you search for Forrest’s Pirate Treasure,…in the moonlight,…and don’t bring a Big Mouth Bass (like ME!):

      www.bio.umass.edu/biology/conn.river/kidd.html

      But me and Brad Pitt and Bart the Bear II make THREE,…and they’ve both done the mosquito thing before,…in those mountain with rivers movies they made. And I have thick skin apparently. 🙂

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  34. Everyone – Yet another post that didn’t go through,…over at Jenny’s. I am beginning to wonder what her criteria really are for posting over at her site?:

    Liviu – You wrote in that last line of Forrest’s quote:

    mysteriouswritings.com/featured-question-with-forrest-capitalization-rules/#comment-99018

    “And circum-stance to the treasure”

    Which made me think of Dan Brown’s book, “The Lost Symbol”,…in which the Washington Monument held The Word that was KEY. Oh,…could The Chase that Robert Langdon followed in that book be relevant? And could that book be the “home of Brown”?

    And an obelisk in the middle of a circumpunct,…sure looks like a good definition of “circum-stance” to me!:

    i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/LaHuesera/kellscircumpunct1_zps89dfb024.jpg

    I also like this circumpunct from Dante’s Divine Comedy about Paradise:

    4.bp.blogspot.com/-oNGEE7bs18o/UAO8mjrQCMI/AAAAAAAAAqs/3pQyFwJqDzM/s400/WhiteRose_Dore.jpg

    The circumpunct is the alchemical symbol for GOLD (ie. “I give you title to the gold”),…and also a symbol for the Self (ie. “I have gone alone in there”). And I believe it has something to do with one of Forrest’s blazes.

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    • Everyone – I am going to start my own thread here called, Jenny’s Satellite Blog at the End of the Universe,…if Mike says it’s OK:

      Liviu – And you wrote:

      “That passage and the one about the X being on the map in spirit are the ones that intrigue me the most.”

      There is a faint image of the confluence of the rivers in Three Forks, MT on one of the pages of TFTW,…in a map behind Peggy wearing her dancing costume as a child. That confluence looks like a Christian crux immissa to me,…which would fit your description perfectly (“on the map in Spirit”). And Forrest didn’t put an X on the map for us,…the Creator did. This image from the movie poster for “Dragonfly”,…looks just like it to me:

      www.crankycritic.com/archive02/posters/dragonfly.jpg

      That is one of the outermost blazes in my imagined target format,…which I believe is a marker that Forrest may have used to turn and approach West Yellowstone Airport.

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    • anna – Just for you,…because you asked me earlier about the symbols found in Dan Brown’s book, “The Lost Symbol”. The lead character, Robert Langdon, solves this puzzle as follows:

      Before:

      miranmohammad.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/i_020.png

      After:

      3.bp.blogspot.com/-C0ndYDOwVbY/T-HPzyMdOHI/AAAAAAAAAEo/88wYmmfmbQ4/s1600/heredom.png

      And then he later finds The Word that is KEY in the Washington Monument. 🙂

      I call King’s X on Robert Langdon as a search buddy! I called it! 🙂

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        • Deb – I am blushing. Thank you for saying that. 🙂

          And you can bet your Boots-in-the-Water that I am going to bookmark that link on my personal laptop and research the HECK out of it! Thank you! But for now,…this paragraph caught my eye:

          “Words have energy and vibrate at different frequencies. I envisage each of the 88 modern constellations having its own specific key note, as on the modern piano there are 88 keys. If certainty could be achieved in allocating the correct words to the constellations we would recognize the harmony and have no doubts.”

          No wonder Steven Spielberg put this scene in this movie:

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Kgzn3tDQU

          And no wonder water molecules are altered when we speak words to them:

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1-0ulKgmio

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          • Such a beautiful picture of how important our words and tone are. Thank you for sharing that amazing video. Have you taken over for VGboss? He consistantly portrayed a beautiful and positive outlook.

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          • anna – Thank you for saying that. I do always try to convey ideas in my posts that are positive and fun (even though Jenny sometimes doesn’t think so!). But now I am sad. Because I miss vgboss. 🙁

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    • The circumpunct resembles Forrest’s beautiful bison hide hung on his den wall (with the sunburst design). Sunbursts are an old Spanish treasure symbol, also resembling ancient NA medicine wheels, a radar screen, warm water going down the drain, and a bullseye!

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  35. E*:
    Deb – No,…I don’t really think that’s true. I think they all just have a particular aversion to ME, though!

    ***************************
    E* I think you are terrific and I don’t mind that you are prolific! Thank you for always-entertaining, educational material that does tie in to TTOTC if people think. I’m also grateful to Mike for a truly open forum and website that works once again.

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  36. Everyone – Jenny put this post into moderation,…because it was posted by ME I am sure (and because that thread is getting really long):

    mysteriouswritings.com/featured-question-with-forrest-capitalization-rules/#comment-98883

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Halogetter – When I got back from having lunch at “The Restaurant at the End of the Universe”,…on one of my “far flung ventures”,…I remembered that a searcher at Dals’ mentioned something about mirrored locations he had found,…above and below the Equator,…that pertain to The Chase. Which made me think of the 42.2 seconds it takes for the Gravity train to get from one location to the other,…through the center of the Earth:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_elevator

    “In the 17th century, British scientist Robert Hooke presented the idea of an object accelerating inside a planet in a letter to Isaac Newton. A gravity train project was seriously presented to the Paris Academy of Sciences in the 19th century. The same idea was proposed, without calculation, by Lewis Carroll in 1893 in Sylvie and Bruno Concluded.”

    Which made me think of the mirrored location I found for my spot,…using a REAL globe at the library,…which corresponded to a point on Wilkes’s pathway,…Southwest of Austrailia,…which he followed to discover Antartica:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Exploring_Expedition

    Which made me think of the first line in The Poem:

    “As I have gone alone in there”

    Which made me think of Rear Admiral Richard E. Bird Jr.,…and his discovery in a plane of the North and South poles,…as well as HIS Antarctic expeditions,…and the book he wrote,…called “Alone”:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_E._Byrd

    And then I thought of the related Hollow Earth theory (mentioned in that link):

    “Some adherents to the Hollow Earth hypothesis believe that Byrd flew over the North Pole and into the hollow earth in February 1947 and that he kept a secret diary of the incident. This belief was first published in 1957 in F. Amadeo Giannini’s book The Worlds Beyond the Poles. Giannini writes that Byrd encountered a humanoid being from another “world” who warned humanity to pursue peace and not war. He also reported that Byrd spotted a living wooly mammoth near the North Pole.”

    It’s ALL about The Chase, IMO.

    Maybe later we can discuss the awesome photo I took of a cliff face yesterday,…next to the river,…around the corner from my Gypsy Wagon Found Object location (not posted on Dal’s contest page),…which contained a blaze-ing Double Rainbow (when I came back to enlarge it on the computer)? What was the number of degrees,…for the viewing angle,…to the red color,…at the top of a rainbow arch again?:

    askabiologist.asu.edu/sites/default/files/resources/articles/seecolor/rainbow42degree.jpg

    E*
    April 28, 2015 at 10:21 amReply

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    • Everyone – Questioning why Jenny moderated my post:

      Jenny – Oh,…you DO have a Mission Statement,…on your Welcome Page,…and I think my comments directed to you agree with it. I am still not sure why you moderated my last comment,…which fits into your purpose for this website perfectly:
      ..
      Welcome to Mysterious Writings!
      “If there wasn’t anything to find out, it would be dull. Even trying to find out and not finding out is just as interesting as trying to find out and finding out; and I don’t know but more so.” ~ Samuel Clemens/Mark Twain

      The above quote encapsulates the purpose of this website. It is a quest into differing topics, matters, and treasures. Destinations are not always known, nor always found. However, the exploration is always enjoyed. Feel free to comment, share ideas, or offer insights on the various subjects covered.

      The site includes thoughts and perspectives on the treasure hunt of The Thrill of the Chase, Fandango, The Beale Papers, Unicornis, the continuous quest for the Holy Grail of the Maranatha puzzle, and more. The Maranatha puzzle is what inspired my own serious search beyond the ordinary. It was the basis for creating this site, and instigator for Six Questions. For this reason, the site incorporates, and continues to discuss, material offered during the puzzle. Consisting of an array of unique subject matter, the puzzle encouraged a quest for wisdom and understanding. I’m not sure that ever stops.

      Additionally, since I love all searches and find pleasure in other ‘mysteries’, I, and others, comment on these here too.

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        • Everyone – I tried to respond to Astree’s post,…just now,…twice,…about the Bitfrost link she posted,…which tied in nicely to my comment about the red color of the rainbow above. So I copied the text before posting,…just in case it disappeared like the one before it did. I think Jenny just figured out that I copy and paste those she puts into moderation here,…and she is trying to prevent that,…by not having my posts show up AT ALL over there. No problema:

          mysteriouswritings.com/featured-question-with-forrest-capitalization-rules/#comment-98975

          Astree – And speaking of that red color of the rainbow,…and the viewing angle in degrees I mentioned,…I found this in that link you provided,…which may refer to the blaze,…in The Poem:

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Thor_wades_while_the_%C3%A6sir_ride_by_Fr%C3%B8lich.jpg

          In chapter 15 of Gylfaginning, Just-As-High says that Bifröst is also called Asbrú, and that every day the gods ride their horses across it (with the exception of Thor, who instead wades through the boiling waters of the rivers Körmt and Örmt) to reach Urðarbrunnr, a holy well where the gods have their court. As a reference, Just-As-High quotes the second of the two stanzas in Grímnismál that mention the bridge (see above). Gangleri asks if fire burns over Bifröst. High says that the red in the bridge is burning fire, and, without it, the frost jotnar and mountain jotnar would “go up into heaven” if anyone who wanted could cross Bifröst. High adds that, in heaven, “there are many beautiful places” and that “everywhere there has divine protection around it.”

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      • E- i think Jenny and Dal is in cahoots. they keep all the good stuff for themselves. must be some sort of “alliance” like on that show Survivor. but guess what? in the end they’ll roll allover each other and someone else will win. you watch.

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        • Bob – Too weird! I was just thinking last night that I should propose that “Survivor” game idea,…over at Jenny’s and Dal’s,…to see who other searchers would vote off the Blog Island,…if they could. I don’t think it would be The Wolf,…or 49 dollers,…or ME! I kinda know who it WOULD be, though (not YOU, Bob!).
          Maybe a few of those that post CONSTANTLY,…who say NOTHING,…or maybe one certain CLUE VAMPIRE? 😉

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          • oh contrare Eierre! remember how survivor is played… those who pose a serious threat are eliminated first. i want to be kicked off first. hey wait!, i was banned from dals a long time ago. maybe i am a threat. or just obnoxius? (cant wait to see jenny running around half-naked!)

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          • Bob – Oh,…right! I forgot that part. That explains a lot. All that banning of me everywhere is good strategy on the part of Dal, Goofy and Jenny. Except,…they don’t know I have this Immunity Idol Necklace,…which will also scare away the Grizz,…so he will try to eat ALL those OTHER searchers,…who I have carefully guided out to the area surrounding my spot (Muahahahaha!):

            www.thatangela.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/grant_r_SurvivorImmunityIdol_576.jpg

            And I can still hike naked,…which I plan to do (except for that Immunity Necklace). And my backpack,…to carry back the loot.

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          • E* So you found the hidden immunity idol. Cool… I think you should take a cooler with wheels rather than a backpack it won’t interfere with your tan lines… 🙂

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          • spallies – On second thought,…after reading your suggestion,…why don’t I just have Bart the Bear II carry back the Bronze Chest and the loot? I don’t think anyone will bother him to steal it. And he ALWAYS hikes naked, btw. 🙂

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          • Bob – I think Forrest must have been reading over here,…and saw that I was planning to hike naked,…because I just saw this posted by Goofy:

            dalneitzel.com/2015/04/28/the-nine-clues-22/#comment-86489

            Goofy_Old_Guy on May 2, 2015 at 7:32 am said:
            Sorry if this has already been mentioned. Fenn (or whoever runs his facebook page) posted this:

            April 28 at 9:35pm •

            Update from Forrest: “The treasure is still there and with school almost out a lot of people will be searching. Please dress warm and be safe”

            The link to his facebook page is at the bottom of the this page.

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        • Ah guys, dont start that stuff please? I dont agree that they are playing favorites or picking out the best stuff for themselves. I dont think Forrest would stand for that. If he gave them something to be presented to us all and they didnt do it, then he would walk away from their involvement.

          Thats all just my opinion, as is everything posted on any blog.

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          • Deb – No,…I don’t really think that’s true. I think they all just have a particular aversion to ME, though! 😉

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          • deb- dont worry, E is too smart to allow the final steps to the treasure to be revealed before she can get to it. she’s just gettin em close. also, Forrest cannot step in at any time to stop them. to do so would give away a location. i just like pickin on Dal. lol

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    • Uh maybe you strayed too far into possibilities for Jenny? Hollow earth? I guess that would be from the era that Mark Twain was in.

      I wouldnt worry about why something doesnt get posted. If all they want is the A+B=C formula, then they may miss something extraordinary.

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      • Deb – Yeah,…like how Dal and Goofy and Jenny are going to miss The Chase Victory Party,…which will certainly be “something extraordinary”,…if they all continue to delete/moderate my posts. 😉

        And why they are missing it,…will be meticulously documented,…for my ready reference,…for the book/movie script,…here on ttotc.com,…thanks to our generous and very astute host, Mike. Thank you, Mike. 🙂

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  37. The Wolf – I think it was on this thread that we were discussing keystones,…in relation to “the word that is key”,…and symbols (for anna):

    From Conversations with Crowdog,…over on Forrest’s blog:

    E* says: 12:14 pm on June 11, 2014CROWDOG – From Pam’s blog solution:

    “Keystone” was King Solomon’s word for the wise.

    So,…then I found this link:

    symboldictionary.net/?p=2515

    Do you think this has anything to do with “the word that is key”?

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    • The Wolf – I found the one about the Brown-ies, too. FYI that the poet William Browne (who I mentioned to Astree,…over at Jenny’s,…for his famous cross-shaped acrostic poem) lived in Ottery St. Mary = home of Brown(e):

      E* says: 1:36 pm on June 11, 2014CROWDOG – OK,…I’ll hunt down that number 153. But you should look at Matthew 6:21 CEV (speaking of those numbers you used,…for the Corinthians reference).

      And in thinking of bonfires,…and those that were used to celebrate Summer Solstice,…or the pagan Midsummers Eve,…I was led to the Guy Fawkes celebrations in Devon, England,…and those Barrels of Tar they use in Ottery St. Mary:

      www.otterytarbarrels.co.uk/photographs/2006/images/women9.jpg

      And then I found a legend of Little People there:

      Pixie Day is an old tradition which takes place annually in June. The day commemorates a legend of pixies being banished from the town to local caves known as the ‘Pixie’s Parlour’.

      The Pixie Day legend originates from the early days of Christianity, when a local bishop decided to build a church in Otteri (Ottery St. Mary), and commissioned a set of bells to come from Wales, and to be escorted by monks on their journey.

      On hearing of this, the pixies were worried, as they knew that once the bells were installed it would be the death knell of their rule over the land. So they cast a spell over the monks to redirect them from the road to Otteri to the road leading them to the cliff’s edge at Sidmouth. Just as the monks were about to fall over the cliff, one of the monks stubbed his toe on a rock and said “God bless my soul” and the spell was broken.

      The bells were then brought to Otteri and installed. However, the pixies’ spell was not completely broken; each year on a day in June the ‘pixies’ come out and capture the town’s bell ringers and imprison them in Pixies’ Parlour to be rescued by the Vicar of Ottery St. Mary. This legend is re-enacted each year by the Cub and Brownie groups of Ottery St. Mary, with a specially constructed Pixie’s Parlour in the Town Square (the original Pixie’s Parlour can be found along the banks of the River Otter).

      Sounds like the home of Brown-ies to me!

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  38. The Wolf:
    Just to be clear, the anniversary date is when FF posted the data hinting to the significance of the event.

    I think i know what you mean if its a Feb. date , 🙂

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  39. The Wolf:
    49 Dollers,
    One datapoint can never prove anything, however I have been collecting them over time.I have now identified several others – Dal, Diggin Gypsy, Stephanie, you and Iron Will and a few others all as data points that support my solution.I didn’t notice it a first but one I recognized the pattern I was able to be alert to them.It becomes much more predictable when the pattern has been identified.For example, I identified the solution endpoint location and noticed the areahas a significant event tied to it. I thought I might be biased so to tested my theory (based on FF patterns) and I predicted theprecise date and content of the data release by Mr. Fenn and waited.To my surprise he not only hit the exact date butanalogously described the event in great detail. Still sound crazy?

    Not at all crazy, as i also predicted a time span between scrapbooks and the content . Hmmmm. Not sure if that’s exactly what you are referring to but if it is then maybe were both crazy. 🙂

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    • Time spans are a good thing, but to predict a precise single date of a signifiant historical event that just happened to have occurred at a clue directed ground zero that one knew nothing about until they followed the clues, was certainly an attention getter. I would be interested in anyone’s opinion as to whether that fits the description of “required confidence”

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  40. E*:
    49 dollers – WOW! What a great find! Thank you. You are so good at research.

    Thanks E* but i don’t think i can compete with your research efforts.

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  41. deb:
    Anna , I definitely am a different person. I enjoy lifeso much more. I try to remember to thank Forrest for waking me up. If I forget he can always invite me to jump in a cold pond.LOL

    amen deb! Thanks Forrest for waking up the butterfly in me. I’ve been sleeping through life far too long. Speaking of butterflies, what do you make of the word/visual references in ttotc? hints or forrest enjoys their gentle beauty? Perhaps memories…of his young daughters fluttering carefree as only children can, in the sunshine.

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    • anna – I know you were addressing Deb,…but I know also that you like to think about the etymology of words,…so I found this for you:

      Some claim that the butterfly had originally been named as flutterby or even that Shakespeare was responsible for changing the name. The truth is that the word butterfly really means butter-fly: a fly (or flying animal) that was supposed to like butter or whose excrements resemble butter. The link with dairy products is not only evident in English: the German name “Schmetterling” is derived from “Schmetten”, the word for “cream” in some German dialects.

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      • Anna I believe Forrest has used many different avenues to carry meaning .Time will tell if I am.right about that.
        When I was a child I always called them flutterbyes,that’s just how my mind perceived the word.

        E is correct,my take on words that Forrest used are tied to their etymology and how their meaning has changed over time. I probably drove Forrest nuts with my ideas.LOL

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      • Ah, E* its most kind of you to remember how I like word etymologies. (usually we’re one-upping grizz or medicine wheels 🙂 Schmetterling/anna connection! smiles.

        I love f’s interpretation of flutterbye. After searching last fall, I added a butterfly to my charm bracelet to remember to breath the wild air and flutter in the breeze. Thanks for always being playful and kind – those are admirable qualities.

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  42. I agree Wolf i tried posting over at Dals and my post was deleted and it wasn’t even derogatory , all i said was ” its seems many people are bloviating on the blog lately”. everybody wants to talk about Uncle Joe’s bum leg.
    And yes i have looked into the Girl Scout connection also thinking Brownies , but after doing a complete research on the history of the Girl Scouts, i couldn’t make a solid connection,that i was comfortable with. Girl Scouts are mentioned in TFTW and i have looked into one spot that. i will leave it at that. Denver is the home of Brown Clouds, inversion layers. As far as Capitalization ,i guess Meek comes back into play? and brown trout can also play ?

    The Wolf:
    Much discussion on why the home of Brown is capitalized.I said at hoD that I have moved from the traditional means of looking at this (Brown Trout, bat,bear,etc) and I am still open to formal last name “Brown” but one thing to consider is maybe it is capitalized because there are two different meanings to brown and the one we should use is the capitalized version.

    Mr Fenn has made about 7 references to brown in TTOTC. One that stuck out in my mind – “…beautiful old iron, slide-down for escape was just outside that window.” and “that rusty old iron thing marked the tail of my britches pretty good with a heavy brown color.”I believe Mr. Fenn used “marked the tail of my britches” in stead of the natural words “stain”.Why is this important?Because it sounds like “stane”; for those that understand FF’s hints to “listen” good, this logic has some merit, especially when one considers his many references to time or Time Magazine. When Forrest said on Jenny’s Q&A “There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure.f”Some have noted “proximaty” is spelled wrong.Of course that is an aberration and the part that was change to a misspelling is “mity” which had me wondering what does either “maty” or “mity” have to do with a hint?I did some research on the Secret Life of Walter Mitty and besides the use of “secret” there are a couple of interesting facts.There are some suspicious quotes like “It’s not what they say on the blogs that may be significant, it’s what they whisper.” which is another aberration derived from Errol Flynn’s quote, “It isn’t what they say about you, it’s what they whisper.”That Errol Flynn seems to be linked back the Walter Mitty again. [BTW google Errol Flynn images ;-)]

    So where and I going with all this? Life magazine is very similar to Time Maganzine but it has a logo of the Brownie.The Brownie’s habitat is the home.A Brownie is a mythical creature best described by John Brandt in his description of Shetland:

    “Not above forty or fifty years ago, every family had a brownie, or evil spirit, so called, which served them, to which they gave a sacrifice for his service; as when they churned their milk, they took a part thereof, and sprinkled every corner of the house with it, for Brownie’s use; likewise, when they brewed, they had a stone which they called ‘Brownie’s stane’, wherein there was a little hole into which they poured some wort for a sacrifice to Brownie…”

    The Fenn reference to wort and Brownie’s stane brings life to the clue “home of Brown”.One has to keep in mind the poem will be solved with imagination and third order hinting.Subtle hinting requires disguise and linking many subtles together: the first vague hint in the description of Brownie is the word “sprinkled” which is used by Fenn to describe his clues “are sprinkled within the stories.”That is actually a big hint since I do not know of any macho Fight jocks that intentionally use the word “sprinkle.” The wort sounds like wart (“hear me now and listen”) which may be hinted by all his frog references and pictures in his book and scrapbook.His most notable “I will give you a hint the treasure is not in the frog jar.”Warts are synonymously related to the myth that frogs give you warts.Anyone of these hints in isolation is subtly insignificant but in combination these aberrations form a powerful suggestion that Brownie is the home of Brown.The capitalization of the poem’s “Brown” is simply explained by the fact that there is a cookie/cake called a brownie and it is not capitalized. The Brownie is also a category of Girl Scouts in grades two to three (ages 7-8).Suspiciously around the same “time” Mr. Fenn did his best “thinking” – “I would wake 0700 every morning and do nothing but think in bed until 0800.”f). Now that makes a lot of sense as to why he said “All you have to do is think about the nine clues and follow them in order” Forrest has two daughters so Girl Scouts would be closer to Fenn’s heart than boy Scouts of which many a searcher have focused on. Maybe that is why “she” will be happy when she sees the treasure.

    This line of thinking of home of Brownie was used in my Finding Fenn story/solution to back my hoB.

    [ I tried posting this over at hoD, but Goofy has been deleting all my good posts and appears to be keeping them for himself – someone might want to directthe hoD folks over here]

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    • 49 dollars,
      Goofy’s antenna doesn’t pick up all the channels. I tried to start a conversation how I though “worth the cold” was Canada (had a really interesting solution using that) but he deleted it because he thought we were off topic, I try to keep on topic and he should have known better.

      Anyway, it is good to see you have noted girl scouts too, it is a large search area and someday you may connect it. As I started to say at hoD, I am now moving away from brown trout, since it is acceptable to use without a capital letter B. Just a hunch.

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      • Wolf i noticed you asked for one word to describe Canada, well my word would be “Peaceful”
        There is one connection to Girl Scouts i like but a bird might be listening .

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      • The Wolf and 49 dollers – I wouldn’t discount that Brown trout,…because to Forrest,…that might be yet another Brown with a Capital “B”!:

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Z_G1skm6A

        That video was shot in that nice tailwater section,…next to a notoriously deep hole,…on the Madison River,…below Hebgen Dam,…and “between the Lakes”.

        And then there is the ORIGINAL “home of Brown”,…where the German Brown trout were stocked,…back in the late 1800’s,…just above Firehole Falls in YNP.

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      • 49 dollars,
        Do you remember when FF replied to your email and he referred to you as just 49? This is another aberration that could signal Canada (or perhaps dollar – my follow the money theory). Of course we know it can’t be in Canada because he admitted it, but he also said their was a major clue in tftw that he was unaware of and that turned out to be the absence of Canada. I have a very interesting theory that is controversial but after gathering data it has considerable merit. Mr. Fenn is subtly using posters names or characteristics to hint the clues as one of many methods. Think of Fenn dedicating his entire life over the past 20 years to this cause. Does it make sense to only provide one source of clues/hints for eternity? Imagine yourself in his shoes and participating in this life encompassing puzzle. Could you have the strict discipline to not provide further hints? IF not how can you participate and place hints such that no one would ever suspect? Yet when the treasure is discovered, everyone slaps themselves in the face when they realize Mr. Fenn was constantly hinting in such a blatant manner but no one noticed.

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        • Wolf what happened is i signed my name on that email “49 Dollers” with an “e, Forrest changed it to “49 Dollars” with an “a” i don’t think it was intentional but he also mentioned “expensive folly” as perhaps a pun on my screen name.
          I think most of his hints are as vague as the poem but i believe right before his absence of regular scrapbook entries he was starting to get caught up in giving hints and he realized it and has since backed away from them, so in answer to your theory of money hints yes i believe you could be on to something.

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          • 49 Dollers,
            One datapoint can never prove anything, however I have been collecting them over time. I have now identified several others – Dal, Diggin Gypsy, Stephanie, you and Iron Will and a few others all as data points that support my solution. I didn’t notice it a first but one I recognized the pattern I was able to be alert to them. It becomes much more predictable when the pattern has been identified. For example, I identified the solution endpoint location and noticed the area has a significant event tied to it. I thought I might be biased so to tested my theory (based on FF patterns) and I predicted the precise date and content of the data release by Mr. Fenn and waited. To my surprise he not only hit the exact date but analogously described the event in great detail. Still sound crazy?

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          • 49 dollers – Didn’t Forrest end his comment with:

            “..to me that’s just expensive folly.”

            OK,…what exactly does he MEAN by that? Does he want us to use an alternate meaning of ‘expensive folly’ and apply it? See: number 2. below:

            fol·ly
            ?fäl?/
            noun
            noun: folly; plural noun: Follies

            1.
            lack of good sense; foolishness.
            “an act of sheer folly”
            a foolish act, idea, or practice.
            plural noun: follies
            “the follies of youth”
            synonyms: foolishness, foolhardiness, stupidity, idiocy, lunacy, madness, rashness, recklessness, imprudence, injudiciousness, irresponsibility, thoughtlessness, indiscretion;
            informalcraziness
            “the folly of youth”
            antonyms: wisdom
            2.
            a costly ornamental building with no practical purpose, especially a tower or mock-Gothic ruin built in a large garden or park.
            3.
            a theatrical revue, typically with glamorous female performers.
            “the Ziegfeld Follies”

            For example,…See: photos 13 & 14 of the Crystal Grotto (that was for you, The Wolf):

            news.bbc.co.uk/local/surrey/hi/things_to_do/newsid_8605000/8605016.stm

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          • 49 dollers – And Mother Nature sometimes creates the architecture of ‘expensive folly’ as well:

            mms.nps.gov/yell/features/mammothtour/opalterr.htm

            The Wolf – I think he’s trying to give us all a hint,…in his response,…on where to “Begin it”,…and to what is the first clue in The Poem. But because of the HUGE amount of travertine generated,…this could ALSO be the “home of Brown”,…in addition to WWWH (the deposits left there by the warm waters). Dal’s Madison/Firehole/Gibbon Rivers confluence,…or this location,…still both work for my solve,…as I mentioned in my posts over at Jenny’s.

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          • The Wolf and 49 dollers – Think: 1,000 years from now,…if the Bronze Chest has not been found by us (yeah, right!).

            And meet Jeff Brown and family. He runs that Yellowstone Institute,…that has a lot of their instructional activities out at the old home of Ranger Gary Brown in the Lamar Valley (ie. Wolf Studies). These folks live right in the pathway of Mother Nature’s ‘expensive folly’,…in their “home of Brown”:

            www.travelandleisure.com/articles/visit-our-park

            The family lives in a small house in Mammoth Hot Springs, the “town” on the north side of Yellowstone that serves as the park’s headquarters. Visitors know this area for the series of limestone terraces formed by a constant trickle of calcium-rich, steamy water. Two tons of travertine are deposited here daily, so the terraces are constantly shifting and expanding.

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          • Yes E* he did end end it “..to me that’s just expensive folly.” could he be saying the poem can be solved from home before you go search for it and spend more then 49 dollars, one of Forrest goals in this endeavor is to get kids off the couch and into nature and away from their handheld devices, but i think some have stepped the boundaries of gold fever and he is saying don’t spend your families food money on a hunch. or we can go go with your ideas they seem more fun 🙂

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          • 49 dollers – I say the ideas of the Brown Kids,…in that link I provided,…are the MOST fun,…and should be used as a guide for kids and families to head to Yellowstone,…whether they think the Bronze Chest is there or not. All that glitters isn’t GOLD (or something like that!). 🙂

            And if you know where to “Begin it…”,…then it is NOT ‘expensive folly’,…per Forrest. See: YNP (IMO).

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          • E*- i agree. the opening line of the poem is the first clue. “as i have gone alone in there and with my treasures bold.” of course it has several meanings but its a start. so dont bother looking for the chest anywhere forrest hasn’t been. hope i didn’t give away too much here. (im greedy)

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    • 49 dollers – And you wrote:

      “…all i said was ” its seems many people are bloviating on the blog lately”. everybody wants to talk about Uncle Joe’s bum leg.”

      Was that a nod to The Wolf’s alluding to his VERY IMPORTANT “300 miles West of Toledo” solve (and that cork he needs to take out soon)?:

      Bloviation is a style of empty, pompous political speech particularly associated with Ohio due to the term’s popularization by United States President Warren G. Harding, who described it as “the art of speaking for as long as the occasion warrants, and saying nothing”.[1] The verb “to bloviate” is the act of creating bloviation. In terms of its etymology, according to one source, the word is a “compound of blow, in its sense of ‘to boast’ (also in another typical Americanism, blowhard), with a mock-Latin ending to give it the self-important stature that is implicit in its meaning.”.

      Or,…were “You talkin’ to me?”:

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QWL-FwX4t4

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  43. Much discussion on why the home of Brown is capitalized. I said at hoD that I have moved from the traditional means of looking at this (Brown Trout, bat,bear,etc) and I am still open to formal last name “Brown” but one thing to consider is maybe it is capitalized because there are two different meanings to brown and the one we should use is the capitalized version.

    Mr Fenn has made about 7 references to brown in TTOTC. One that stuck out in my mind – “…beautiful old iron, slide-down for escape was just outside that window.” and “that rusty old iron thing marked the tail of my britches pretty good with a heavy brown color.” I believe Mr. Fenn used “marked the tail of my britches” in stead of the natural words “stain”. Why is this important? Because it sounds like “stane”; for those that understand FF’s hints to “listen” good, this logic has some merit, especially when one considers his many references to time or Time Magazine. When Forrest said on Jenny’s Q&A “There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure.f” Some have noted “proximaty” is spelled wrong. Of course that is an aberration and the part that was change to a misspelling is “mity” which had me wondering what does either “maty” or “mity” have to do with a hint? I did some research on the Secret Life of Walter Mitty and besides the use of “secret” there are a couple of interesting facts. There are some suspicious quotes like “It’s not what they say on the blogs that may be significant, it’s what they whisper.” which is another aberration derived from Errol Flynn’s quote, “It isn’t what they say about you, it’s what they whisper.” That Errol Flynn seems to be linked back the Walter Mitty again. [BTW google Errol Flynn images ;-)]

    So where and I going with all this? Life magazine is very similar to Time Maganzine but it has a logo of the Brownie. The Brownie’s habitat is the home. A Brownie is a mythical creature best described by John Brandt in his description of Shetland:

    “Not above forty or fifty years ago, every family had a brownie, or evil spirit, so called, which served them, to which they gave a sacrifice for his service; as when they churned their milk, they took a part thereof, and sprinkled every corner of the house with it, for Brownie’s use; likewise, when they brewed, they had a stone which they called ‘Brownie’s stane’, wherein there was a little hole into which they poured some wort for a sacrifice to Brownie…”

    The Fenn reference to wort and Brownie’s stane brings life to the clue “home of Brown”. One has to keep in mind the poem will be solved with imagination and third order hinting. Subtle hinting requires disguise and linking many subtles together: the first vague hint in the description of Brownie is the word “sprinkled” which is used by Fenn to describe his clues “are sprinkled within the stories.” That is actually a big hint since I do not know of any macho Fight jocks that intentionally use the word “sprinkle.” The wort sounds like wart (“hear me now and listen”) which may be hinted by all his frog references and pictures in his book and scrapbook. His most notable “I will give you a hint the treasure is not in the frog jar.” Warts are synonymously related to the myth that frogs give you warts. Anyone of these hints in isolation is subtly insignificant but in combination these aberrations form a powerful suggestion that Brownie is the home of Brown. The capitalization of the poem’s “Brown” is simply explained by the fact that there is a cookie/cake called a brownie and it is not capitalized. The Brownie is also a category of Girl Scouts in grades two to three (ages 7-8). Suspiciously around the same “time” Mr. Fenn did his best “thinking” – “I would wake 0700 every morning and do nothing but think in bed until 0800.”f). Now that makes a lot of sense as to why he said “All you have to do is think about the nine clues and follow them in order” Forrest has two daughters so Girl Scouts would be closer to Fenn’s heart than boy Scouts of which many a searcher have focused on. Maybe that is why “she” will be happy when she sees the treasure.

    This line of thinking of home of Brownie was used in my Finding Fenn story/solution to back my hoB.

    [ I tried posting this over at hoD, but Goofy has been deleting all my good posts and appears to be keeping them for himself – someone might want to direct the hoD folks over here]

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    • The Wolf – Wow! Just Wow. Crowdog and I discussed those Brownies,…over at Forrest’s blog also, btw. And we discussed that Brownie CAMERA,…that he used to take those PHOTOS (one on the cover of TTOTC book),…where the trails 88 and Red-Black-Green meet,…on Forrest’s and Donnie’s “Looking for Lewis and Clark” journey.

      Again,…just WOW. And don’t throw PEARLS before SWINE,…over at Dal’s,…just know that we will read you here,…all of us A-Team searchers. Thank you. 🙂

      p.s. There are some very interesting Little People,…hidden in caves,…up in the Pryor Mountains in Wyoming also. It was nice to chat with Crowdog for so long,…without being interrupted by you-know-who! 😉

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    • The Wolf – You wrote:

      His most notable “I will give you a hint the treasure is not in the frog jar.”

      In one of my funny stories I sent to Forrest,…about me going to all the places I thought he might have hidden the bronze jars and bells,…I suggested that the KEY to the Bronze Chest needed to be found when we “Begin it where warm waters halt”,…at Ojo Caliente,…where he used to bathe,…and that I would also hopefully find biodegradeable soap in that Frog Jar,…since I would probably be camping out in my car (to avoid the Grizzes!). Maybe that is why he gave me the name, “Diggin Gypsy”,…when I texted my Shadow Photo? 😉

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    • The Wolf – And I was planning to look for a certain sized flatish stone,…that I think I saw in one of vgboss’s fine depictions,…of Forrest sitting Indian style,…in front of a wall,…at his San Lazaro Pueblo,…but now I will be looking to see if that “Brownie’s stane” has a HOLE on top:

      “..likewise, when they brewed, they had a stone which they called ‘Brownie’s stane’, wherein there was a little hole into which they poured some wort for a sacrifice to Brownie…”

      Thanks! 🙂

      And I’ll make sure to bring the Dos Equixx, anna. Don’t you worry! Brownies like that, I’m sure.

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    • The Wolf – You wrote:

      “When Forrest said on Jenny’s Q&A “There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure.f” Some have noted “proximaty” is spelled wrong. Of course that is an aberration and the part that was change to a misspelling is “mity” which had me wondering what does either “maty” or “mity” have to do with a hint?”

      I’ll bet many serachers don’t realize that you CAN have your cake and eat it, too. You can play on The Chase blogs AND be out there in Nature:

      filmfisher.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/secret_life_of_walter_mitty_ver4_xlg.jpg

      And I split that word, ‘proximaty’,…like I enjoy doing,…with Astree,…on Google Translate,…and considered this meaning:

      ‘proxi maty’ – Two mateys on a pirate ship have to share one bunk, usually. One works while the other rests or sleeps. Unless one happens to climb in with the other. That works,…except the ‘e’ is missing. Like when Dal and Goofy ban me from Dal’s blog for no good reason. And Forrest often likes to forget the ‘e’. Like when he wrote, “Who are you?”,…when I texted him a funny photo recently. I think he remembers the E* now. 🙂

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  44. E*:
    JC1117 – And Robert Redford is thankful to Bart the Bear II,…for helping to cure him of his Bear Phobia (Bear Claws = Bear Clause = No More!):

    hub.contactmusic.com/news-article/redford-conquers-bear-fear

    I wonder if Mr. Redford was able to learn a few Yoga moves, also,…while on the set???

    Nope, A bit too manly for yoga moves. Baseball or Tennis – and how about the white shirt and tan? Hey E* I wonder if Forrest plays tennis with Redford?

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    • Great observations, Lia…and Robert…and Forrest. When everything “just flows”…hmmm…I’m sure that explains why the most nostalgic moments in our lives…the moments we look back to with fondness (in Portuguese “saudade”)…are the simple moments…which almost always are associated with love and contentment. That doesn’t mean that everything in life was flowing perfectly…only that in that moment…almost frozen in time…it was.

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YG4h5GbTqU

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  45. deb:
    I am sold on NM.

    Eventually we may leave and search other places.

    We have been searching for over three years. When I say we , I mean my husband searches.
    My mobility isnt good, eventually I will get new knees but have an ankle that is beyond repair.
    Art is a good sport about it, he is a good man.

    Good luck to you on your searches. Take lots of pics and bring home little treasures from all your searches.

    Deb, sorry about your knees. You are blessed to have your husband as a searching partner. You can be the brains, he can be the feet and eyes 🙂

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  46. E*:
    Lia – Just in case you want to go against Forrest’s wishes,…and “stay” right in GNF,…and NOT 20 miles away:

    www.outsidebozeman.com/sites/default/files/Maps/GNF%20Campgrounds%20Cabins2%202010.jpg

    E* I’d have no problem joining F on his red, green and black Pendleton picnic blanket… I follow his rule of getting as close as possible and letting tires hit the curbs 😉

    Looks like a great camping area. thanks. Someday Id sure like to visit there. I heard Casey let Brutus out to roam and he frightened tourists. Poor Brutus, he was just being friendly, trying to high five the folks.
    Can Bart II do high fives? www.gossiprocks.com/forum/pets-animals/103002-meet-brutus-800lb-grizzly-bear-who-likes-eat-his-meals-dinner-table.html

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        • Hello Lia and E*. I’m pretty sure I met Doug Seus around 1988. As some of you may know, Doug Seus is the trainer of Bart the Bear and Bart 2.

          I attended a rather small scouting event which had a mountain man rendezvous theme. We shot black powder rifles…and cannons…shhh, don’t tell anyone. I’m sure nobody heard us. We camped off the main road near the top of the Alpine Loop above Sundance.

          There was a rather large “real” mountain man who showed up and visited with us for a while. He brought with him a cardboard box that had about 5 baby skunks in it. I don’t recall the exact number of baby skunks just like I don’t recall if that was, in fact, Doug Seus…but it likely was because Doug lives just up the road from there in Heber, Utah…and who else raises wild animals just for fun?

          There’s one way to determine…without a doubt…if that was Doug or not…assuming anyone ever asks him…because there was something VERY special about those baby skunks. I’m not making any of this up, by the way. The baby skunks in that box were WHITE with BLACK STRIPES. The mountain man who brought them said he bred them that way and they were the only skunks like it on earth. So, if Doug ever had some baby skunks with those features in the mid to late 80s then I probably shook his hand…his very skunky hand. 🙂

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        • lia –

          I don’t know about Bart the bear wearing a tutu – but one of these days you ought to ask Mike (the owner of this blog) about his tutu. 🙂

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    • Deb, I see you on the blogs and it looks like you are a seasoned friend and contributor to many. I just wanted to say hello 🙂
      (I’ve been lurking a few months)
      Nice to see your sming face!

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      • Hi Lia, yes I have been around a long time. How long have you been involved?

        This blog has lots of really good discussions in the archives. I suggest reading those. This blog is a bunch of lets say different type people who think outside the box.

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        • Thanks Deb, I sure enjoy interacting with the few people I’ve connected with here. I learned about Mr. Fenn’s treasure last Spring and started my research at that time. I’ve searched inside YNP on behalf of a guy who didnt have the money to travel. He went too early in the spring and stream velocity was too high to look behind a waterfall. My son and I drove to YP to spend a day searching his area and the guy never even said thanks. As for me, I have solves for Wy and Mt but they need work before searching again,

          How about you Deb? What state do you search and how long have you been chasing the treasure?

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          • I am sold on NM.

            Eventually we may leave and search other places.

            We have been searching for over three years. When I say we , I mean my husband searches.
            My mobility isnt good, eventually I will get new knees but have an ankle that is beyond repair.
            Art is a good sport about it, he is a good man. 🙂

            Good luck to you on your searches. Take lots of pics and bring home little treasures from all your searches. 🙂

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  47. I was bored today so I kicked around the idea of the home of Brown being the governorship of California. (Lol) yeah, well you know Jerry is serving now I think a fourth term? And his father was gov. When 1950’s? Idk but Browns have occupied that seat for many years. So, I casually googled the mansion in Sacramento and found that the last governor to actually occupy the mansion was Ronald Regan. Seems I recall FF stating something about Ronald Regan at the Dude, his mansion in west yellowstone? Can’t recall exactly, but anyway, even though Brown Sr. And Brown Jr. May not have stayed at that mansion, we could still say that the governorship of California could be construed as the home of Brown.
    Now, not the political position of course it must be the actual home. The mansion in Sacramento. So I googled again and found that this mansion was built by…(are you sitting down?) Albert Gallatin!
    Actually not the Albert Gallatin the national forest was named after but a different guy. Still, HOB is possibly the Gallatin National Forest.

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      • That’s a great stamp, Bob. Thanks for posting it. A mostly-bald guy once told me that all men have an equal amount of testosterone…and if a man chooses to grow hair with his portion that’s HIS problem.

        Personally, I just think he was really self-conscious about his baldness…so I told him that. 🙂 Just kidding. I’m not a party pooper…even if he was attacking my masculinity…and my full-flowing locks… in a back-handed way. I think he was just jealous. 🙂

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYe1-Wg_MI

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        • Wahoo – that was a good one E* –

          Bob – maybe he meant in the end – we are to be
          knowledgeable which means –

          well-informed, au fait, on the ball, conversant, familiar, informed, educated, erudite, expert, experienced, clued-up, aware, appreciative, brilliant, conscious, discerning, insightful, intelligent, learned, perceptive, sensible, smart, sophisticated, well-rounded, wise, abreast, acquainted, alert, apprised, au courant, brainy, bright, clever, cognizant, in the know, knowing, lettered, omniscient, plugged in, posted, prescient, privy, quick-witted, sagacious, sage, savvy, scholarly, sharp, sophic, tuned-in, understanding, versed, with-it

          Personally I like plugged in, tuned-in and turned on.

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          • Inthechase, “I’ll have what your having.” please plug me in to your charge receptacle. I’m coveting your razor sharp mind and its free flowing river teaming with a veritable effervesant variety of vibrant, vast, vital and voluminous vocabulary!

            you have a seriously great memory for vocabulary!

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          • Hey Deb- I was starting to worry about you, where ya been?

            Yeah Google is great, til the bill comes. Some of those words inthechaseto and Lia used are upwards of a hundred bucks apiece!

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      • Bob and inthechaseto – And all you Chasers can just leave your motorized vehicles at home,…even if it IS “too far to walk” to “put in below the home of Brown”:

        earthjustice.org/news/press/1999/unregulated-off-road-vehicle-use-hammering-grizzly-habitat-on-gallatin-national-forest

        According to U.S. Forest Service reports, 75% of all Gallatin National Forest trails and 91% of forest trails outside of designated Wilderness are currently open to some form of motorized use. Likewise, the Gallatin contains 14% (or roughly 1 million acres) of all occupied grizzly bear habitat in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem; this is the second highest habitat acreage of any national forest in the ecosystem. Undoubtedly, the recent astronomical increase in motorized access on the forest has significant, continual adverse impacts on terrestrial species like grizzly bears and elk that depend upon secure habitat free from human impacts.

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          • inthechaseto – To answer your question,…I found this reference,…in the book I just finished by Timothy Egan, “Lasso the Wind”:

            “..But there is no place in the lower 48 that is more than twenty-five miles from a road. When I tell this to my brothers, they don’t believe me. I had read this in “Sports Afield”, a magazine that is full of advertisements for gear to keep you comfortable while preying on fish and game.”

            Not good news for the Grizz. Timothy Egan was backpacking and fly fishing in the Bitterroot Mountains of Idaho when he wrote that (where Lewis and Clark almost starved to death). Have you heard that they are considering re-introducing the Grizz to that area?

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        • E* you make a great case for GNF being hoB. If only FF hadn’t ruined by saying,…if I told you what hoB was you go right to it. (Paraphrased)
          Just A few too many acres.

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  48. I’m thinking like an architect on put in below the home. Toss out Brown, and include any home, of anyone. Below a home is a basement, or foundation usually made of concrete or stone.

    With that in mind add to it “hear me all listen good” a hint to yelling.
    Yellingstone.

    Then, I looked at “gone alone in there” and thought mono. And now using the name Brown, a shade of brown is tan.
    So I get monotan.

    I can’t find Yellingstone Monotan on a map though.

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    • Bob – Testing 1, 2, 3….one of my posts disappeared,…and then I recreated it,…but that one didn’t go through,…because the message said it had already been posted. I hope the odious practice of BANNING has not begun on this blog! I checked the address info, etc.,…and everything was correct.

      MIKE???? Are you there??? Do you have an aversion to GOLDFISH,…or DR. SEUSS??? 🙂

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      • Bob – I reworded my post,…and tried again,…I wonder what the correct term for a Dr. Seuss Goldfish phobia is? Here’s a little known good one:

        Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia – The Fear of Long Words

        And in case there is a day when you actually miss my posts,…you can listen to this ALL DAY:

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0I4mTEdAf8

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        • Bob – OK,…then,…the problem appears to be the Goldfish:

          Ichthyophobia is a variety of a specific phobia which is an intense and persistent fear of fish, described in Psychology: An International Perspective as an “unusual” specific phobia.[6] Both symptoms and remedies of ichthyophobia are common to most specific phobias.

          John B. Watson, a renowned name of behaviorism, describes an example, quoted in many books in psychology, of conditioned fear of a goldfish in an infant and a way of unconditioning of the fear by what is called now graduated exposure therapy:[7]

          Try another method. Let his brother, aged four, who has no fear of fish, come up to the bowl and put his hands in the bowl and catch the fish. No amount of watching a fearless child play with these harmless animals will remove the fear from the toddler. Try shaming him, making a scapegoat of him. Your attempts are equally futile. Let us try, however, this simple method. Place the child at meal time at one end of a table ten or twelve feet long, and move the fish bowl to the extreme other end of the table and cover it. Just as soon as the meal is placed before him remove the cover from the bowl. If disturbance occurs, extend your table and place the bowl still farther off, so far away that no disturbance occurs. Eating takes place normally, nor is digestion interfered with. Repeat the procedure on the next day, but move the bowl a little nearer. In four or five days the bowl can be brought right up to the food tray without causing the slightest disturbance. Then take a small glass dish, fill it with water and move the dish back, and at subsequent meal times bring it nearer and nearer to him. Again in three or four days the small glass dish can be put on the tray alongside of his milk. The old fear has been driven out by training, unconditioning has taken place, and this unconditioning is permanent.

          I hope that helps, Mike. 🙂

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  49. .
    Put in below the home of Brown

    PB – lead symbol, hermetic arts > lead to gold

    Following post mentions how, at this line, Forrest directs attention to a marking which is the literal combination of “AS” (above) and “SO” (below)

    ( and noting the “AS” , first word of the poem, and “SO” below it, which doubles his cipher direction to the symbol )

    tweleve.org/maranatha/17510-journey-1098.html#post559435

    astree

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  50. Millay’spoem – ugly houses

    on the stone marker – homely girl

    this is a good example of Fs clever use of tying words and ideas together to leave a trail to follow

    ugly houses, homely … see the connection

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    • Forrest’s quote of the homely girl phrase on the stone marker had several differences from the H.L. Mencken original (which I believe Forrest claimed was not the real original in his comments in response to the infamous Jason and the Argonauts thread), so either the quote that Forrest saw was different, or Forrest was paraphrasing, or he remembered it as he did, or he perhaps deliberately altered it. (However, he did say that those words were “burned in my brain”… )

      The part that he (may have) altered that I thought was interesting is that Mencken said “wink” and Forrest said “smile”. Either Forrest was making it slightly more family friendly, or he was trying to draw it out and say homely, ugly, wink, smile, get it? Perhaps “wink” was too hinty.

      Halogetter

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      • there is a difference between the Mencken quote and the one in TTOTC, but i dont mean the difference you referred to

        i never see anyone mention it. probably because they think it is insignificant, but i doubt that it is. especially when you pay attn to certain things stated repeatedly in key positions of the book.

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  51. 🙂 astree,

    12345
    1GALTI/J
    2NBCDE
    3FHKMO
    4PQRSU
    5VWXYZ

    JOE BROWN #381 TRAIL Home is in
    GALLATIN National Forest (1 land US)

    LOOKING 4 LEWIS & CLARK
    Relationship to “bio” Red Canyon, trip with Donnie (1 horse each).
    Construction type nickels (5×5)
    Insert GALLATIN (secret)
    INPUT the rest of Alpha-bet BELOW key word.
    Brown mark on pants, down FIRE escape, fire trail road.
    2 DNA hairs…90 chief medals.

    just some fun thoughts

    TGC&CS

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    • my research is leading me to the conclusion that the reason the place is special is not so much because of the physical terrain but because he found the perfect place where there are a string of clues and numbers taken from his life that point to this place

      it is the perfect cover. anything he put in his book that is an event form his life, people would think, how can that be a clue, its just something that happened and he couldn’t have control over what or when from years ago

      but he came up with an idea, a contiguous series of clues, and he found the perfect place where certain important events in his life can point to this place using several different stories of clues if you will

      there is a pattern of stories and numbers both, he had a rough draft and idea initially, and he has crafted it to almost perfection.

      hint of riches new and old, he has been able to establish multi layers. old and new coordinate hints, old and new stories, old and new hints as in some modern hints versus historical hints, and old moon and new moon.

      one of the consistent themes that goes through more than one clue pattern has to do with the dark of night.

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  52. .
    Does anyone have any info related to this puzzle that includes anything about a bio ?

    Reason I ask is because Forrest mentions the HOB in relation to a jok, but then also made reference to a “bio” and related to something like a double colophon, and ended the comment with in. (“Put “ in” below the home of Brown”). I know about the double colophon at the end of his book.

    Not sure what it has to do with any bio. I’m not too concerned, more curious, in the same way as when he references “One Land & Horse” in his discussion, I know it relates to the publishing of his book, but have not found that it directly relates to the location.

    Thanks, Merry Christmas all,
    astree

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    • Astree –

      You are kidding right? You want to know if there is anything to do with a bio? lol Try about 40 bios . What have you been chasing? Maybe he is writing notes to himself about his book. Put the bios in below brown – that’s just what I did.

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    • astree:
      .
      Does anyone have any info related to this puzzle that includes anything about a bio ?

      Reason I ask is because Forrest mentions the HOB in relation to a jok, but then also made reference to a “bio” and related to something like a double colophon, and ended the comment with in. (“Put “ in” below the home of Brown”).

      Thank-you for the responses. IWGOLF – I shall try to get take a look at the Playfair.

      I did find a reference online, which states:

      “At the bottom of the chest, in an olive jar, he placed a detailed autobiography, printed so small a reader will need a magnifying glass.”

      www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/mar/31/i-love-mysteries-says-man-claiming-hidden-gold/

      Still cannot connect the HOB and in, to his comment about the joke and the double-colophon-like mark.

      Note: article also says he placed some items in the chest 3 years ago, gives an approximate timeframe.

      astree

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      • 🙂 Astree,

        on colophons, i found that another meaning for the symbols in my dictionary (1976), in the back that list :
        QUANITITIES, UNITS, ETC,
        COLOPHON SYMBOL (not keyboard versatile to create such here )
        equals “longitude of the ascending node”.

        As far as joke, i am not sure to which you refer to, if it is to “joker” page 5, then that may refer to a 5 card hand in poker.
        So it seems you may be referring to beginning and ending.

        I was simply approaching poem line as:

        Brown a person & a place & a number

        put in as the same as input, the remaining unused alphabet letters

        home = as in KEY word, to 1st start to populate alphabet
        code box
        and that one has to name where is the home of Joe.
        so i used Gallatin as the KEY word.

        below as in the rest of alphabet is under the starting keyword.

        Populating the code box
        1st Keyword or short phrase, rule no repeat letters.
        Next the rest of unused alphabet letters in alphabetical order.

        As far as Colophon symbol longitude as in columns
        and latitude as in rows.

        The above connects “Brown” / Gallatin National Forest
        start population in code box with home of Brown / Gallatin
        below, as Gallatin/Galti is top row, populating the rest of code box
        put in, as fill in, or input with alphabet unused letters in order.
        This connects put in below, with… brown home, and can relate to joker in 5 card poker hand, as far as connecting this to colophon, longitude as vertical line/ column.

        Don’t know if this helps Astree, overall just using poem description as a way to construct code box with Key word.

        🙂 TG&CS
        Happy Holidays 2 ALL!

        ps, magnifying glass, sherlock holmes deductive reasoning , evidence to reach logically Certaint conclusion. Start by Following the spark…of a match strike blaze fire small details visible or not.
        In 1 of the video’s ff talks about possibly writing a book about a murder in Taos.

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          • 🙂 JJ,
            A little further south perhaps say Santa (today is his day) Fx,
            wearing a little silver 22 bead bracelot, lol
            :)TGC&CS

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        • IWGOLF,

          As usual, thank-you for your detailed remarks.

          Colophon – also understanding the omega as used for electrical resistance, and a variety of other applications ( ascending node a personal favorite ).

          The double colophon and HOB as jok were part of a coded reference he made, part of what I’m working. Have uncovered HOB at several cod levels, but will also keep your suggestions in mind – he often uses multiple meanings. (thank-you).

          Really like the idea of spark, if I recall he mentions flame, so I am going to try to see where that goes. As shown previously, Fibonacci yields some fairly precise and direct results, but more a curiousity than helpful to main pursuit. I am going to try to look at it through the Fairplay as well – have some ideas.

          Merry Christmas, IWGOLF,
          astree

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          • 🙂 Astree,

            page 129 TTOTC row 15
            “It was a perfect match of mind and moment. Ha,” aha moment.
            page 131 TTOTC 2nd paragraph last word “impossible.” rule out what is impossible, what’s only left is possible.
            TTOTC front cover dust jacket “But it takes mettle enough to strike the trail,” follow the evidence trail…cause evidence “speaks”
            poem line # 20 “So hear me all and listen good,”

            :)TGC&CS

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          • :).

            Error in my post,
            page 131 TTOTC 2nd paragraph
            1st sentence
            last word “impossible”.

            In Edit didn’t seem to take correction of my missing : 1st sentence

            :)TGC&CS

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        • IWGOLF:
          Astree,

          on colophons, i found that another meaning for the symbols in my dictionary (1976), in the back that list :
          QUANITITIES, UNITS, ETC,

          “As I have gone alone in there…”

          As previously mentioned, and a comment with no mask –

          the AS is a troy pound of GOLD

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